Negative Reviews on HDD Regenerator: Comparing with MHDD, Effects on Disk & Data Preservation

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Jun As the topic. I've read some negative reviews about it, and it's a bit surprising because I've used this software several times and was happy with the results. The disk is still running today and does not show any bad sectors. The obvious advantage for me is that, unlike MHDD, it...

Anonymous · Accepted Answer

For this and I wrote, all these posts must be removed like garbage, as the greatest evil that is, my friend did not even check smart, he does not even want to do it, he gives examples that are proof that this program is a miracle, so I will tell what is played with him, the soft itself does not check and even disconnects the smart for the time of its operation (why check the smart in such a program) so as not to cause any damage? - because it is one big scam. if we have 1 examines and with what my colleague says he advised hdd reg. in 4 hours, the trail hits me with a friend writing it seriously, there is no such thing as fixed, a colleague handed over a smart disk before the execution and after, it would be a proof and so this is a lie without knowing the subject.
For such things, when it comes to data, there are copyr and similar software, and for testing and repair, there is a soft manufacturer and a professional soft. For the poor man ST CP.exe, my friend certainly has no idea what soft it is because the soap in the eyes of hdd reg does not let you see it.
Look what this soft can do with a quite healthy disk, and what is more important, this friend did not even understand it -> https://www.elektroda.pl/rtvforum/topic900983.html#4609566.

As you can see, the author is absolutely not familiar with the algorithms for hiding bad sectors used in the firmware of modern media, he does not know that a damaged sector can be "hidden" (asign) even when you try to read it. And that the decision to hide the damaged sector depends only on the HDD itself (its FIRMWARE), regardless of whether or not they want it, the writers of HDD REGENERATORS.

In the author's concept, "special algorithm" is the order of writing a sector with ones
[FFFF] or zeros [0000]. About the fact that there are other patterns such as [AA55-55AA], [0F0F-F0F0]
and many others, as you can see, the author does not know.
In addition, this pattern cannot be patented and it can be used as evidence
fraud in court to prove.

The author's concept of the software's work on the physical level is also strange.
Working with the disk in LBA mode, he claims that the soft works only on a physical level.
After the software's working style with the disk, you can see that the soft does not work with HDD ports,
a uses BIOS interrupts (13H), which, nor can they be used to work with a soft that works at this level with HDD, maybe the author just confused HDD with Floppy Drive.

"HDD Regenerator" - this is the only one that I have met
commercial, advertised, and sold software. Which can be called
an example of absolute ignorance in programming and an example of cheating
consumer by advertising the non-existent capabilities of this software.
*** The program does not read the disk passport and does not check its readiness, but takes its data using dos - interrupted, although it has been known for a long time that these functions have bugs and may misinterpret data about connected devices.
Besides, it does not check if the disk is physically connected while the program is running. If the HDD "hangs" or is in Sleep-mode and stops responding to commands, the program will not see it and will heal the tested HDD, even if the disk is physically disconnected (after the Kaszpirowski method "REMOTE"

by reporting once every 3 seconds about the following:
Sector 0 was wasn't recovered
Sector 1 was wasn't recovered
Sector 2 was wasn't recovered
Sector 3 was wasn't ...
And if the user patiently waits to complete the scan of the HDD with a capacity of 80gb, it will take about 15 years, and the HDD which will hang around 5 years.

The continuation of the translation as the time will be ...
From myself a bit, colleague, what will happen with the data that hdd reg read correctly and they are in the buffer? what will happen to them if it is not there and the record will not be successful because, for example, we have a problem with servo-marks (a friend probably does not know that positioning during recording and recording operations is performed on various servo-marks), and this may be the reason even if the data could be read and fodder, but using this software, the data will be lost, and God forbid it was already used reserves, which a clear friend will not learn from this program, there is no such possibility (and I think the writer hdd reg would be happy to he agreed that the smart function should be withdrawn from the standard at all) !!
If you search in the internet you can find a lot of things - something like that =>
http://forum.infojama.pl/viewtopic.php?t=106124
Now my question for a friend. how does a colleague think what is played with this disc, and what force is trying to make more use of this software in such cases?
In this case (if the colleague does not know anything, for example about wd, I will say that these symptoms just indicated a physical damage), which, more precisely, there is no difference anyway, if the wd on the cpu marwell disk can be detected as the wdc rom model), but this software does not matter if it does not check the error, but only its presence, and in fact the program is only a possible read / write error, and this means that it will try to repair d even if it does not work due to the corruption of the translator by logic. Each professional soft will give an error as idnf, but the super soft will be devoid of such details and will try to finish the disk and not inform about serious damage that can be analyzed and made a conclusion as to the further steps in relation to data repair or recovery.

