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Best SIM Card Options for Alarm Control Panel: Play Odnowa & Other Current Offers

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  • #61 20857912
    ssuszczynski
    Level 1  

    I just bought a Virgin SIM card for 5 zł, registered it. I topped up for 30 zł and started a package mini 3 zł, there is 300 MB of Internet, I think 30 text messages and 30 minutes for calls. This is probably enough to osblug Satel.

    I hope it will be ok.
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  • #62 20857995
    Robinson74

    Level 16  
    ssuszczynski , and what validity period for outgoing calls?
  • #63 20858606
    dawidedziu
    Industrial cameras specialist
    Robinson74 wrote:
    and what is the validity period for outgoing calls?

    I have such a card inserted in the GPS, and it serves me only to check(slow internet and the ability to call the device) its given position in the application.
    Startup card for 5zł activated in January this year, activated Mini3 package once and to this day it works as it should.
    Helpful post? Buy me a coffee.
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  • #64 21008465
    -goose-
    Level 13  
    Hello
    Gentlemen, what is the most profitable today? It is important to make outgoing calls as long as possible
    Orange free? has anything changed?
    Regards
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  • #65 21008469
    dragon79
    Level 13  
    I still use Plush with a year of account validity, and I also have a year of Tidal for free on this card. The last top-up in January is PLN 10, and the previous top-up in August is also PLN 10. My GSM is a backup, the main communication is via ETHM, so most of the money is spent on SMS, which I send to my phone.
  • #66 21164729
    11grzech
    Level 11  
    What about the fee for "inactivity on the account" because "keeping the number in the network"? 5zł a month
    10 zł top-up for 6 months rather not enough.
  • #67 21164738
    Marianowy1987
    Level 8  
    I have been using play for a few years now. 50 zl a year is the total cost associated with the internet and sms package. The PBX with normal use, i.e. 2 times a day via applications, downloads about 200 mb of internet. Text messages are a matter of individual what comes and to whom and the number of numbers.
    Once there was a problem with sending a message in a package, as it turned out viking mobile is also play, so the staff topped up the account with PLN 20 and activated a sms package to play. I have not even paid for text messages for two months.
  • #68 21164748
    dragon79
    Level 13  
    >>21164729 .
    If this question is for me, I will answer: as I have sms forwarding enabled to my phone number for security purposes, every time I am reminded of inactivity, an sms is sent and therefore there is activity on my account and the inactivity fee is not charged :) .
  • #69 21168305
    11grzech
    Level 11  
    That's right, it was a question for you, dragon79 😉 thanks for the reply (I haven't grasped writing on my phone yet)

    Added after 3 [minutes]:

    Currently you have to spend £5 per month or they will charge the £5 themselves
    Straight to the Card:
    ,, From 07.02.2023 the fee for keeping your number on the network is PLN 5.

    The number maintenance fee will be charged 30 days (i.e. 720 hours) after the last expenditure on the Card Subscriber's account, if the total expenditure does not exceed PLN 5 during these 30 days (720 hours).
    Maybe it is different in the starters you used to buy.
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  • #70 21168378
    dragon79
    Level 13  
    >>21168305 .
    I write as it is. In January I paid £10 to extend my account for a year, then topped up in May with £10 and I still have over £9 from that.
    I attach screenshots from the app.
    Screenshot of an app showing payment history and phone usage. Screenshot from an app showing account balance of 9.63 PLN and validity until January 13, 2025. Screenshot from an app showing the payment history with completed transactions for May, June, and July 2024. None of the package renewals incurred costs. Screenshot from an app showing the user's account top-up history for August 2023, January 2024, and May 2024.
  • #71 21168412
    bhtom
    Level 38  
    Welcome,

    I don't understand something... What is the problem of spending 5 PLN per month for a card that guards our possessions? And here it's just cheaper, longer, and preferably for zero.... ;)

    Regards.
  • #72 21168450
    Marianowy1987
    Level 8  
    bhtom wrote:
    What's the problem of spending 5 PLN a month on a card that guards our possessions? And here it's only cheaper, longer, and preferably for zero...


    Don't forget what country you live in and the mentality of the people.

    In the same way it is with those who pay insurance on their house and there are those who will pay as long as they manage to raise a collection to renovate what is left.

