Dell Wyse 5070 terminal - soldering the PCIe slot and WiFi to 2xSATA M.2 adapter

Hello, has anyone tried to mod this terminal?

I'm talking about two topics regarding the standard version of this device.

Soldering the PCIE slot, did it work?

Adding an adapter instead of a WiFi card

- 2xSata M.2 (A+E - Key) to SATA adapter


I'm curious because the equipment seems to be a good alternative to a home NAS, but the problem is the allocation of SATA disks to RAID.


Regards

I did some research, measured it and in short it looks like this:
- on pads where there should be 12V, there is 19.5V,
- someone on the servethehome forum wrote in the thread about 5070 on page 22 that he tried to solder the socket, but when removing the board he broke some resistors and capacitors located on the 2nd side of the motherboard, which ended up bricking the board,
- the appropriate change in voltage (at least that's what it looks like) is provided by the angular cover in the extended version, which has an additional graphic attached to it,
- the overlay can be found under the name "PCIe Module I/O Daughter Board FN9WT w/ Bracket HT7FC for Dell Wyse 5070",
- the shade will not fit this overlay in a closed housing.

If someone has the equipment, patience and a hint of gambling, soldering the connector is possible.
The cost of the overlay from Dell is about PLN 200 - 20 (assuming that someone doesn't mind the open side).
Alternatively, I am inclined to buy a regular PCIe x4 riser and cut the 12V line, where I would reduce the voltage from the current 19V to 12V.
There is no guarantee that this solution will work properly, but I don't see any other option if someone wants to fit the modem into the housing.

As for the WiFi adapter, there is a Polish video about this model on YouTube and in one of the comments you can find the answer from the author of the video:
"yes, you can, it works without any problem, and the system even starts from the SATA disk connected by this card.
I bought mine on ali from "ANAN FANG Store", it's called "M2 to SATA3.0 A E WIFI M.2 Expansion Card Key to SATA Hard Drive Adapter Card without Driver Installation"

Hello, yes, that's right, I received this adapter yesterday and I'll be testing it after commissioning soon.

Currently, this is the cheapest option for fashioning.

On the Polish Internet you can find information that Wyse 5070 starts and runs on a 12V power supply (after a slight modification related to the addition of DS2501). So there is a chance that after changing the power supply, the standard 12V will appear on the PCIe port and there will be no need for an adapter.
But this is just a hypothesis

AoT_Hunter_PL wrote:

Hello, yes, that's right, I received this adapter yesterday and I'll be testing it after commissioning soon.
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Hello!
I'm waiting for the test.

I haven't done any special tests yet, I don't have time at the moment.
Dry plugged in 1.8" SATA drive, detects, works

Hey, has anything happened on the topic?
I wanted to solder a PCIe 1x card and a riser (like for excavators) to a PCIe -> 4x SATA card, the power supply would be connected to the riser, so 19V would not be a problem. The question is, has anyone tested it? Are there any SMD components missing apart from PCIe?

Hello, I haven't tested anything on PCI, I connected to the WLAN port (M2.SATA) with an adapter and I have an adapter for 2x SATA.


Regards

only there is a maximum of 2 SATA, and I want at least 4

You need to look for an adapter for 4x SATA, combine it with USB 3.0 >> 4x SATA

Or mod this PCI slot or

finally buy a more expensive version already soldered and working

USB is out of the question, it's a pity because it would be nice equipment for us, and that leaves Asrock with J

Next thing is nice, it's just a matter of who has what requirements :)

I will put the final NAS but on 2x 2TB drives in raid

@error105 jak go masz, podłącz go pod zasilacz 12v i pomierz napięcia w "slocie"
12v pojawia się tylko w PCI-E więc przejście z 19 na 12v jest zrealizowane w "ramce", żeby obniżyć koszty.
Może też być tak, że z nie-dellowym zasilaczem nie daje obsługuje wcale PCIE i będzie potrzebny "oszukiwacz" z linka
Ktoś to musi zrobić pierwszy

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What about power supply? Dell Wyse 5070 Extended comes with 19.5 V 130 W PSU. It is generally an overkill, unless you put a full load on CPU, GPU and all ports available. I’ve been running my previous server directly from a 12 V buffer PSU, as it accepted a voltage between 8 and 19 V. It would be nice to use Dell Wyse in the same way.

I used an adjustable PSU to check the voltage thresholds (hysteresis). To my delight, it seems that Dell Wyse 5070 Extended does not require a voltage of 19.5 V to work or start.

Power on: 10.6V
Shutdown: 8.7V

Therefore, I’m going to use it directly with my 12V buffer PSU. Unfortunately, it is not that easy as it would seem. Dell involves a third wire in PSUs, which is dedicated for 1-Wire bus. It provides an identification of the PSU (serial number, wattage and other things). Without it, the operation of Wyse is limited (e.g. CPU is stuck at low frequency).

The identification IC is DS2501 or alike. The 90W versions are widely available on Aliexpress, but not 130W. I decided to extract it from the PSU that was included and create a custom PCB. The circuit consists of an identification IC (SMD), a Zener diode (12 V) and a resistor (130 Ω) .