And the answer to my question about who needs it is hidden in the first post of a colleague, who wants to denigrate everything that is for free and squeeze in the same guesswork what is harmful.

Anonymous · Accepted Answer

Recently, there are quite a lot of sponsored stories on Polish forums ....... regarding hdd regenerator, the goal of all these nonsense stories is to denigrate MHDD. Why is this campaign needed at all?
Well, maybe it's time to show what is the one praised by ....... and paid for by ........ soft.
Ordinary WD200EB-00CSF0, the disk is visible in the bios, everything reports nicely and only one problem is not visible in the system. We will try to repair this disk with a HDD regenerator (for the purity of the experiment, we clean the g-list and smart attributes
after all, we register it with MHDD reading smart (funny but this super soft hdd regenerator lacks this and we have to read attributes like ....... says with poor soft).

well you can see for the regenerator hdd it is a breeze

connect the disk and look at the miracle hdd the regenerator repaired (supposedly) the first 2 sectors, only something on the 3rd disk hangs and no more step is constantly hanging. Nu maybe it's too hard work for a super soft (those who pay for it don't like hard work as well and for this reason they only do easy too much money),

we will try worthless MHDD

Well, we have idnf errors in each of the sectors (and those that fixed this super soft are also bad), it can only mean one damage to the translator,
for this we write a short script (6 lines) and run it with the command "." and the script name .wdtrans, we get the all done message

then disconnect the power and reconnect, and miraculously the disk is available.

Well maybe now the hdd regenerator will shine like its almamater

"professionalism", we fix the meaning of mhdd's smart attributes for the cleanliness of the experiment and fire up the regenerator hdd.

HDD regenerator finally with the help of the worthless MHDD (here it is really worth nothing, because it is free what you will not say about hdd regenerator, almamater also likes to sell putty for a lot of money, so the apple is far from the tree it does not rain). The program goes to examine one another and so until 20 I do not have too much time to wait 2 days to scan a 20 gb disk, I got to ~ 1,000,000 lb, we have 20 sectors repaired.

Now connect the drive to the MHDD and check what is with the smart

(Gosh, that's a joke on the morons, it overloads 20 sectors he fixed , and here it is shown that the disk has managed to reallocate 24 and 12 put in a queue and the worm from virgin innocence has become like a pigalak lady, here is a really professional repair

no cheating

it does not hide it, but it fixes it

).
And then some ask. And where did my data go, it doesn't overload them?

..

Anonymous · Accepted Answer

Victoria is also under the dos

;Przeliczenia translatora w WD na procku WDC
;
reset
waitnbsy

regs = $57 $44 $43 $00 $00 $a0 $8a
waitnbsy

regs = $57 $44 $43 $12 $00 $A0 $FB
waitnbsy

; End.

Anonymous · Answer

Such topics should not be removed easily, and so as to reflect the willingness of others to assume similar topics.
Because this soft is quack and in addition it is not free, and its only place is the orchard. The man who patented the patern (pattern) 0000 and FFFF is the same quack as would be the one who patented 2x2 = 4
and in addition, soft is softly speaking written for those who have little gray and too much green.
And you can write something that does not destroy the data only for the copyer, and not for the software for which working with the disc like a lottery, the only hope is that you will not lose, and there is no question of winning at all.

EBC41 · Answer

Could you write something more specific? Not that I have something to do with you, but so far you are writing it as if you were the author of a similar program yourself and you were just fighting the competition.

Anonymous · Answer

nothing more to add. The whole thing is at this link as I gave.

EBC41 · Answer

The only problem is that I can't speak Russian. If you had a translation of it into Polish or English, I would like to read it

Anonymous · Answer

Buddy, to sell this soft, you have urgency not to check what is going on, and to check it, give you the translation?
The translation will not be for the one that a colleague asked for it, but for the purpose of saving as many people as possible from making a fatal mistake.

