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N Television - 86% Signal Strength, 0% Quality: Antenna Adjustments & Activation Queries

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  • #1 4263687
    dj_jasin
    Level 18  
    The problem is I have 86% signal strength and 0% quality. The antenna was turned in all directions and then nothing. What can be a problem because my hands are already dropping. Should I activate first or should there be signal strength immediately?
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  • #2 4263802
    Robstar
    Level 17  
    They will not activate you until you have a properly aligned antenna.
    The problem may be that you are not on the Hot Birda, but for example Astra - a slight shift and a limp. See if there are other antennas in the area, it may help.
    Quality is nothing more than the BER parameter and as long as you do not set it, you will have a problem.

    If you have a signal try searching all free channels, maybe it will find something, then you will know where you are and compare with www.lyngsat.com.
  • #3 4263863
    waldekg
    Level 28  
    Hello. The antenna should be set with a signal meter to be sure that the antenna is correctly positioned, check by connecting another decoder, it can be polsat or a digit.
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  • #4 4263893
    dj_jasin
    Level 18  
    Or maybe an analog tuner from an ordinary satellite?
  • #5 4263922
    waldekg
    Level 28  
    There may be an analog tuner.
  • #6 4263950
    tomekgryfice
    Level 11  
    There may be an analog tuner if you do not have access to any instrument. Set the frequency of analog TVN on it and then find HOTB. It will be easier, the digital signal is harder to set, in analog you will see at least the outlines of the image when you hit the satellite and then connect N and do it more accurately, only very slowly. The direction of the satellite is almost noon and remember about the converter - some need to be turned slightly to get the correct signal and the dish for N should be larger than the standard one. If you get the quality of at least 40, you can lie a bit about the fact that you have 60 and it will definitely move. Regards and good luck.
  • #7 4263958
    dj_jasin
    Level 18  
    And if it catches a signal on an ordinary tuner, how can I be sure that there will be a signal on the N?
  • #8 4263961
    tomekgryfice
    Level 11  
    There may be an analog tuner if you don't have access to any instrument. Set the frequency of analog TVN on it and then find HOTB. It will be easier, the digital signal is harder to set, in analog you will see at least the outlines of the image when you hit the satellite and then connect N and do it more accurately, only very slowly. The direction of the satellite is almost noon and remember about the converter - some need to be turned slightly to get the correct signal and the dish for N should be larger than the standard one. If you get the quality of at least 40, you can lie a bit about the fact that you have 60 and it will definitely move. Regards and good luck.

    Added after 1 [hours] 7 [minutes]:

    If you find the TVN analogue relatively clean, i.e. without dropping, you will definitely have a signal. I think you have the right converter ?!
  • #9 4264833
    oreik
    Level 11  
    Hello
    I had a similar problem when setting up the N-ke with my friends. Of course, the Tvn on the analog Amstrad turned out to be helpful. But not entirely. Because after replacing the well-receiving TVn amstrad with the N-tuner. I had the same. So 80% signal with zero quality. The customer service obviously wasn't helpful (has been in existence for 3 weeks).
    I came to the point that my friends changed the options, and exactly the method of broadcasting on DVB, and it should be with "2", the quality showed immediately :D
    I am not sure about the sound of these names, because it was a year ago and I did not deal with "N-ka" any more

    Regards
  • #10 4264858
    dj_jasin
    Level 18  
    As for the options, can someone explain to me how it should be set on the tuner?
  • #11 4269045
    meloch
    Level 29  
    It should be in the manual on how to configure the tuner. Follow the steps given.
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  • #12 4269534
    Mishot
    Level 24  
    from what I heard, the "N" antennas are too small ... it's best to have your own antenna ... (from 60 upwards ... preferably 90)
  • #13 4270325
    automatyk
    Level 15  
    On the N-ce, with the 0.5dB Sharp converter, the quality was over 50% and I often turned on After replacing the converter with a 0.2dB Golden Interstar, the quality increased to about 90%. The GI price is PLN 19, so it's worth replacing. It can also be Maximum 0.2dB for the same price. While observing the quality level, turn the converter clockwise to get the highest%. I live in the east and here, min. the antenna is 80cm, but better 90cm (e.g. Polish Corab).
  • #14 4282460
    ludek
    Level 11  
    I also have a 0% quality problem. I shot HotBird with an analog Grundig, but not very precise so far - TVN is a bit snow-covered (I'll shoot today). Signal strength 80%. In BOK I heard that the reason is the converter - about 10 years old ALPS fullband. Is it really? The lady from BOK did not seem to be very familiar with the subject. The digital polsat flies without a problem on an identical converter. Before I buy a new converter, I would like to make sure that it is not a matter of antenna alignment. Maybe then I will call a specialist with the equipment, let him set it up.
  • #16 4282545
    ludek
    Level 11  
    TVN is snowing on the analog tuner that I used to set up on HotBird. The precise alignment of the antenna will probably be left to a professional (without a meter, it's hard - and I don't have a good compass ;) ), but what about this converter? I am asking out of curiosity because I will buy a new one anyway (it's no money).
  • #17 4282550
    west222
    Level 14  
    N ki antennas are so small and weak that a branch of a tree in the light or a stronger rain and after the "birds" is enough ...
  • #18 4282587
    ludek
    Level 11  
    I forgot to add that I have something 80 cm old :D