    On the one hand, having a new playground every 2 months goes about 10zł, on the other hand I have a gazebo in the countryside, where 5zł is enough for a year and in case of a break-in they can steal a rake, because the siren has already been stolen.
  • #73 21168484
    dragon79
    Level 13  
    >>21168412 .
    It's called saving money. Why overpay if functionality is provided?
    In my case, ETHM is the main connection and GSM is the back-up connection so the less it costs to stay active the better for me. But don't worry, I don't understand a lot of things that are happening in this country lately either....

    Added after 7 [minutes]:

    Marianowy1987 wrote:
    In the same way it is with those who pay insurance on the house and there are those who will pay as long as they manage to raise a collection to renovate what is left.

    In my opinion, the comparison is misplaced....
  • #74 21168665
    bhtom
    Level 38  
    Welcome,

    dragon79 wrote:
    Under me ETHM is the main connection,
    .

    That sounds cool... ;) But on the other hand, looking at the installation of cables/fibre cables bringing internet to houses or flats, it can take no more than a minute for such a link to fail.... All in all GSM can also be disrupted, so there is no reliable notification....

    Regards.
  • #75 21170120
    Robinson74

    Level 16  
    dragon79 wrote:
    .
    If this question is for me, I will answer: in connection with the fact that I have enabled sms forwarding to my phone number for security reasons, every time I am reminded of inactivity, an sms is sent and thus there is activity on my account and the inactivity fee is not charged :)
    .
    So the switchboard has this functionality to forward all received SMS?
  • #76 21170154
    dragon79
    Level 13  
    >>21170120 .
    Yes, or to be more precise, this is the functionality of the INT-GSM LTE module.
    INT-GSM functions --> SMS notification / CLIP control --> SMS>>.
    From the INT-GSM LTE module manual: "SMS>> - if the option is enabled, unknown SMS messages received by the module (e.g. information received from the mobile network operator) are sent to the given telephone number."
  • #77 21180641
    michalgajdacreditia
    Level 2  
    Dragon79, can you help figure this out? I'm completely green at this and I'll be having one installed on Friday and don't know what, where to buy and how to ogle it 😑.
  • #78 21181276
    dragon79
    Level 13  
    >>21180641 .
    I'm not an installer, but I have configured the PBX myself based on the manufacturer's materials, so if you're green, I'd recommend reading the instructions available on the Satel portal, or alternatively having someone who does it professionally do the configuration.

    https://www.satel.pl/produkty/komunikacja-i-powiadamianie/moduly-gsm-lte/int-gsm-lte/
    INT-GSM LTE https://www.satel.pl/api/download/manuals/10544

    https://www.satel.pl/produkty/sswin/integra/plyty-glowne-integra/integra-128-plus/
    Integra Plus programming https://support.satel.pl/download/manual/10800
  • #79 21181310
    michalgajdacreditia
    Level 2  
    I was referring here to the SIM card. I don't know which one would be best. The person setting up the alarm recommended finding one that has internet and SMS, and I've been reading what you guys have, and I'm wondering what packages you bought on these starters etc.
  • #81 21181396
    michalgajdacreditia
    Level 2  
    Thanks a lot, I've seen it, but I won't do it , "legally", because I'll go with the sack 😅 I've decided on Play from scratch. £5 100 SMS and £5 1 GB. We'll see how much Satel will get the internet out of it and if it's enough.
  • #82 21310859
    bachin
    Level 18  
    michalgajdacreditia wrote:
    Thanks a lot, I've seen it, but I won't do it , "legally", because I'll go with the bags 😅 I've decided on Play from scratch. £5 100 SMS and £5 1 GB. We'll see how much Satel will get internet out of it and if it's enough.


    PLAY from new has one major drawback. I just called PLAY yesterday and found out that they switched off the number in September because they ran out of money on it. I can't reactivate the number because they can't put money on the number because it doesn't exist. They don't want to re-activate the SIM because they hide behind procedures ("what a crock" - hehehehehehe), and on the phone it's "looking for a network". They don't inform you that they are switching off, even though they have an email and a second number in the system. Not everyone has the time to think whether they will switch off the number and check to top up 5-10zł every month. You have to log in to the bank and perform a top-up from your finger, because you cannot transfer money to the number by automatic transfer.
    So that PLAY from the beginning is a k...a, like most offers of this type.
    Maybe someone will wrestle the provider so that you can buy a card for a year or two, and preferably have a text message coming to another phone that the cash is gone and that they will switch it off.
    Interestingly, PLAY's offer is misleading with 'No expiry date' as the date is there because they have switched off. NJU does the same, informing that the money paid in is valid "for ever", but in the small print you can read that if you do not pay 10-30 zlotys every month, the money and the number will be gone (I have already complained about this once). It's true that you can keep track of incoming texts every three months and write back YES, but if your card is in alarm it's simpler to knock yourself on the head.
    It's also true that most offers are unreadable. Bonuses, srusy, farting, unlimited, and when it comes to it, it turns out that the number is switched off, because .... you have to study all the provisions of the regulations (as if someone had nothing else to do and liked to read these writings :P ).
  • #83 21311020
    bhtom
    Level 38  
    Welcome,

    bachin wrote:
    You need to log in to the bank, make a top-up with your finger, because with an automatic transfer to the number you will not do.


