Remote control of roller shutters(wifi) - Somfy, Elero, success?

Hello.
I would like to install external blinds.
The roller shutters should have:
- control by remote control/computer/phone.e.g. with Android,
- functions: opening and closing completely, closing e.g. to half of the window and closing with leaving openings between the slats,
- functions of opening and closing at a specific time and on a specific day.

The roller shutter manufacturer has suggested 3 systems to me, Somfy, Elero, Success and I will choose between them. Obviously the proposals vary greatly in price. Unfortunately, I have not been able to find an answer as to whether the motors of these companies can be controlled via the Internet What would need to be bought and how complicated would it be to program such a system?

Therefore, perhaps one of the forum members knows the answer to this question? Also, please give me your opinion on these systems (obviously price is an important factor when choosing a supplier). I am also wondering if it would be possible, for example, to control via the network not only the roller shutters but also, for example, the power strip and the light?

PS. I have of course read quite a lot of topics about smart home etc. but in my case this is not applicable - ideally it should be done without forging walls at all.
Regards.

Plugging in a LAN cable would not be a problem.

You can use a Polish Ceuron. Install radio shutter modules for about 150zł + remote control for about 140zł. This can work without a controller.
Unfortunately, you will need a controller to control via the internet and this will cost you around PLN 1,000. The controller communicates with the internet via Wi-Fi.

In order for there to be communication of your installation with the network, you have to add some kind of device. And now, depending on what standard you want, that's how much you'll pay. In general, I would advise against - for cost reasons - any kind of access via the internet. It's form over substance. Because in order to access your system via the internet, you necessarily need a public IP address (and not all internet providers offer this service - pathetic), or you can ask for port forwarding and vpn, but this is cumbersome. You need this IP address to be able to access your visualisation (or whatever you have) of the system via a browser, and you need a server to store the page. Connecting to such a server requires an additional driver or an open building automation protocol, e.g. Somfy offers communication over KNX.

A question to your colleague isotop: does your solution, give you the possibility to control the system from anywhere on earth? It's interesting what you write, but it seems to have only local coverage.

As for controlling the rest of your home, you can control anything you want - the limitation is the state of your wallet. I would be wary of wireless systems though - if the house structure, is based on reinforced concrete - strong attenuation. Everything has to be thought through!
Regards

Ceuron does not require a public IP because it connects to an external server. All you need is a regular Wi-Fi network at home and you can have coverage from anywhere on earth.

Regarding concerns about coverage with reinforced concrete walls, just use a more powerful controller and such walls are no longer a problem. This is exactly what Ceuron made the S300-iMax for.

Oh that's interesting. I haven't come across something like that until now. Do you pay some kind of subscription to use an external server, or is that already included in the price of the controller?
For residential homes, a cool solution.

When buying a PBX, the user receives a promotional account on the Ceuron website. This is your own website. You create your own page using a generator supplied by the manufacturer (free of charge, of course). You do not need to be familiar with HTML. You can use the generator to set up roller shutters, windows, etc. and then, with the press of a button, generate a page to upload to your account.

Of course, you can skip the Ceuron server, set up your own free or paid server (there are plenty of such servers on the Internet) and upload the files there.
At the end, all you have to do is enter the web address into the driver.

Thanks for the replies:)
"The Ceuron seems a very interesting device- I am still trying to get more information about this system.

But a colleague I see here well versed, so maybe here I will still allow myself to ask.
Controlling 5 roller shutters- motors (as I wrote in the first post- but quite different ones available could be installed) what are the costs?
I.e:
I need a controller, a remote control and an executive module?? something else? what are the costs????
kind regards

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But I see a colleague here who is well versed, so maybe I can ask him here.
Controlling 5 roller shutters - motors (as I wrote in the first post - but you could also fit quite different ones available) what are the costs?
I.e:
I need a controller, a remote control and an executive module?? something else? what are the costs????
kind regards

You need a roller shutter module for each roller shutter (5x150zł=750zł) + Controller (for a small flat the S300-i is sufficient and for a house the S300-iMax). The cost of S300-iMax is about 1200PLN + remote control for 140PLN (you can give up the remote control and control it from your mobile).
The whole unit with remote control costs around £2100.