    Added after 1 [minutes]:

    oh, and I live in Lower Silesia - 100 km from the German border
  • #19 4282657
    Marcin_1972
    Level 18  
    N tuners have signal meters - you have to turn on the tuner at the antenna and watch the indications. New tuners turn on this meter automatically. In my area, you can set the quality to about 70-75% on standard equipment (from the set).
    However, you need to have a good hand.
  • #20 4283167
    kelkeszą
    Level 17  
    You have a 100% converter in working order.
    The decoder n requires a very precisely positioned platter.
    Without the instrument it can be difficult, but good luck.
  • #21 4286410
    kanero
    Level 2  
    I have a slightly different problem:

    I always have a signal, even when I have a disconnected converter in my hand!

    ... and the quality is still zero. I have a standard N kit (antenna + Sharp converter).

    I turned the antenna on all sides and the signal was _ always_ 50-70%. I noticed that when the converter covers the hand, the signal strength improves :) So I took out the converter and when I hold it in my hand, whatever I direct it, take it to the room, etc., I still have 50-80% signal ...

    As I disconnect the cable from the converter, the signal (I use the meter in the N-ki tuner) drops to zero. So I suppose the tuner is OK.

    What could it be? Broken converter?
  • #22 4286895
    automatyk
    Level 15  
    Turning east-west is not enough. With a small antenna (60-70cm), the elevation angle (up-down) is important. The converter is probably good, but you never hit the signal. After all, there is the signal and quality level in the N tuner, you have to take advantage of it. Slow movements in the East-West and with the signal increase, you need to adjust the elevation angle until the highest% is reached. And again East-West, again the elevation angle, and then turning the converter to the right to the max. % in quality. When tightening screws, you should also look at the quality so that it does not diminish.
  • #23 4287008
    kanero
    Level 2  
    kanero wrote:
    I have a slightly different problem:

    I always have a signal, even when I have a disconnected converter in my hand!


    After another 2 hours of combining, I will answer myself: well, I do not know if this is the case with each converter, with my yes (I do not know it, but it seems to me that this is not correct behavior), but despite that I managed to set the antenna well and decode the signal.
  • #24 4289898
    dj_jasin
    Level 18  
    I used a signal meter and caught over 75% and everything is fine.
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  • #25 4290516
    kowi
    Level 11  
    And if the area in front of the antenna is clear, nothing grows. :?:
  • #26 4291352
    ludek
    Level 11  
    I replaced the converter from ALPS 0.6dB with another 0.2dB (at least 0.2 in theory) and immediately the quality jump from 0% to 20%. After more fine-tuning, I now have 40% quality with 80% strength. Let me just say one thing - nbox sneezes.
  • #27 4292612
    michcio
    Electrician specialist
    0.6 db is definitely too much. So it's no wonder that 0.2 db is better. For my taste, 40% is not enough. You should be able to squeeze more.
    Nbox is not as sneezing as you think. Simply, DVB-S2 modulation is more susceptible to various anomalies and interference than the older DVB-S. That is why there is a higher bar here when it comes to signal quality.

    By the way, the fact that it shows the signal strength on the converter itself is an attribute of many converters and it is not a disadvantage.
  • #28 4294714
    ludek
    Level 11  
    With a more precise setting, it would probably be possible to squeeze from 10 up to 20%, but not more. Anyway, now she also picks up without any problem. At best there will be trouble in bad weather.
  • #29 4311455
    as1234
    Level 12  
    My buddy, sometimes N tuners go crazy showing strength and quality. If, despite trying, you do not catch the signal, try to reset the decoder. Tuner reset is a combination of three buttons on the tuner panel: press in turn while holding the "Menu", "Res", "right arrow" buttons after about 5 seconds the numbers on the panel start flashing then release the buttons.
    Good luck
  • #30 4322983
    KAROLEX
    Level 11  
    Hello, I have a slightly different problem, the signal strength is 76% and the quality is 60%, but it often happens that the quality starts to go crazy and changes every few seconds from 0 to 60 again, then the image jumps and often loses the signal ...

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around a user experiencing 86% signal strength but 0% quality with their N television setup. Various contributors suggest that the issue likely stems from improper antenna alignment, emphasizing the importance of using a signal meter for precise positioning. Recommendations include checking the alignment towards the Hot Bird satellite, using an analog tuner for initial signal detection, and ensuring the dish size is adequate (preferably 80-90 cm). Several users mention the significance of the converter's quality, with suggestions to replace older models for better performance. The conversation also touches on the impact of environmental factors, such as trees obstructing the signal, and the necessity of fine-tuning both elevation and azimuth angles for optimal reception.
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