    Not true. As a rule, you can activate a cyclic phone top-up in any banking app.

    bachin wrote:
    Play's offer is misleading with the wording "No expiry date", as the date is there because they switched it off.
    .

    Just top up once a month for 5 zeta 😀.

    Greetings.
  • #84 21311076
    bachin
    Level 18  
    bhtom wrote:
    Hello,

    bachin wrote:
    You need to log in to the bank, make a top-up with your finger, because with the automatic transfer to the number you will not do.
    .

    Not true. As a rule, you can activate a cyclic phone top-up in any banking app.


    bachin wrote:
    Play's offer is misleading with the wording "No expiry date", as the date is there because they switched it off.
    .

    Just top up once a month for 5 zeta 😀


    Greetings.


    I have accounts with two banks and no bank allows you to automatically top up your prepaid phone number for 5-10 zeta every month. You always have to enter the number, give the operator etc and that's why I got caught switching off my account and sim, because I forgot that the "No expiry date" offer is just a scam. So don't mislead people.

    Also, if the switchboard doesn't alert, it doesn't send a text message, and if it does, the cash will run out sooner. That is to say, once it will be too much and the second time - as in my case - they will turn off the number, even though the offer is "No expiry date". You can check your account balance every day, install the PLAY app, paint the lawn green with paint, stroke the flowers in the garden, put paper clips in a row on your desk, but the question is why and is there time for it? :D ))))
    As I wrote the offer is not fit for alarm because it misleads the customer ("No expiry date") and requires constant checking of the account balance, because they will turn the number off, not say they have turned it off and say it can't be turned on. The problem is not even that they run out of cash, but that they disable permanently, because if the cash ran out and the account was active and could be topped up, the topic is non-existent. I forgot, sent 10 zeta and it works again.
    In PLAY from the beginning the lady says that such are their procedures and has the customer in four letters. That's why I personally advise against PLAY afresh to the alarm, because it's just a plain sneeze. This is an offer for a pensioner who has nothing to do and every morning after watering the flowers will check how much is left in his account. For an alarm you need something less coarse, something you won't have to think about and remember.
  • #85 21311100
    alster1
    CCTV and Stationary Alarms specialist
    bachin wrote:
    no bank allows you to auto-complete your prepaid phone number for 5-10 zeta every month. You always have to enter the number, give the operator etc. and that's why I got caught switching off my account and sim because I forgot
    .
    And what's the problem of topping up once every few months for e.g. 50p?
    bachin wrote:
    Also, if the switchboard doesn't alert, it doesn't send an sms, and if it does, the cash will run out sooner
    .
    Just set up a test sms transmission once a month.
    bachin wrote:
    You can check your account balance every day, install the PLAY app, paint the lawn green, stroke the flowers in the garden, line up the paper clips on your desk, just the question is why and is there time for that?

    Most of today's alarms are able to monitor the card balance and inform the user.
    bachin wrote:
    Just yesterday I called PLAY and it turned out that they switched off the number in September because they ran out of money on it.

    So the money ran out 2 months ago and you weren't aware of it? Then why the hell is there such a notification that has not worked for 2 months. You have a badly configured system and you are pouring out your grievances to the operator because you did not bother to read the terms of service.
    bachin wrote:
    you should have studied all the provisions of the terms and conditions (as if someone had nothing else to do and liked to read these writings ).


    Finally, Yes I use PLAY cards with the "From New" tariff in alarm systems and for me it works.
  • #86 21311145
    bachin
    Level 18  
    alster1 wrote:
    bachin wrote:
    no bank allows you to auto-refill your prepaid phone number for 5-10 zeta every month. You always have to enter the number, give the operator etc and that's why I got caught switching off my account and sim because I forgot
    .
    And what's the problem of topping up once every few months for e.g. 50p?
    bachin wrote:
    Also, if the switchboard doesn't alert, it doesn't send an sms, and if it does, the cash will run out sooner
    .
    Just set up a test sms transmission once a month.
    bachin wrote:
    You can check your account balance every day, install the PLAY app, paint the lawn green, stroke the flowers in the garden, line up the paper clips on your desk, just the question is why and is there time for that?