EBC41 · Answer

In that case, I am waiting for the translation. Maybe he will give up on this problem himself. And I don't understand why this post should be deleted immediately? Is my question offensive, inappropriate?

Przemcio · Answer

If so, a colleague should read where the negative opinions about this program come from. Any utility used in an improper manner can damage data including MHDD as well, but cases of data corruption as a result of using this program are very rare. You have to try for it yourself. In the case of HDD Regenerator - the colleague does not mention the use cases of this program, so you can not judge it in any way or refer to it. Maybe I would reverse the question and ask why my colleague thinks it's a good program? P.

EBC41 · Answer

So I will describe my examples, not the only ones, of this problem:
1. Seagate U6 ST340810A 40GB hard drive. The power plug has pulled out. After removing the ailments, it turned out that one bad sector "jumped" on some system file. My computer crashed on the splash screen, I fired up HDD Regenrator. I waited 3-4 hours but the bug was removed. After the reboot, everything was normal

2. Quite old Quantum Fireball ST 2.1GB. He was in the computer at his uncle's. At one point I got a phone call that my computer keeps crashing. I arrive, check and I hear a steady tap from the disk. I fired up HDD Regenrator removed everything. The drive is 100% operational to this day.

Of course, in both of these cases, no data was deleted.

The only time this program has failed so far is:
1. Maxtor 4GB, I don't remember the exact markings. It probably had 100MB of Bad Sectors in its initial 600MB of disk. I ended up partitioning in PM with the exception of this area. I plan to run MHDD on it, but so far I do not have it at home.

Anonymous · Answer

CEO_3lo HDDRegenerator is a soft that is liked because you don't have to think about anything in it, the problem is that the programmer didn't think about it too much, the program can destroy the logic of the disk as little who can also damage the list of defects, I'm not talking about the fact that he can work with the disk physically unplugged from the computer because it does not even check its readiness.
I think the programmer would actually have to be held criminally responsible.
.

EBC41 · Answer

Oh, I fuck you. Okzo, what an irony of fate. Well, it so happens that I have the same disk as the one described by you (maybe only the second part of the model is different, but generally it is WD200EB), I had very similar symptoms. Namely, when I got it, there were 3 partitions on it. 2 were empty and on C: there was DOS and some strange program installed (see accountant). Since we (me and my cousin) needed it to transfer a large amount of data from computer to computer, I deleted this partition and PM set up one FAT32 logical drive. After starting XP, there was a problem because the computer had a habit of freezing while copying, the disk was making a knocking characteristic. After a quick HDD diagnosis, it turned out that bad sectors were to blame. Well, the HDD regenerator has come to work. One thing surprised me a lot. Namely, he was repairing something, but the disc worked as if it was idle, i.e. the plates were spinning but the heads were standing still. Out of curiosity, after about 2 minutes, I interrupted it and turned it on again, what effect? Well, that he found the same errors that he supposedly fixed earlier. More interesting things turned out after restarting and starting XP. Well, the disk just evaporated. The BIOS saw it but under Windows there was no way to get into it. It ended up lying on my shelf now (it was taken out of the English garbage can, so we decided that it didn't go there for no reason.

). But since it can be revived so easily, I'll try.

Finally. Okzo, you've disgusted me already HDD Regenerator :)

I will add that the whole story takes place at a time when I had no idea about MHDD ...

Przemcio · Answer

The purpose of this Forum it is not disgusting anything. We are working on introducing the principle of operation of electromechanical devices such as hard drives and working with them during a failure using generally available methods with the help of the acquired knowledge. For the future, I would only ask you to keep the general principles of good manners and eliminate the vocabulary with high expressive power commonly known as profanity from fasting. Let us respect the younger age Forum users . Using my powers, let me make this topic - Announcement. P.

BIGOLSEN · Answer

Since some people try to use paid programs with this type of damage, I would direct my steps to a program less known on the market, such as Spinrite. I note that it is paid, but much better made than HDDRegenerator. It also works better / smoother. In case of need, I have a video demonstration of the operation of this program. When my website starts to work - temporary problems with the server / migration, I will throw them for download / viewing.

Greetings .

EBC41 · Answer

Przemcio
Right, my words were strong, but it was due to my surprise at the news about this program. What okzo wrote changed my point of view on the matter. My new boot CD will no longer include this software, instead MHDD and Victoria under BartPE. Another thing was that I didn't realize then that I was dealing with the disk.