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I would like to power the 5070 with 5*4.2V Li-ion, and the question is: will the computer withstand this 21V? [ it should , https://fmdx.pl/2022/06/dell-wyse-5070-home-server/ the author powers the 5070 22V].
The solution to "identifying" the Dell power supply are cables also available on Allegro, I bought it here: https://allegro.pl/oferta/kabel-wtyk-zasilacza-dell-7-4x5-0mm-pin-dioda-led-10019477094 With this I powered the Wyse 5070 with a 12V battery using the cable.
By the way, thanks for the info about the PCI-E voltage, I soldered the socket some time ago but fortunately I haven't tested it yet (there's not enough space in the thin one).

I measured the voltages of the PCI-e "slot" in Wyse5070, looking from the top of the board, the first pins are on the left, WITH 12V POWER, after turning on the PC:
side A[V]: 0/12/12/0/3.3/5/5/0/3.3/3.3/3.3
side B[V]:12/12/12/0/3.3/3.3/0/3.3/3.3/3.3/3.3
Does this look safe for testing with a PCI-e card?

Everything has already been said (in Chinese):
https://github.com/KCORES/KCORES-5070

Thanks for the input, we will verify it, the topic is under development and will definitely be discussed

Right, I should have written "told."
For me, the issue now is how to best use the pcie so that there are no bottlenecks and this probably fits into the "topic is a development"

Well, of course it is, so I don't see the point of closing the topic

Is there anyone who managed to solder PCIe?
I already have a SATA adapter with two 2TB drives, the only thing missing is a PCIe connector to add a network card of at least 2.5Gbps

If anyone is interested, this one works perfectly:
please search on Ali "2 to SATA3.0 A+E WIFI M.2 to SATA Hard Drive Adapter Card without driver installation"

The admin will soon delete your post for the links , but you're right, this type of converter also works for me.

Hello,
Let me add to the topic. I would like to purchase a DELL Wyse 3070 with a 65W power supply. I would like to power it with a 12V buffer power supply without losing performance. So I have to use DS2501. Is it enough to use DS2501 from this auction? https://tiny.pl/ck2hx (sorry for the link from AliExpress, but I don't know how else to present this product)
Does DS2501 require additional programming? Thank you in advance for your help.

However, your question does not fit the topic discussed here at all, and you are asking about a different model altogether.

The HP T610 SLIM version probably requires less modding. Below you have a photo of my NAS built from one terminal + a housing for such a terminal. The housings are fastened together with Velcro and can be separated. There is a PCIEe -> 6xSATA adapter inside. Currently, the second housing contains 5 SATA 2.5 1TB drives (I had these lying around). One more disk will fit in the case with the motherboard. I don`t remember if it was also in this additional one. The most fun was cramming it all into this additional housing.


The disadvantage of this HP is undoubtedly its weaker processor.

Hello, but the topic concerns Dell, not HP, Dell has other advantages in terms of performance and functionality, so it is a very good choice.

Hi.. just to give some report about this mod..

I followed Chinese Website guide ( I was unable to open all files but I figured out what is needed to be soldered on motherboard)

I did modification but without success about stepping down voltage.. everything is placed as explained and Maschine boots.

2 resistors and one relay .. but voltage on PCI slot is still 20 v ( adapter is 20 v)
It gave me idea to pull out PCI pins that conduct power and add ,,voltage step Buck '' in between to lower voltage to 12 v. (But I believe that this will take a lot of time )

I also have to report that I found none of points, that shows me 12 v on voltmeter
So I am not sure if that voltage even exists on this slim motherboard because none of components use 12 v to operate. Voltage on board is mostly about 1.4v 3.3v; 5.1v

Maybe something else is needed to be added on board but as I said I was not able to open all files.

aleksandarkomadina wrote:

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This gave me the idea to take out the PCI pins that carry power and add a ,,voltage step buck'' between them to bring the voltage down to 12 volts. (But I think that would take a lot of time).

I must also report that I have not found any of the points that show me 12 volts on the voltmeter

Earlier in the thread the measurements were taken on a 12 volt power supply. Have you checked on such a power supply?
On the original "frame" there are probably just voltage converters to 12 V and in the extended version you plug the card into the "frame", not into the slot directly.

>>21309871 Hi,
I just checked on power supply that is 19V.
I am definitely sure that if I use 12V charger I will get 12V on board.. On Chinese website they gave me explanation that 12V adapter is ,,MUST‚‚ for this to work.

Hello and how are the results with PCI ?

Hi .. sadly still haven't tested because I plan to make a clean setup. SMD components are soldered on the board but pci-e never tested since I never purchased a 12v charger. Setup currently using USB to sata setup and looks like this.
when I upgrade to pci-e I will definitely post here

aleksandarkomadina wrote:

Hi .. sadly still haven't tested because I plan to make a clean setup. SMD components are soldered on the board but pci-e never tested since I never purchased a 12v charger. Setup currently using USB to sata setup and looks like this.
when I upgrade to pci-e I will definitely post here

Any update on using PCI-E? I am also curious about this mod!