    Most of today's alarms are able to monitor the card balance and inform the user.
    bachin wrote:
    Just yesterday I called PLAY and it turned out that they switched off the number in September because it had run out of cash.

    So the money ran out 2 months ago and you weren't aware of it? Then why the hell is there such a notification that hasn't worked for 2 months. You have a badly configured system and you pour out your grievances on the operator because you did not bother to read the terms of service.
    bachin wrote:
    you should have studied all the provisions of the terms and conditions (as if someone had nothing else to do and liked reading these excuses ).


    Finally, Yes I use PLAY cards with the tariff "From New" in alarm systems and for me it works.



    "So the buck ran out two months ago and you weren't aware of it? Then why the hell is there even such a notification that 2 months out." that question is for PLAY, not me, and I'm not about to spend a lot of money upgrading the alert because you prefer to PALY from scratch.
    As I wrote above, a quagmire and a metre of muck, because they don't take into account that someone may not feel like constantly checking whether there is a till or not, because they will switch off.
    Request, read again above, but with understanding. :P .
    I'm thinking of subscribing for 10 zeta every month, but it definitely won't be PLAY, after the number they pulled off recently.
  • #87 21311187
    alster1
    CCTV and Stationary Alarms specialist
    bachin wrote:
    "So the checkout ran out 2 months ago and you weren't aware of it? Then why the hell is there even such a notification that 2 months out." this question is for PLAY, not me
    .
    This question is most definitely for you, it's your alarm system and at least in theory it's supposed to protect your property and from what you write you have no control over it.
    You write about a subscription, but what if the GSM module in your system fails? Even a subscription will not help you, you still have no control over it.
    bachin wrote:
    I am not going to spend a lot of money on upgrading the alarm
    .
    There is no need, 99% of systems even from the 2000's allow you to send a test transmission at any frequency, If I get a test SMS once a week or month then at least I know the card is working and the system is alive.
    bachin wrote:
    As I wrote above, it's a crock and a meter of muck, because they don't take into account the fact that someone might not feel like constantly checking whether there's cash or not, because they'll turn it off.
    .
    After all, you didn't have to decide on such an offer, you continue to pour out your grievances on the operator because you didn't read the terms and conditions.
  • #88 21311251
    bhtom
    Level 38  
    Welcome,

    bachin wrote:
    So don't mislead people.


    I am not misleading anyone, I wrote after all:

    bhtom wrote:
    As a rule in any banking application
    .

    My bank offers such a service ;) .

    bachin wrote:
    Also, if the switchboard does not alert, it does not send a text message
    .

    Simply set up a daily sms test transmission and then it is all clear whether the alarm notification is 'live'.

    bachin wrote:
    As I wrote, the offer is not suitable for alarms, as it misleads the customer ("No expiry date") and requires constant checking of the account balance
    .

    It is suitable, you just have to know how to use it....
    Besides, the Operator has the right to suspend the service at any time because it is not an offer for "GSM module" type devices.

    Greetings.
  • #89 21311321
    bachin
    Level 18  
    bhtom wrote:
    Hello,

    bachin wrote:
    Therefore, do not mislead people.


    I am not misleading anyone, I wrote after all:

    bhtom wrote:
    As a rule, in any banking application


    My bank offers such a service ;) .

    bachin wrote:
    Also, if the PBX does not alert, it does not send a text message
    .

    Simply set up a daily sms test transmission and then it is all clear whether the alarm notification is 'alive'.

    bachin wrote:
    As I wrote the offer is not suitable for alarms, because it misleads the customer ("No expiry date") and requires constant checking of the account balance
    .

    It is suitable, you just have to know how to use it....
    Besides, the Operator has the right to suspend the service at any time because it is not an offer for "GSM module" type devices.

    Greetings.


    That's right, as you water your flowers every morning in retirement and filch your neighbour to see if she's left for work, and you can check every day to see if there's any cash in the number's account by chance. You can also call the number every day, go down to the basement and take out the card, clean it, photograph it because it may have been damaged, etc. You can also write that this kind of PLAY solution is good and suitable, and the problem is in the user, because he should know that when he buys something, it may not work. That is why the user should keep checking, after all, there is nothing else to do except to check whether the test sms arrived and the switchboard is not signalling that the operator has switched off the card, etc. etc. You seriously, seriously, because we are reaching absurdity here - heheheheheh.
    More seriously, because of such a j.v. described solution in my head I already have several scenarios of future big problems (that's why I won't buy it anymore) and that's the only reason I won't describe them, not to give a tutorial for potential thieves. What I want to say is that I would steer clear of such an installer, well unless they have made a deal and the house is specifically insured. :P .