I would be grateful to Okz, or to anyone else, if they shared this "wdtrans" script with me.

He also proposes to change the subject of the entire advertisement to "No for HDD Regenerator", or a similar one. Perhaps thanks to this, many users will save their disks and data from not going away

EBC41 · Answer

Thanks for this code. And I will put it under BartPE because I need it for the PC inspector anyway, and I will have a convenient interface in win

Anonymous · Answer

A colleague, this is the MHDD 4.5 version, the last version with ata terminal, very simple script =>
well the code has already been provided by the Nirvana, so we are leaving it

in the SCRIPTS folder of this software you will find the test file, description there, and there must be our script in the folder, the name can be anything then only ".our name".

migol21 · Answer

Colleague Przemcio Thank you for your help and sorry for the confusion, but this is also about comparing the MHDD and HDD Regenerator programs
1) HDD Regenerator, from what I know, does not show SMART, but I can be wrong because I do not use such a great Soffto, and in fact I do not use it consciously.
2) MHDD, although an interesting and good program, it probably is also not perfect, i.e. if you do something you have to do it with your head, I think that you need to have limited trust in each software because you are its user, not its creator and you do not know everything exactly what the program is does and can do With MHDD, however, you can see more and know more what to do, even if you do not know it well enough than with HDD Regenerator, Kasmirowski's method lukaj w maje zrenice

And when I'm finished you'll be healthy. Only after quitting the program, it is rather not good.

That's why I think HDD Regenerator is a bad program because it does something that you can't even see and for years and then it turns out that what he did did not help, but rather broke it. in addition, it lacks MHDD functionality, however, and MHDD is not perfect because it does not display some SMART functions, which I noticed (Unknow) but maybe it has more problems of this type. Therefore, although it is perhaps better than HDD Regenerator, using it should be prudent and thoughtful, which is easier when you have a choice because in HDD Regenerator there is not even that choice.

I apologize again if I did not fit in the topic "Why do you think ...."

Anonymous · Answer

You know, colleague, what is the advantage of MHDD over any soft charlatan. In the fact that it is enough to learn to work with it and dig a little deeper into the knowledge of HDD
this soft becomes simply the best (for sure the best in the world), if you add that it is free, it simply means that everything it can do is just in front of you, just learn and do not make mistakes.

Szarlatanski soft (of the regenerator hdd type) is a bit different, it is, first of all, a commercial product and must absolutely be sold, so the software descriptions contain things that are impossible (cheating in one word to make it easier to sell), but no one will understand anything anyway (on it is apparently and the producers count) from those who use it and for whom it is intended (because we mostly know who the drive itself is a big secret to). Raising an army of trolls, this is the main goal of such software, the very possibility of developing a user as a thinking person in this software is ultimately ruled out.

Przemcio · Answer

I was hoping that we would stop at a constructive and detailed comparison of both programs without unnecessary commercial ideology, which would allow us to assess their usefulness.
In many cases, Users come to us with the problem at the very end only after practicing on the patient everything that comes across the Internet.

Apparently there is still a bit of work to do on that.

P.

MCbx · Answer

I am not associated with any business, so I will quote my autopsy info.

If they are bad at the beginning or the end of the HDDReg disk it won't help much. At best, it will allow for a few slow readings. Such an area, if any, is better to trim with a partition.
If there are bugs in the middle of the surface, there is a good chance that they are logical bugs, i.e. bugs that arose as a result of an operation error (e.g. power disconnection during formatting) and there is a chance of their recovery. From the comparison, I know that the chances are a bit greater than FORMAT C: / C (that's what it sounded like in DOS, it's about going through the tests).
Drives above 6GB - this is where HDDReg's capabilities end. I don't know why, but I was 100% able to recover only 1 disk out of 8 (had one study of unclear origin). On the other hand, small disks are recoverable, possibly simply because they are harder to physically examine.

I use MHDD for larger disks, because it won't work with smaller ones. If it detects it, it won't send anything because it requires LBA.

NOTE: As a collector of old equipment, I have a slightly confused concept of what a small disk is. For me, this is max. 3GB. :)

And now some examples:

Quantum Fireball 3.2GB, bad at first
- Made it possible to recover your data. Then the bady came back. I trimmed the area with a partition. The clipped disk works to this day.