Ok. the prices seem very reasonable, now the question is just which engines does this system work with? Who is able to program it and for how much?
Also, is it possible to program such a control unit to open at a specific time, to open e.g. halfway, or to close only leaving the perforations.

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now the question is with which motors this system works?

Actually with any drive as long as it draws less than 5A. So, in practice, with anything.

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Who is able to program this and for how much.

With this you need to find some installer who will undertake or play around with it yourself (by calling/writing Ceuron you can get pretty good technical support)

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Also, is it possible to program on such a control unit to open at a specific time, to open e.g. halfway, or to close only leaving the perforations.

You can do any task you can think of including opening/closing at a specific time or opening/closing for a specific period of time and getting a half opening or unsealing effect. The controllers have a battery back-up for the time, so there is no need to reset the clock after a power cut.

If you add a light sensor, the roller shutters can close automatically when it gets dark or open when it gets light. It is also possible to make mixed dependencies, e.g. the roller shutter opens when it gets light, but not earlier than 7.30 a.m. from Monday to Friday, and not earlier than 10.00 a.m. at the weekend. (You can use a timer for this, which works in a similar way to setting the alarm in android phones - i.e. events can be set according to the day of the week and time). Such a solution is ideal for use in the bedroom instead of an alarm clock.

Nice has the motors and controls you are talking about, as of today without internet control.

Roller shutters should have:
- control by remote control (Nice motors with radio, or control units to control motors from other manufacturers)
- functions: opening and closing completely, closing e.g. to half of the window and closing with leaving openings between the slats (in order to have opening to the programmed position, e.g. halfway between the blinds, the motors must have electronic limit switches, or you can stop them yourself in the appropriate position)
- functions of opening and closing at a specific time and on a specific day (remote control Planotime - 6 roller shutter groups and 100 events per week)

meeisster wrote:

Hello.
I would like to install external blinds.
The roller shutters should have:
- remote control/computer/tel.e.g. with Android,
- functions: opening and closing completely, closing e.g. to half of the window and closing with leaving openings between the slats,
- functions of opening and closing at a specific time and on a specific day.

The roller shutter manufacturer has suggested 3 systems to me, Somfy, Elero, Success and I will choose between them. Obviously the proposals vary greatly in price. Unfortunately, I have not been able to find an answer as to whether the motors of these companies can be controlled via the Internet What would need to be bought and how complicated would it be to program such a system?

Therefore, perhaps one of the forum members knows the answer to this question? Also, please give me your opinion on these systems (obviously price is an important factor when choosing a supplier). I am also wondering if it would be possible, for example, to control via the network not only the roller shutters but also, for example, the power strip and the light?

PS. I have of course read quite a lot of topics about smart home etc. but in my case this is not applicable - ideally it should be done without forging walls at all.
Regards.

Plugging in a LAN cable would not be a problem.

Maybe this video will lead you to a new lead. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4maRPVS4Bs
Simple installation, remote control function from anywhere with internet access. Also important - possibility to control, each roller shutter separately, full automation and other functions when the system is expanded.

And I wonder why people would want to control their roller shutters online?
When they are in Japan, for example, will they want to control them in a building in Poland?
Is it not a typical local control? If I'm at home, I control the roller blinds as needed - or if the system is intelligent enough to know when to lower/close the blinds, etc...

The answer to your doubts is in the film https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4maRPVS4Bs
There is information there about the automation of the system depending on e.g. the time of year or the time of day. And remote control - maybe acutely from Japan is not necessarily the case, but e.g. you have a holiday home/plot that you commute to from the city. You get in the car, you have an hour's drive ahead of you by car and before you arrive from your smartphone you remotely control the opening of the blinds to let the rising sun warm the interior. Practical, right.