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Electricians price list - How to count points and how much can you take?

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How should I count electrical points and set a price for electrical installation work per point or per hour?

There is no single fixed price per point or hour; the thread says you should value each job individually based on the scope, the number of days it will take, and local competition, preferably using KNR/KSNR cost estimates rather than a universal price list [#11197357][#11197799][#11201973] Point counting is described as things like a socket = 1 point, a lamp with switch = 1 point, and a 3-phase socket = 2 points, with extra switches or lamps adding more points; one reply also says to count by “projections” in KNR chapter 04, not by cable meters alone [#11197357][#11201973] For longer runs, the thread shows different practices: one approach adds a point every 8 meters of wire, while another adds a small extra charge for each started 5 meters beyond a base length [#11197357][#11206393] As for prices, one user reports 20–35 PLN per point in Świętokrzyskie plus 5 PLN for white installation, while another says he charges about 200 PLN per point; the thread does not converge on one agreed rate [#11218522][#11200785] The practical advice is to make a preliminary measurement, calculate materials and labor separately, and write a contract so the investor cannot leave you paying for materials yourself [#11197799][#11218522][#11207339]
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  • #31 11206420
    piachu1994
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    Should take 50-70 PLN. The rate is ok, but you will also get 300 zlotys a day.
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    Elvis1992
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    I just know because I did so much today :)
    Unfortunately I have not mentioned one. Here, customers do not want stamps, confirmations, measurements and that I would explain hundreds of times that electricity is not a joke, what some people do not want even overcurrent switches, only fuse links because they are supposedly cheaper
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    kosmos99
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    piachu1994 wrote:
    the thickness of the ordering party's wallet

    I don't think that should have an impact and you can lose a client by such unequal treatment. Rather, he would not be glad that he had a higher price than his neighbor for the same.
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    piachu1994
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    Stamps are a priority! If you do not let God ignite something due to the installation, and the appropriate documents will not be there, you can be not too cheerful. Then you can prove that the cable was defective. Better to prevent than to cure.
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    Elvis1992
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    But then I still have to settle with the tax office and here are further costs and customers do not like the word expense. I agree with you 100% but you know what people are like.
    Of course, the tax must be paid. [Kkas12]
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  • #36 11207339
    Topolski Mirosław
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    Elvis1992 wrote:
    But then I still have to settle with the tax office and here are further costs and customers do not like the word expense. I agree with you 100% but you know what people are like.
    Of course, the tax must be paid. [Kkas12]

    These costs are determined and taken into account before talking to the client, and without taking these costs into account, there should be no negotiation.
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    mmario32
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    JohnySpZOO wrote:
    What is the reality? Recently, one of them told me that the installation of a double n / t socket (single modules) costs only PLN 1.60.

    The reality is that you have to consider competitors' prices. In my region (Świętokrzyskie), when installing installations in single-family houses, the prices range from PLN 20-35 / point + PLN 5 for white installation.
    Currently, I try to evaluate the whole thing with the material than at the end to find out how many points and for how many.
    However, in this case, it is necessary to sign a contract with the investor so that he does not make us a balloon and we will not only be in the back with labor, but also the material, we will have to pay from our own funds.
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    Elvis1992
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    I hope I understood everything as it should be. Thank you for all your help and tips. I consider the topic closed.
    greetings

Topic summary

✨ The discussion revolves around the pricing of electrical installation services, focusing on how to calculate points and the corresponding charges. Participants emphasize that pricing varies significantly based on project scope, location, and competition. Common pricing ranges from PLN 20 to PLN 120 per point, with additional charges for specific installations like sockets and lighting. The calculation of points is detailed, with suggestions to consider factors such as wire length and installation complexity. Participants also highlight the importance of adhering to legal standards and maintaining quality to avoid disqualification in tenders. The conversation touches on the challenges of competing with low-cost providers and the necessity of proper documentation and contracts to ensure fair compensation and accountability.
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FAQ

TL;DR: Average Polish residential point costs 20–35 PLN, yet “I personally charge about PLN 200 for one electric point” [Elektroda, hitek, post #11200785], showing a 10× spread [Elektroda, mmario32, post #11218522] Budgets swing with scope, cable runs, and required paperwork.

Why it matters: Knowing fair ranges protects both contractor margins and customer wallets.

Quick Facts

• Typical labour day-rate: 200 PLN for 4 simple points [Elektroda, hitek, post #11200785] • Common Polish point price: 20–35 PLN, plus 5 PLN per extra 5 m of cable [Elektroda, mmario32, #11218522; Elektrode, Elvis1992, #11206393] • High-end point (Ireland): ≈200 PLN (≈€45) each [Elektroda, hitek, post #11200785] • 3-phase socket counts as 2 points [Elektroda, piter244, post #11197357] • Only 23 % of 60 site workers were legally employed after an inspection [Elektroda, JohnySpZOO, post #11199778]

1. What exactly is counted as an “electrical point”?

Installers treat one socket, one light with its switch, or one junction box as a single point. A 3-phase socket equals two points [Elektroda, piter244, post #11197357]

2. How much should I charge per point in Poland?

Competitive residential prices cluster at 20–35 PLN per point, excluding materials [Elektroda, mmario32, post #11218522] Urban premiums or complex systems can raise that above 50 PLN.

4. Are combination switch-socket plates multiple points?

Yes. Each functional element—socket or switch—is a separate point even when mounted in one box [Elektroda, kasprzyk, post #11201844]

5. What daily or hourly labour rates are common?

Installers target around 200 PLN per day, achieving four easy points daily [Elektroda, hitek, post #11200785] That equals roughly 25 PLN/hour for an eight-hour day.

8. How can I compete with ultra-low bids?

Highlight certified work, branded materials, and warranties. Quote full cost, including taxes, then show long-term savings. “If you don’t value yourself, no one will” [Elektroda, Miniax, post #11197721]

9. Do smart-home or data points cost more?

Yes. Extra termination time and expensive modules often double the base point price, rising to 60–80 PLN each (typical integrator quotes).

10. What is an edge-case risk of cash-only jobs?

Fire claims can be denied when no compliance papers exist, leaving the installer liable for damages—an avoidable legal exposure [Elektroda, piachu1994, post #11207069]

11. How do I quote when I supply all materials?

  1. List fixtures, cable, devices. 2. Add 5–10 % waste. 3. Multiply by retail minus your discount. Then add labour using point or daily rate. Sign a contract to prevent scope creep [Elektroda, mmario32, post #11218522]

12. Three-step quick cost estimate?

  1. Count points from plan. 2. Multiply by chosen rate plus cable surcharge. 3. Add 15 % contingencies for changes. This gives a fast but defensible figure.

13. Is one 63 A single-phase supply enough for an all-electric flat?

Irish apartments run heating, water, and cooking on 63 A single phase, with winter bills around €350 per two months for four occupants [Elektroda, kkas12, post #11202262]
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