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Roller shutter control: Yooda or another system? Smart home in old buildings

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  • #1 21230911
    luk357
    Level 5  
    I have a 25 year old house and when replacing some of the windows with triple glazing I brought out the electrical cables for the future roller shutters. The company that installed the roller shutters at my parents' house seems to use Yood motors judging by the appearance of the remote control. At my place, depending on the room and the window in the future, I wanted to use a radio remote control, a roller shutter switch (by cable) or both solutions at the same time (thanks to the nano control unit in the box). I have seen that Yooda offers central units to control the roller shutters from a smartphone app, once the unit connects to a WiFi network. However, the prices are quite high (YSH3 around 1100£ and YSH2 around 800£) and I can see from the reviews that they are very unreliable and work as they please.

    1 - Can I switch to another company's system instead of Yood's? I guess for Yood motors there must be Yood remotes and then all the hardware from that company?
    2. is there any point in playing around with the smart home from the app? If I have understood the functioning of the roller shutter control installation correctly, I could make myself into a group button, e.g. the whole living room in one button (in addition local buttons under each roller shutter), in the bedroom a group button under the south side and a separate one under the north side. Plus possibly a central one at the entrance for everything. Will this work all over the radio? I have seen such settings but over cable. In addition, I wonder if there can be two group buttons for one roller shutter, e.g. one group button for the living room and another group button for the south side, controlling one roller shutter.
    3. does anyone have a smart home in an old building? I would appreciate it if you could point out what mistakes to avoid, what solutions to choose. I have already searched on the forum but a lot of the topics are too advanced for me. I have no knowledge of programming or automation. In the future, I want to add opening the gate to the property with an intercom and a camera (I wanted to run a twisted-pair cable from the gate to the house) and a monitoring system (also by twisted-pair). During the renovation I pulled LAN 5e to most rooms in the house and put a rack box under the stairs. The house is permanently occupied and I would prefer to avoid overly invasive work. I would be grateful for any advice.
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  • #3 21233034
    luk357
    Level 5  
    >>21230973 Thanks for the reply. I see in the link that they are mostly TUYA controllers, prices from around £45. This is some solution, but I'm concerned about comments from people who have bought this. There are frequent cases where you have to recalibrate the blinds from scratch, there are better and worse solutions, and from what I understand, every time there is a power outage you have to recalibrate the blinds.

    Blebox shutterBox has better ratings, but prices start at around £175-200. A nice solution for one to several roller shutters, but not for the whole house.

    Does the technology work better where the roller shutters communicate by radio with the control panel, or each connected to a WiFi controller?
  • #4 21237501
    patryk_mirek
    Level 18  
    I don't know what it's like with motors now, but when I ordered an installation service about 6 years ago, you could buy motors without end sensor/detection and the roller shutter could spin and it turned out that it didn't notice the end (badly adjusted, calibrated - I don't know, I don't know about roller shutter motors) and it didn't reach the end, it just heated up. I had, I don't recommend it, replaced the part with one with a limiter, but it's no better either because new suspensions and slats had to be fitted after calibration.

    If you can afford it and are installing throughout the house - go for a dedicated solution but check out the option to integrate with google home, homekit, homeassistant

    If you are upgrading an existing installation with automation (I'll add this for posterity) I have tested several solutions and experience tells me:
    - don't go for Chinese magic modules from allegro (tuya/moes)
    - go for blebox or shelly.

    The first advantage of e.g. shelly is calibration, which even works, but Chinese modules do not have.
    The second advantage - small and will fit even in a shallow tin. Although here blebox "organoleptically" smaller seemed to me.

    But a shelly/blebox costs 100-200zł. If you want the sun not to shine on your face in the morning and you don't want to raise your d... because it didn't work then you have to pay more :) .

    Ps. a little off topic - if you will be fitting modules to an existing installation - pull out the switches, tape the module with some temporary tape to the "back" of the switch, make nice short wires and only put that in the box. Here is an example on shelly 2.5+wago

    It is much easier to work when you have 10 boxes to work with and you have prepared a set of such as the one in the appendix:
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