Antenna Alignment: 100% Strength, 0% Quality - Possible Causes and Solutions (Digit Tuner, Philips)

Hello,
For several days I have been struggling with setting the antenna to the digit. The 90 cm antenna, screwed on the southern wall of the building, set using a signal level meter to the maximum possible - the digit tuner effect (old, probably Philips, the same as the digit leased at the beginning) shows a red line on the antenna setting (I checked the tuner on a different antenna and it works ), I borrowed a n-recorder from a neighbor and it shows: strength 100% quality 0%! :cry:

What could be the cause? Is it possible that the metal sheet on the roof is affecting the signal (the antenna is right under the roof)? What to do with this?

greetings

Yes I did.
The client installed the antenna on the balcony under the roof.
It was necessary to lower the handle 0.5 meters.
n-ki platform
Try to set up on the analog + TV and watch the picture.
I do so in unusual situations

But why use an analogue if I use a meter? On the analog, I can check if there is a picture and if it is 100% HotBird.
I would like to add that the antenna is not blocked by the roof or anything else, only that it is close to the tin roof.

What is this gauge? If you set the SatFinder on it for the first time, it is better to do it on the analog. This measure for such a price is ok, provided that you master it, which is not easy ... in general, it is better to let it go / throw it away.

If it is close and does not cover the "view" of the antenna, it should be ok, a question of setting. Although I don't know what the "red bar" means, can you express it as a percentage?

0% digits on tuner, 100% quality on n-corder, 0% quality. Satellite Finder Meter and why you say it's bad? Initially, I set it to 5 and turn it so that the signal is as strong as possible, when it goes out of scale, I reduce the sensitivity.

drozd56 wrote:

What is this gauge? If you set the SatFinder on it for the first time, it is better to do it on the analog. This measure for such a price is ok, provided that you master it, which is not easy ... in general, it is better to let it go / throw it away.

If it is close and does not cover the "view" of the antenna, it should be ok, a question of setting. Although I don't know what the "red bar" means, can you express it as a percentage?

What does it mean to "master"?
What is the problem with using a single dial gauge?
Can you explain that?

Because he installs antennas on a daily basis and I had the opportunity to use it, in my opinion it was a failure, although, as I say, I mastered it after time. Never mind. I post a photo that I used to use, this dash shows the position of the potentiometer on the hotbird, the pointer shows 10 and on the tuner we have a beautifully between 70% and 80% of the signal. I advise you to take this meter on the already set antenna, and slowly from the smallest value, turn the potentiometer clockwise until you get 10. Then mark it on the meter (pot. Position) and set it at home.



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What does it mean to "master"?
What is the problem with using a single dial gauge?
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This measure is simply not the best one, its indications are, say, at a "mediocre" level. People buy it because it is cheap, they think they have saved on a professional. Anyway, it is not about ... the opinion about this measure is rather widely known.

No, I have to ask and let me go.
Do you want to say that in every place in Poland on every antenna, regardless of its diameter, cable and converter used, the signal from, for example, HOTBIRD will have the same signal on any connected meter?
Is it according to you or not?

In the vicinity of Rzeszów, yes it is close to "value" and not on anything but this particular one. Of course, somewhere in Pomerania it will be different, that's why I wrote earlier. And if you still defend this "meter", please ask in Azarta on Bohaterow Street if they recommend it ;)


"I advise you to just take this meter to the already set antenna, and slowly from the smallest value, turn the potentiometer to the right until you get 10. Then mark it on the meter (pot. Position) and set it at home"

It's not whether I'm defending him or not, I'm gonna hit him, I'm not defending him.
I'm just curious how it is.
Well, if a specialist says so, it probably is. :idea:

And I bought it in azart.
Greetings.

But why strength 100 versus quality 0? Could it be HotBird?

It's not a Hot Bird.

You will not check much on the n-ce, try on the analog, as advised by the relatives.

Good luck

The meter is indeed just like its price, a mediocre experienced installer can handle it. I use an old digital datcom, it has only one disadvantage - it gets crazy at low temperature.
Listen to the good advice, set it to analog, check if it is a hotbird and coarse the antenna, then set it exactly on the digital tuner, I know many installers who mount it because it is a pity to invest 1000 PLN

Will I check what satellite it is by connecting Ferguson and selecting satellites from the list?

So...

