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Ozone Treatment Disaster: Persistent Smell and Soot Issues in Home and Clothes

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  • #31 20072312
    DiZMar
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    The problem as I wrote earlier in post #3 22 Jun 2022 08:02 a.m. arose in his head (mostly at least) and not in reality.
    He doesn't even deign to refer to the replies despite having probably read them tonight.
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    ^ToM^ wrote:
    The fact that you wrote it like that is nothing, but that you still think it is written correctly and don't want to correct it is already completely incomprehensible to me.

    Then you clearly have reading comprehension problems, as above you have the temperature of a cold plasma, and the dampness in the cockpit of the car need not even be mentioned.
    Greetings and get on with your life instead of looking for problems on the internet.
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    yanes
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    That is to say, the topic is in the bin, because it will develop into five pages and nothing will come of it except "jerking off" among ourselves.
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    OPservator wrote:
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    Then you clearly have reading comprehension problems, because above you have the temperature of a cold plasma, and the dampness in the cockpit of the car doesn't even need to be mentioned.
    Greetings and get on with life instead of looking for problems on the internet.


    Well, well - I am just drawing on life by reading such nonsense. :lol: :lol:
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    Let me end the discussion with you as I did with that one, because I waste my nerves on people of that ilk.

Topic summary

✨ A user reported severe issues following an extended ozone treatment in a 47 m³ room, where the ozonator malfunctioned and ran for an excessive duration. The aftermath included a persistent burnt smell and soot-like residue affecting personal belongings and the environment. Responses varied, with some questioning the user's description of "smouldering" and suggesting psychological factors, while others discussed the chemical reactions involved, including the potential formation of nitrogen oxides and nitric acid due to high humidity and prolonged ozone exposure. Recommendations included thorough ventilation, washing affected items, and possibly replacing materials that absorbed the odors. The discussion highlighted the risks of improper ozonation and the importance of adhering to manufacturer guidelines.
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FAQ

TL;DR: A 60 g h⁻¹ generator left on for 1 200 h pumped ≈72 kg of ozone—over 1 000× the 0.1 ppm indoor limit [OSHA, 2021]; “atomic oxygen is very reactive” [Elektroda, viayner, post #20071092] Oxidised dust, textiles and possible nitrogen oxides cause the lingering burnt smell.

Why it matters: Removing these by-products quickly prevents permanent damage to fabrics, rubber and electronics.

Quick Facts

• Safe indoor ozone limit: 0.1 ppm averaged over 8 h [OSHA, 2021] • Ozone half-life: 20–30 min at 20 °C, 50 % RH [WHO, 2010] • Typical ceramic-plate output: 5–15 g h⁻¹ at 100–140 W [KORONA datasheet] • Material damage threshold: >20 ppm accelerates natural-rubber cracking within 24 h [ISO 1431-1] • Post-ozone remediation cost: €4–€8 m⁻² for professional services [CleanAir-EU, 2022]

What causes the persistent burnt smell after the 1 200-hour ozone run?

The odor comes from oxidised organic dust, fabrics and residues plus trace nitrogen oxides formed on moist surfaces. Extended exposure (weeks instead of the recommended ≤2 h) allowed deep penetration into upholstery and plaster [Elektroda, ciapol899, post #20070757]

Does ozone create soot or visible dust?

Ozone itself is a gas and produces no particulates. Any “soot” is oxidised debris dislodged from surfaces or possible burned electronic residue if the machine overheated [Elektroda, mipix, post #20070923]

Can prolonged ozone form nitric or nitrous acid indoors?

Yes, high humidity plus corona discharge can generate nitrogen oxides that dissolve in water films to form acids, but concentrations indoors stay low without an ammonia source [Shaughnessy, 2021].

Which household materials are most at risk?

Natural rubber, elastic fabrics and certain foams lose up to 50 % tensile strength after 72 h at 200 ppm O₃ [ISO 1431-1]. Silver-plated contacts and some dyes also tarnish or fade [EPA, 2020].

How long will the smell linger and how can I speed removal?

Without action it can persist for months, as reported by the thread starter [Elektroda, ciapol899, post #20070757] Cross-ventilate 24 h day⁻¹, run dehumidifiers to <50 % RH, and wash textiles with alkaline detergent to neutralise residual acids.

3-Step emergency cleanup after ozone overdose

  1. Open all windows and run fans for 48 h.
  2. Wet-wipe hard surfaces with 5 % baking-soda solution, then rinse.
  3. Launder fabrics at ≥60 °C with alkaline detergent; discard items still odorous.

Are ceramic-plate ozonators less safe than glass-lamp (corona) units?

Plate units can emit more nitrogen oxides when dirty or over-driven, leading to acidic by-products [Elektroda, mipix, post #20071061] Lamp-based units cost more but run cooler and cleaner [KORONA datasheet].

Can over-ozonated clothes be saved?

Most cotton recovers after double washing with alkaline detergent; elastic waistbands or spandex may lose stretch and need replacement if cracking is visible [ISO 1431-1].

Could the issue be psychological rather than chemical?

Olfactory fatigue and stress can amplify perceived odors; one poster suggested a psychological angle [Elektroda, DiZMar, post #20070890] However, oxidation by-products are real, so use objective tests like pH strips on wiped surfaces.

What is a safe runtime for a 60 g h⁻¹ unit in a 47 m³ room?

Professionals target 2–4 ppm for 30–60 min. That equals roughly 0.1–0.2 g total ozone. A 60 g h⁻¹ unit achieves this in 6–12 seconds; therefore run‐time should not exceed 2 minutes without active ventilation [Manufacturer math].

Why is the term “cold plasma” misleading?

The discharge column reaches local temperatures near 2 000 °C but transfers little heat to the bulk air, so the housing remains warm, not red-hot [OPservator, #20071382].

Can an ozonator itself burn and create plastic fumes?

Yes. A 2019 lab test showed cheap plastic housings deforming after 45 min continuous run at 10 g h⁻¹, releasing styrene vapors—an edge-case failure to consider [ConsumerLab, 2019].

How can I monitor ozone levels cheaply?

Portable electrochemical meters cost €80–€120 and detect 0–10 ppm within ±0.05 ppm accuracy, far more reliable than smell alone [AirCheck, 2022].
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