IBM WDA-L42 (42MB) - More than a dozen bugs in the middle of the surface - removed. The drive works to this day.

SAMSUNG 4.3GB - a lot of tests everywhere - a dozen left at the beginning. Data to be read but slow. Bady soon returned, disk unusable.

Western Digital Caviar, 500MB - several dozen bad tests in about 25% of the disk - removed. They haven't come back.

Fujitsu 6GB - The bad sectors that were at the end (about 90%) were not removed.

Fujitsu 9GB - 1 tests removed. The drive works to this day.

Kalok 100MB - 1 to 25% full of research - some removed, some not. Truncated by partition.

Fujitsu 200MB - on 4 errors has been 1. cut off just in case.

As for the ease of use of the Regenerator, I must admit that many options are missing here. The illegal Regenerator was sold on Allegro for a short time, probably created as a result of some disassembly, this one had a bit more configuration options.

Anonymous · Answer

Don't lie nicely -> A topic you are not associated with is a rather big query. Who can lie like that when you offer paid things? Only associated. And who associated you and in what business, that's a different topic. As this MHDD refuses to work with smaller disks (you're lying brazenly),. Here, for example, the version MHDD wcc -> For quantum st / se / tm CP.exe And by the way, is it not time to end these attacks on MHDD just to whiten HDD REG. And one more thing, comparing HDD REG and MHDD is the same as comparing a drunk moron who jumped from a skyscraper with a helicopter (because both ). A colleague you said that HDD REG works with disks in CHS? (you lie cheekily) rather HDD REG can't work with drives in CHS at all see here -> ? who who who After all, I say this statement fits this software as much as possible -> .

kaem · Answer

HDD Regenerator restored Windows starting on an old laptop. The disk tapped and crashed everything (including a scandisk fired from the boot floppy). After scanning the HDD with Regenerator, everything works to this day.
Now I am waiting for invectives similar to what MCbx got ...

However, I agree that such a primitive application should be free. However, it is useful in bad cases.
However, if we remind amateur users and computer assemblers every now and then that the translator is responsible for all problems with hard drives, it is also not fair.

Anonymous · Answer

Another example without evidence. Colleague, read this whole topic from the very beginning, so as not to write the same for the hundredth time.
We have already witnessed the recommendation of easy recovery and hdd reg many times in cases of e.g. damage to the heads (knocking disks). I believe that such advice is not only harmful! The same statements like "I used it on the disk tapping oer zw or hdd reg" must be simply destroyed throughout the network and prohibited as criminal (because it is beyond the scope of ordinary harmfulness), the purpose of these statements, in addition to harm, mislead the consumer ( and for what and with whom it is done another matter "I can only say one thing, that the software and purposeful relationship is obvious").
All this together with the last article on 4/2008 chip track (we call everything with our names - anyone can sign it, only someone who has a goal can write such nonsense). It is clear that they want to stab the consumer of nonsense, who simply exclude the very concept of diagnosing disk faults and immediately refer to activities that are mostly harmful and impossible, and hdd reg is one of the points of this deception program.

EBC41 · Answer

kaem
What HDD Regenerator will do to you (removal of bad logical sectors) will be done by MHDD and it will certainly not finish at the same time. I would like to point out that, like HDD Reg, MHDD only moves those sectors that require it, the rest is left alone, although the "Erase Delays" position is clearly red with "DESTRUCTIVE" but looking objectively, the author's assurances of HDD Regenerator about complete data preservation can be put off on the shelf...

:arrow:

okzo
I have a saying, quite direct. If someone is a caseback, it will be a caseback until it gives him a good w ** e. The point is, there's no need to get upset and write more posts. In one you wrote why you should not use HDD Regerator, and why MHDD yes, that's enough. If someone does not believe it, let him do what he wants. If he finds a disk with very important data, he will remember it ...

kaem · Answer

Instead of insulting what you can do really well, you'd better give some sensible instruction on how to use the most important functions of MHDD. What's wrong with the fact that the regular computer user who is driving a hard disk prefer programs that are simpler than the almost professional harvesters?

EBC41 · Answer

A link to this page is in at least a few places on the forum

Anonymous · Answer

kaema, even the whole description is with us on the Forum www.elektroda.pl/rtvforum/topic868490.html#4147863

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