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Where does the myth of silver-plated and gold-plated audio cables come from, does it make sense?

andreyatakum 1905 39

TL;DR

  • The piece examines the audiophile claim that silver-plated or gold-plated audio cables improve sound quality.
  • It traces the myth to professional and military high-frequency communications gear, where silver plating helped resonant circuits and oxidation resistance.
  • Copper's resistivity is 1.72×10-⁸ Ω-m, silver's is 1.59×10-⁸ Ω-m, only about 6% lower.
  • The conclusion is that silver plating in acoustic circuits makes no sense because skin effect is negligible at audio frequencies, while gold is worse.
  • Silver-plated conductors mattered in circuits above 3 MHz, where skin effect and copper oxidation could affect coil stability and resonance.
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  • #31 21910664
    elukam
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    Well, if I hadn't seen it myself, I wouldn't have believed it.
    And what, anyone else feel sorry for Unitra? :)
    Audiophiles are unlikely to use a plastic mortar like the Amateur Stereo.
    Maybe nobody noticed before because nobody tried to record with it? :) And if he was recording to a tube reel-to-reel with an input with an impedance like an oscilloscope, he had that 10k theoretical bandwidth with a 0.5m cable. Neither radio nor tape recorder carried that much anyway, so it might have been ok.
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    Macosmail wrote:
    220k is a big overkill. I took a cursory look at this schematic and there are indeed such resistors, but it's probably more of an input than an output.

    Look carefully and don't discover America :)

    With the short connection cable everything was normal.
    The 220kΩ resistor is there because the signal is taken from the compensation amplifier for the reactive tone, so the signal here is higher by about 10dB (about 3x), so there is simply a resistor of this chosen value.

    For interconnecting equipment, 'shorts' of 40 or 50cm were produced, especially for interconnecting components in an audio tower, in which case the small capacitance (especially of cheap cables with eight wires in the screen) did not affect the bandwidth.
    The cable I was writing about had at least "pindzisiont" of them in a woven braid (yes, there were such), I wish I had counted :)
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    elukam
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    pikarel wrote:
    so there just happens to be a resistor of that chosen value

    I'm not going to say that I understand this argument and the logic flowing from it (I think, in the assumptions) :)
    Can you elaborate on what this selection of values consists of?
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    pikarel
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    elukam wrote:
    pikarel wrote:
    so there is simply a resistor of that chosen value

    I'm not going to say that I understand this argument and the logic flowing from it (I think, in the assumptions) :)
    Can you elaborate on what this selection of values consists of?

    If you don't understand the topic, why are you writing?
    I'm not obliged to teach you, but I'll write in a nutshell: it's the matching of the input with the output.
    The output voltage for writing to a tape recorder (from a tuner or CD) is assumed to be 1mV/kΩ. If the input resistance of a tape recorder is 47kΩ - 100kΩ , then a 220kΩ resistor with the input resistance forms a divider of 1/5 to 1/3. From this you can conclude that the voltage from the preamplifier in the Amateur before this 220kΩ resistor is above 250mV, and this could cause overdrive of the input stage of some tape recorders.
    I recommend reading books by Mr Feszczuk, Mr Witort or school textbooks for electronic technicians.
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    elukam
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    pikarel wrote:
    If you don't understand the topic, why are you writing?

    I guess it's logical for me to ask about something I don't understand.
    Indeed! I now recall that there was such a thing as mV/k input in the days of music postcards. It seems, related to the use of a single input for both microphone and other sources. A solution so archaic that it has completely slipped my mind. Even when I was messing around with electronics for tape recorders many years ago, this was no longer used. Or at least not used.
    By replacing the resistor with a smaller one you have also destroyed the concept.
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    A CD shaver I can understand, but a demagnetiser I bow to the originators of the idea.
    I know of a case where the service department claimed that a SONY tower (cos about 2000, a very popular mini model) had been damaged by CDs being played through. So that anything can be justified.
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    elukam wrote:
    By replacing the resistor with a smaller one, you also destroyed the concept.

    Actually, I hadn't thought of that; I destroyed the concept, for which I should be serving a life sentence :)
    However, because I knew the concept I was able to destroy it; after analysing the schematic to find the cause of the problem and remove it easily.
    I would add that the M531S has a large overdrive margin. The only trouble with this tape recorder is/was the short (40 mm) potentiometers in the adjustment of all parameters, so also the recording.

    In the case I described there was an impact of the long connection cable, so I should either recommend the use of a 0.5m cable or the use of suitable DI-Boxes (read what these are), but in "those days" we only used them in sound systems (bought for foreign exchange)
    Home appliances were simply "upgraded" on a massive scale on their own, for example: replacing universal heads with ALPS heads, phono cartridges with Shure, amplifiers in Radmor by replacing the power amplifier board with TIM-less ones (a company from Gdansk or Gdynia sold these amplifiers, but mainly Secam-Pal transcoders).
    This was not an aldiowódó, it was replacing what the manufacturer could not use because, for example, the 'foreign exchange input' exceeded the permissible limits.

    On the subject of gilding;
    gold plating of the feet in Polish BCAPs (used e.g. in industrial automation modules, telephony) was still in use, although plastic technology and whitened feet of everything was already coming from the West. This cheapened their production "a thousandfold", and thus the price of the equipment. Continuous miniaturisation entailed the large-scale integration of integrated circuits, and thus the digitisation of everything, which was fashionable, so that completely new gadgets, unthinkable a dozen years earlier, could be put on the market.

    Gold is still there where you can't get rid of it; on the pins of processors, expansion cards, modules.
    Oh, and on the contacts of the fuses in the aldiode.
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