    Added after 9 [minutes]:

    alster1 wrote:
    bachin wrote:
    "So the cash ran out 2 months ago and you weren't aware of it? Then why the hell is there even such a notification that 2 months out." this question is to PLAY, not to me
    .
    This question is most definitely for you, it's your alarm system and at least in theory it's supposed to protect your property and from what you write you have no control over it.
    You write about a subscription, but what if the GSM module in your system fails? Even a subscription will not help you, you still have no control over it.
    bachin wrote:
    I am not going to spend a lot of money on upgrading the alarm8cbee958 .
    There is no need, 99% of systems even from the 2000's allow you to send a test transmission at any frequency, If I get a test SMS once a week or month then at least I know the card is working and the system is alive.
    bachin wrote:
    As I wrote above, it's a muck and a meter of muck, because they don't take into account the fact that someone may not feel like constantly checking whether there is a cash or not, because they will turn it off.

    After all, you didn't have to decide on such an offer, you continue to air your grievances against the operator because you didn't read the terms of the contract.


    There could also be a blizzard, an earthquake and the GSM module will collapse.
    Where did you get that herb? :P .
    On a more serious note, as much as I can text test the module, but modules don't go down that often because it's not the power thyristor, but the operator who's banging the crap out of it.
    If you read with comprehension, you would know that the topic is about the PLAY service, which sucks, not about the module, and it's not about any "regrets", but about stating that it's completely unsuitable for the alarm and generates problems. My module has a slot for two cards. The problem is that two are switched off for reasons such as these, because sometimes people work hard and don't have time to play around with testing the operator's free americana. It simply should be organised differently, it just doesn't get through to the operator's decision makers because they are impregnated including some on this forum. It would be enough to add a few minor changes and sell a not expensive service of just a sim card for the alarm. Everyone would benefit. The user who can be sure that no one will cheat him, the operator who will make money and the network will not be burdened, because there is a shortage of such sim cards on the market, but for this you need to have a brain. That's why a 10 zeta subscription should get the job done, because then you can set up a cyclical transfer rather than manually sending a top-up each time. Besides, there will be a substantial call and sms limit and you can send a daily test sms for no min. 10gr a piece (only question is why and who will check it). With a subscription you also have the certainty that the operator won't switch off the card because you've run out of money, because it will always be cyclically paid.
    If I find something, I'll send it, because for now I'm looking for what to recommend here, but for 1000% definitely not PLAY from scratch, because it to the alarm is a shambles and completely unsuitable, does not work. :) You can buy it for your grandfather, or for your child, but not for the alarm, as the operator does such numbers. numbers.

    Moderated By ArturAVS:

    Why the irony.
    Disseminate content that is ironic, mocking or malicious, which is disrespectful to other Users or third parties.

    .
  • #90 21311390
    bhtom
    Level 38  
    Welcome,

    bachin wrote:
    With a subscription, you also have the assurance that the operator will not switch off the card because you run out of money, because it will always be cyclically paid.


    Until you use a telemetry card, you don't have that certainty, even with a subscription offer.... 😀

    bachin wrote:
    My module has a slot for two cards. The problem is that two have switched off for reasons j.w.
    .

    You begrudge the cash for paid test text messages, and you write that you had two cards in the module.... 😂
    Even if you did, they should be different operators to rule out the above scenarios....

    bachin wrote:
    every morning on retirement


    I'm still a long way from retirement, but I still have time to regularly check my systems and their notification channels.... 😀

    Regards.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the best SIM card options for alarm control panels, particularly focusing on the Play Odnowa offer and other current alternatives. Users share insights on various prepaid SIM cards, highlighting the advantages and disadvantages of options from Orange, Nju Mobile, Virgin Mobile, and Plus. Key considerations include data packages, SMS costs, account management, and the necessity of maintaining active usage to avoid inactivity fees. The Play Odnowa plan is noted for its low monthly cost but requires regular top-ups to prevent additional charges. Users also discuss the importance of selecting SIM cards that are compatible with M2M devices, as some operators may block cards used in such applications. Overall, the conversation emphasizes the need for reliable connectivity and cost-effectiveness in managing alarm systems.
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