Livolo - Livolo touch switches triple and quadruple impulse switches

Hi all, I need help with the Livolo touch switches.

I would like to use Livolo's Full Moon range of touch switches in my home. I am interested in triple and quadruple switches (the ones mounted in square boxes) but I need pulse or "bell" switches and I can't find those. I need them for control:

- roller shutters (I have F&F one-button controllers that work sequentially.... 1. 1. pulse roller shutter up, 2. pulse roller shutter up, 3. pulse roller shutter down) I have three terrace windows side by side so I want to use a triple button (but I can't find a pulse one)</li>
- to control light scenes (and other devices via impulses fed to the controller - Satel Integra control panel) and here again I need impulses
- traditional lighting (here I have no problem, as it does not have to be pulsed)

Livolo produces impulse buttons but only in the so-called EU frame system, where there is a maximum of 2 buttons in the box and I need a version with 3 and 4 buttons. I wonder if there is any way to convert the usual triple and quadruple push buttons (those in square boxes) into impulse ones...? Electrical/electronic engineers please help.

If anyone knows of any alternative impulse touch buttons that come in triple and quadruple versions I would also appreciate the information.

wikig wrote:

I would like to use Livolo's Full Moon range of touch switches in my home. I'm interested in triple and quadruple switches (those mounted in square boxes) but I need impulse or "bell" switches and I can't find such.

I completely fail to understand your problems. Ask the designer who designed your installation.
Since he envisaged such solutions, he is obliged to provide information about the fittings in the design. If he has not done so, report the subject to PIIB.

As far as I can tell, you need potential-free NO buttons. The Livolo you mention probably has 230V outputs. Please write the specific product codes [of these buttons] and what the outputs should be within one button. It is possible to convert 230V outputs into potential-free outputs, e.g. via relays with a 230V coil. A pulse function could perhaps be created by e.g. restarting the power supply of the button. Quite a primitive solution, but one that came to mind for the moment. The prerequisite is that the initial state of all buttons is OFF and the response time of the button to restart is quite short [a few - several milliseconds]. There are probably smarter ways to solve the problem, but let the smarter ones write. Of course, you could also try to choose hardware from another manufacturer that has the right button configurations.... in which case give the types / dimensions of the boxes.

Thanks for the quick replies. The specific models I have in mind are:
- quadruple: "VL-C304-82 LIVOLO touchscreen quadruple switch with black glass panel" Link and for this box "Flush-mounted installation box 101x67x50 (UK box 118) for LIVOLO switches" Link
- triple: "VL-C303-61 LIVOLO triple touch switch with black glass panel" Link and box "Flush-mounted installation box 83x83x50 (UK box) for LIVOLO switches" Link

I don't have the boxes yet so I can put in square or round, shallow or deep or whatever.

The outputs within a button should be 230V for the roller shutters and for the light scenes I think it will be 12V for the inputs on the Integra input expansion modules.

If it is at such a stage then let the fellow still make a decent argument as to why he is going into solutions that do not fit his configuration?

Strong arguments I don't have other than the fact that they are pretty and seem functional and I can't find anything similar that fits.
If it can't be done then I'll just have to communicate this unpleasant news to my better half and we'll have to keep looking....
I was thinking that someone may have already had a similar problem and somehow solved it or knows the solution.

I am amazed, but unfortunately, not only is such equipment not yet available in abundance, but you still have to pay a lot for it.

This design for your needs should be fine:
http://www.aptom.pl/dopobrania/Panele_szklane/kk_AGHL6Tbt_v3.pdf

There have already been threads on the electrode about the search for this type of accessory:
https://www.elektroda.pl/rtvforum/topic2342049.html

Thanks... indeed a problem to find this somewhere. I'm starting to lean more and more towards TEM
They're nice and there are all the modules I need but sadly not tactile. I don't like to give up easily but this will probably be the most sensible solution.

wikig wrote:

Thanks .... indeed a problem to find this somewhere. I'm starting to lean more and more towards TEM
They're nice and there are all the modules I need but unfortunately not touchscreen. I don't like to give up easily but this will probably be the most sensible solution.

Of the ready-made ones, I think TEM is the most sensible.

Well, but since you don't like to give up ...something from the "do it yourself" field.

Electronic touch-sensitive switches as a built-in module are on offer from the company modułowo.pl

They offer a device with two touch fields for £40. Link



There is a note in the instructions that they can be ordered in pulse versions. You would need to re-arm the outputs with a suitable relay with a 5V coil.

For this, you would need to source suitably aesthetically pleasing slides preferably with a "no electronics" mounting system. Such slides do nicely

DARIN - Link Although I only see graphically double.

AMPIO - Link

Nexwell - Link

Only that they apply them to the protocol softkeys of their own systems. Maybe if you write a meil with an enquiry then who knows maybe they will sell them to you. After all, they can make money, and they don't have to work especially hard, because they have it developed.

Thanks for the links! Interesting devices from modułowo.co.uk - you could actually do something about it. I'm getting more and more pressure from my better half to take the TEM though and not bother with self-made devices. For now, I consider the subject closed... it is time to tackle the next ones, as there are still a lot of them left.
Thank you for all the (p)replies.

Hello
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Tan Gentleman makes any graphics and any power supply. He sells the switches on a well-known auction site. Write to him and you will definitely get a deal.

Greetings

Thanks a lot, looks promising. Livolo a little nicer but it's possible that with a larger quantity you could get along on your own design

wikig wrote:

Livolo a little nicer but it is possible that with a larger quantity you can get along on your own design

Nexwell here Link has published a pretty large and decent library of pictograms adapted for "drawing on glass". Unfortunately these connectors from allegro actually don't please the eye as much as they could. It is apparent that the manufacturer did not ask a specialist about the design. It would already look an order of magnitude better if he had used significantly thinner lines.... What I mean can be seen in the example of the Darin buttons.