Hello.
In the Ferguson tuner, in the menu, antenna setup, satellite and at the top of the screen you have a bar showing the signal, then you set the Port Diseqc for the selected satellite, if you do not have the diseqc switch connected to the antenna, you set it, Disable.

You probably have a different satellite or a damaged converter.
I have had such a fault twice.
The meter will show that the satellite is caught, then check if it is there
right in the tuner.
If I have problems I use a sagem to set up a signal in it
grows in proportion to the position of the antenna.
The meter is also useful for tightening the mounting screws, while observing its indications, tighten the signal to be the strongest.

And will the connected meter be the image on the tuner? Do I have to connect the converter directly to the tuner?

Yes, the meter is passing the signal.
You can safely watch.

Aluboy wrote:

I borrowed a n-korder from a neighbor and it shows: strength 100% quality 0%! :cry:


greetings

Change the satellite - you are not on the hotbird - (you will be 100% sure on the analog)
If there is still a problem - get a new converter.

kisses

Hello, Thanks to everyone for your help. Antenna set up, the problem was to "hit" another satellite, due to the lack of an analog, I set it up on the ferguson, it is quite fast, not what the equipment crap.


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Greetings 4all

I have a question. Is the fact that after connecting the converter to the N, even in a room, even without an antenna, gives 70% of the signal and 0% of the quality proves that the converter is damaged. In my opinion, the signal should appear only after hitting the satellite with the antenna and the quality if it is HB. For me, the signal is always about 70%, even when I have an antenna in my apartment.

The signal can have that (new tuners), and you won't catch the satellite in the satellite room.
Cyba that you will open the window.

I know that. The essence of my question is to explain how it is that the converter, after connecting to the cable, gives the signal strength ne about 70% even without an antenna, even in a room. I can't comprehend it. The signal sent from the transponder is reflected by the antenna and focused in the converter should show the signal strength, after turning the antenna around, the beam is lost and the indicator should show 0% of the signal. I am asking if the signal strength is shown all the time indicates that the converter is damaged. Tomorrow I will buy a new one and check it 100%

patel wrote:

I know that. The essence of my question is to explain how it is that the converter, after connecting to the cable, gives the signal strength ne about 70% even without an antenna, even in a room. I can't comprehend it. The signal sent from the transponder is reflected by the antenna and focused in the converter should show the signal strength, after turning the antenna around, the beam is lost and the indicator should show 0% of the signal. I am asking if the signal strength is shown all the time indicates that the converter is damaged. Tomorrow I will buy a new one and check it 100%

do not buy a converter - N-ka junk is like that, and probably not only it, these are software errors, bad signal recognition, it is possible that it measures the converter noise itself or its operation without a signal.

The first thing for everyone who bought and received an original N canopy is throwing it into the trash (60 net) I don't understand how you can add something like that to the set!

Kisses

Polsat is similar, I was at a client who struggled for several hours with setting up the antenna.
The first words "something wrong with the equipment, I have 99% signal and no reception"
after disconnecting the antenna cable it indicated 8%, setting the antenna on the meter cut out a few bushes and it flies.

I'll be the one to step on:
I have a Ferguson 8900 and 7018.
After the last winds, it moved the sat antenna to me: today I put it back as it was (signal strength approx. 90-94% depending on the channel, quality: 70-75%). Tightened the antenna mount tighter in such a way that the signal did not change.
For about 8 hours, everything worked fine, in the evening the stairs started (no rain, no wind etc.): the signal quality is literally FLOAT - it jumps from 0% to 75%, you can't watch anything, on all (I think) channels happening.
I connected the old 7018 - the same.
I checked the cable and the "home" way (through the cable) converter (meter for checking the "diode", plus to the braid, minus to the middle - it seems perfect if 570 should come out -> I found this way somewhere and it really worked).
But I'm not sure if the converter is not damaged sometimes ...? It is about 2.5 years old, it was not the cheapest one from the 0.1 dB category, and it was really more sensitive than the previous "serial" for C +.
Help, please, because I don't know whether to buy a converter, or maybe some thick clouds are above me (night, I can't see - but would that happen?), Or maybe a few hours after tightening ... the antenna changed?
Please help!

Looks like a converter, I had it before Christmas, it worked and stopped.
I wasted 2 hours on fixing the fault, the client did not believe it.
I installed a new one and it runs.
You have the same on two tuners, i.e. antenna (or cable)
You can not check the cable with a meter for 100%, only substitution.

That's right - I changed the converter today and it flies