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Clutch Replacement & Two-Mass Wheel in Touran 1.9 TDI: Starting Car in Neutral Strategy

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  • #1 5712632
    pawel060891
    Level 10  
    I had the "pleasure" to replace the clutch together with the two mass wheel (Touram 1.9 TDI), the mechanic said to better start the car in neutral without the clutch. Maybe it is stupid, but I prefer to make sure because I am not going to spend 2300 for the second time for a set of replacement.
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  • #2 5712652
    trans-serwis
    Level 39  
    What about the control because the topic has been closed.
  • #3 5712762
    stomat
    Level 38  
    Or maybe the "mechanic" will suggest changing gears without a clutch? Launch with the clutch pedal depressed without a doubt.
  • #4 5712809
    pawel060891
    Level 10  
    With this control, they hooked me to the computer and some valve is defective, but they said that nothing serious can be driven with it. And as for this launch, I just wanted to make sure because it is a mass wheel there and I did not have to deal with it in my previous vehicles.
  • #5 5712821
    Anonymous
    Anonymous  
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  • #6 5712825
    trans-serwis
    Level 39  
    Enter at least no. error that came out.
    It may be that it is not a trivia.
  • #7 5712838
    niutat
    Level 36  
    Hello, I used to have a Hyundai (petrol) that had a sensor installed that prevented the starter from engaging without pressing the clutch first.
  • #8 5712845
    carrot
    Moderator of Cars
    And who fires without pressing?
  • #9 5712881
    pawel060891
    Level 10  
    trans-serwis wrote:
    Enter at least no. error that came out.
    It may be that it is not a trivia.
    I'm sorry but I don't remember this number. But it was about some kind of exhaust gas recirculation valve, he told me that you can drive with it. He was lying?
  • #10 5712931
    brofran
    Level 41  
    carrot wrote:
    And who fires without pressing?

    Me - for 20 years. and the results of this is ? There is nothing about it in the service book. And in winter with a weak battery, I would still understand such an operation.
  • #11 5713174
    ociz
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    carrot wrote:
    And who fires without pressing?

    I sometimes, when I don't want to get in the car ;)
  • #12 5716775
    gajowy6110
    Level 11  
    I've been driving different cars for 23 years and I always press. I don't think it breaks anything !!!
  • #13 5718499
    putin2208
    Level 18  
    I became a freshly baked driver (passed after 1 attempt :P ) and during the course they taught that you should start the car with the clutch pressed. greetings
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  • #14 5718523
    000andrzej
    Level 37  
    After all, it is clear that when the clutch is pressed, several modes in the gearbox are turned off . In winter, with cold oil, this is quite a heavy starting load.
  • #15 5718584
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #16 5718609
    brofran
    Level 41  
    gromleon wrote:
    someone will finally be surprised when it will have a slack and the car will start on the starter.

    Well, I would definitely be surprised, because I have not seen such a car that would move freely (probably downhill without turning on the engine).
  • #17 5718724
    ociz
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    Well, you haven't seen much, because some cars in winter with thick oil behave as if they had an automatic transmission, you release the brake and it starts :)
  • #18 5718757
    rickoo69
    Level 12  
    I'm "for" you need to fire on the clutches;]
  • #19 5719185
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #20 5719505
    stomat
    Level 38  
    Anyway, premature wear of the dual mass flywheel or the clutch disc by firing with the clutch depressed is a pyramidal bullshit. The only component that could wear out faster is the release bearing. The benefits of clutch firing far outweigh the losses.
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  • #21 5719531
    Anonymous
    Anonymous  
  • #22 5719747
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #23 5719890
    balbing
    Level 2  
    only on the clutch, especially in winter, when the oil in the gearbox is thick and creates additional resistance
  • #24 5719989
    romoo
    User under supervision
    What is the actual touran run?
    :) since you acquired it, it is a lottery with such cars.

    Igniting it with or without the clutch does not affect its durability.

    And the mass wheel 2 is a different story.
  • #25 5730850
    pawel060891
    Level 10  
    the mileage is 153 thousand. The car would be serviced until 144 thousand, the last inspection in January 2008. Confirmed by the VW service in POLKOWICE
  • #26 5730912
    spektra
    Level 18  
    From thirty years of experience - always with the clutch pulled out. In winter, it saves the starter and battery and of course it is safer regardless of the season. I support the previous speakers.
  • #27 5733464
    SQ5EKY
    Level 12  
    I am also of the opinion that only on the pressed clutch ... definitely
  • #28 5733493
    pawelek_be
    Level 16  
    NIUTAT wrote:
    Hello, I used to have a Hyundai (petrol) that had a sensor installed that prevented the starter from engaging without pressing the clutch first.

    American ?? such security for people used to automatic machines so that they do not fire on the run ...
  • #29 5733641
    tofurman2
    Level 14  
    pawelek_be wrote:
    NIUTAT wrote:
    Hello, I used to have a Hyundai (petrol) that had a sensor installed that prevented the starter from engaging without pressing the clutch first.

    American ?? such security for people used to automatic machines so that they do not fire on the run ...

    And which car with an automatic transmission has a clutch ?? Because all the ones I've seen so far only had a brake and throttle ...
  • #30 5733650
    Anonymous
    Level 1  

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the practice of starting a Volkswagen Touran 1.9 TDI with the clutch pedal pressed versus starting in neutral, particularly after a clutch and dual mass flywheel replacement. Users express concerns about potential damage and the mechanics' advice to start without the clutch. Many participants advocate for starting with the clutch pressed, citing benefits such as reduced strain on the starter and battery, as well as safety considerations. Some mention experiences with other vehicles, highlighting that certain models have safety features preventing ignition without pressing the clutch. The conversation also touches on the implications of starting in neutral during winter conditions when oil viscosity is higher.
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