UPC Connect Box vs Play Kaon AR2140 router: Comparison, opinions and choice of better equipment

I have a question. I decided to sign a 12-month contract with UPC for PLN 50/month. It's strange because the offer I ordered included a Connect Box router, I think it was offered with a signal amplifier, from what I later found out from UPC's videos on YouTube. However, the technician installed a completely different router than the one offered because I received a Kaon AR2140 play router. He said that the one he is installing is better than Connect Box from UPC. I wonder if he was telling the truth or he was fooling me. Could you tell me which of these routers is better and more modern and whether the technician tricked me or was he telling the truth?

@bandolero87
It doesn`t matter at all.
The installer installs the modem/router/modemorouter that will be issued to him from the warehouse, depending on the technology in which the Internet is provided.

UPC was bought by Play, so they decide.

Everything is probably better than CBox ;-)

Generally, it has e.g. Bridge:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDoQPXINaQE

And what is this bridge?

bandolero87 wrote:

And what is this bridge?

Modem router mode - this is something different than router mode.

artaa wrote:

Generally, it has e.g. Bridge:

Generally, there is no such operating mode in PLAY on this device.

bandolero87 wrote:

Could you tell me which of these routers is better and more modern and whether the technician tricked me or was he telling the truth?

CB has been on the market since 2015 and has its drawbacks.
As is the case with Kaon, you have to wait a few years for the equipment to become popular - although that won`t be the case here, because PLAY introduced a completely different device: PlayBoxNet

I'll dig up the thread a bit. Is there any solution to use your own router for fiber-optic internet from Play with the Huawei K562 router?

It is not possible. It serves as an ONT or on a leased network it is a device assigned to the client according to its S/N. At most, you can connect your own one to the one received from the operator.

arturm wrote:

I`ll dig up the thread a bit. Is there any solution to use your own router for fiber-optic internet from Play with the Huawei K562 router?

Why do you want to have your own router?

Erbit wrote:

arturm wrote:

I`ll dig up the thread a bit. Is there any solution to use your own router for fiber-optic internet from Play with the Huawei K562 router?

Why do you want your own router?

I want to set up my own private cloud for externally accessible media and my own websites (I am a programmer).

arturm wrote:

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I want to set up my own private cloud for externally accessible media and my own websites (I am a programmer).

This is a bad idea for so many reasons but...

You need a public address (preferably static) on your router`s interface. To do this, you need to replace the provider`s router or use bridge mode on it. Originally, this router has a bridge mode, but the operator may have blocked it.


Then ask your supplier about:
- public IP address
- bridge mode on their router.


Use a VPN for media available from outside (no redirections) and preferably place your own websites outside (on purchased hosting), also for security reasons.

Making redirects is a threat of a direct attack on devices exposed through such redirects, which may result in e.g. -> https://www.elektroda.pl/rtvforum/topic4008323.html or disk encryption.

Erbit wrote:

arturm wrote:

....
I want to set up my own private cloud for externally accessible media and my own websites (I am a programmer).

This is a bad idea for so many reasons, but...

You need a public address (preferably static) on your router's interface. To do this, you need to replace the provider's router or use bridge mode on it. Originally, this router has a bridge mode, but the operator may have blocked it.


Then ask your supplier about:
- public IP address
- bridge mode on their router.


Use a VPN for media available from outside (no redirections) and preferably place your own websites outside (on purchased hosting), also for security reasons.

Making redirects is a threat of a direct attack on devices exposed through such redirects, which may result in e.g. -> https://www.elektroda.pl/rtvforum/topic4008323.html or disk encryption.

Everything you wrote above is obvious to me. That's why I want to use my own router, configure DMZ and routing myself, etc. I'm just asking if there's any chance of replacing their router in Play? Are there any companies in Poland that can handle replacing the Play ONT/router, or possibly offer an SFP insert that I can plug into my own router?

arturm wrote:

.... I`m just asking if there is any chance to replace their router in Play? Are there any companies in Poland that can handle replacing the Play ONT/router, or possibly offer an SFP insert that I can plug into my own router?

I don`t think you asked about that.

However, since this is... as a rule, it is not possible to connect your own equipment if the ISP does not agree to it or makes it impossible for technical reasons, even though it is inconsistent with the EU directive, which I can refer to if necessary. That`s why I pointed out the above-mentioned solutions that, in cooperation with the ISP, will enable the goal to be achieved in a "legal" way.

However... I know that on another forum people replace the ONT received from the ISP with their own (or insert) and program it. The effects are very good, but for a few days some of them have had their connection banned, so... decide for yourself whether to fight or pick up the phone and call the ISP.

Erbit wrote:

However... I know that on another forum people replace the ONT received from the ISP with their own (or insert) and program it. The effects are very good, but for a few days now some of them have had their connection banned, so... decide for yourself whether to fight or pick up the phone and call the ISP.

Could you provide a link to this forum?

The UPC guys weren`t crazy there.

Orange -> https://trzepak.pl/viewtopic.php?t=51177 (for information, start from the end)

Netia -> https://trzepak.pl/viewtopic.php?t=64891

Or start a new topic, maybe someone has already done it somewhere

Erbit wrote:

The UPC guys weren't crazy there.

Orange -> https://trzepak.pl/viewtopic.php?t=51177 (for information, start from the end)

Netia -> https://trzepak.pl/viewtopic.php?t=64891

Or start a new topic, maybe someone has already done it somewhere

Thanks for the links. It looks like my current carrier has wised up and will switch their router to bridge mode. If everything goes well, I will stay with them.