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Connecting 5W Polycrystalline & 10W Monocrystalline PV Panels with Charging Regulator

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  • #1 13100639
    PoczątkujacyODN
    Level 2  
    Recently, I got a small 5W photovoltaic panel. I delved into the topic of Renewable energy and I wanted to buy another panel, but to make it cheaper, I found a MONOCRYSTALLINE panel together with the charging regulator, and I have a POLYCRYSTALLINE panel. If I connect them together, will something happen? Polycrystalline - 5W Monocrystalline 10W.
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    #2 13100746
    prose
    Level 35  
    Hello. You did not provide the drink from the rating plate.
  • #3 13100867
    PoczątkujacyODN
    Level 2  
    I do not know much about it yet, so I will write down everything that is written:
    Model type CL005-12
    Rated power 5W
    Rated current 0.30A
    Rated voltage 16.5V
    Short circuit current 0.34A
    Open circuit voltage 21.0V
    It was polycrystalline

    Model MH10
    Monocrystalline type
    10W power
    Charging current [Im] 0.58 A
    Short-circuit current [Isc] 0.72 A Nominal voltage [Um] 17.5 V
    Idle voltage [Uoc] 21.6 V
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    #4 13101069
    CzystyZYSK
    Level 24  
    You can connect from poverty ;-)
  • #5 13102205
    wnoto
    Level 34  
    Is it about similar output voltages?
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    #6 13102548
    putas
    Renewable energy sources specialist
    Yes, it is about similar output voltages. With such a low power, nothing will happen. Just connect them in parallel with each other.
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    #7 13102615
    prose
    Level 35  
    You can connect similar DC voltages by connecting diodes in series at each panel, in theory it will be different in practice.
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  • #8 13331654
    farmerstain
    Level 13  
    Let me connect to the topic.
    I have a similar dilemma, but currently I have two polycrystalline panels connected in parallel and I would also like to connect two or three more monocrystalline panels in parallel to the polycrystalline ones (the entire system of panels will be used to power the water heater, which will be part of the underfloor heating, the heater is for 24 but I understand that if I provide a little more voltage, its power will just increase)

    Parameters of polycrystalline panels:
    Pmax = 120W
    Voc = 31.9V
    Isc = 5.31A
    Vpmax = 25.7V
    Ipmax = 4.67A

    Parameters of monocrystalline panels:
    Pmax = 180W
    Voc = 44.4V
    Isc = 5.35A
    Vpmax = 35.4V
    Ipmax = 5.08A

    All panels would be connected in parallel to the heater (heating would only be on cold days, other panels would be used differently)
    Will such a combination of panels not spoil each other ??
    Please help.
    Thank you in advance
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  • #9 13331679
    putas
    Renewable energy sources specialist
    Here you have too large a difference in the voltages of the panels - 10V.
    It's too much to hold them together for a short time.
  • #10 13331776
    farmerstain
    Level 13  
    How could you connect them ... ?? I read somewhere about diodes, but I do not know if it will work in this case ...
    I would like to ask for advice on how these panels can be combined into one source.
  • #11 13331971
    prose
    Level 35  
    You will lose some power, but you can connect a diode in series to each panel. Connecting 5W Polycrystalline & 10W Monocrystalline PV Panels with Charging Regulator
  • #12 13331993
    farmerstain
    Level 13  
    well, I can, but then I will not be able to power the heaters directly, and most of all I care about it.
  • #13 13331996
    prose
    Level 35  
    The load will be greater on the 180W panel.
    Connect to the heater without a regulator.

    Added after 2 [minutes]:

    And what kind of heater do you have, how many W.
  • #14 13332031
    farmerstain
    Level 13  
    I have a heater for 24V (200W), so far I have bought it for testing for PLN 10.
    So connect the panels as in the diagram, only instead of the regulator there will be a heater ... ??
    and these diodes are TO-220AC ??
    such a connection will not damage any of the panels ??
    oh, these panels combine poly with mono ??
  • #15 13332059
    prose
    Level 35  
    You will not damage the panels,

    Added after 5 [minutes]:

    No matter what fast diodes you don't have yet, you can use rectifiers.

    Added after 37 [seconds]:

    10A minimum.
  • #16 13332167
    farmerstain
    Level 13  
    So summing up this:
    1.Panel 120W and 180W connect in parallel via LEDs on "+"
    2. A heater can be connected directly instead of the regulator

    Only such a question, will the voltage at the output be averaged with such a connection of the panels?
    what am I meant by
    prose wrote:
    You'll lose some power
    ?
  • #17 13332284
    prose
    Level 35  
    The panel with higher voltage will be more unloaded to the voltage of 25.7V of the 120W panel. The panel will not hurt, you will lose a little on the maximum power.

    Added after 1 [minutes]:

    I used to have panels connected this way.
  • #18 13334436
    prose
    Level 35  
    Better solution: 70 V heater and panels in series.
  • #19 13334982
    farmerstain
    Level 13  
    only that I have two 120W panels and I want to buy 3 more 180W panels.
  • #20 13344365
    CzystyZYSK
    Level 24  
    My friend photovoltaic modules are sources of current more than voltage.

    Therefore, the worst mismatch is the large difference in currents, while the difference in voltages is not. It should be remembered that the maximum current flow in the string will be allowed by the weakest element.
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  • #21 13703242
    hostii
    Level 25  
    Hi,
    I will also stick to this topic because I have 1kW Q.cells with a voltage of 65V and I would like to buy 1kW Poly 30V and connect two in series, which will give 60V? did someone connect something like that, tried if it made sense. The panels will be connected to the e-tracer 60A MPPT charge regulator. I wonder if it will work well or there will be losses because if something is going to be wrong or power drops, I will not combine.
  • #22 13703295
    prose
    Level 35  
    Better to buy a second regulator and connect it parallel to the battery.
  • #23 13703319
    hostii
    Level 25  
    the second regulator falls off because of course it will overpay ...
  • #24 17879626
    Etoo71
    Level 9  
    Hello,
    I will also stick to the topic :) .
    I have a 150W panel with the following parameters:
    Number of solar cells: 36 (SS50-M)
    Module efficiency: 13%
    Optimum power voltage Vmpp: 18.0V
    Maximum power current Impp: 2.81A
    Open circuit voltage Voc: 21.5V
    Isc short circuit current: 5.08A

    connected to the WP35 30A 12 / 24V LCD charging regulator and 84ah battery.
    Directly to the battery I have a FW03-12 wind controller (300W 12V) and a S-300 wind turbine (300W 12V), the whole system is powered by two dahua cameras and an LTE router with a total power of 32.04 (2.67A) - and so on truth does not expel and provides little energy.
    I would like to add an additional 160W module to the installation, which I already have, I realized that I should connect the panels in parallel and secure them with diodes ...
  • #25 17880033
    theo33
    Level 27  
    Etoo71 wrote:
    Hello,
    I will also stick to the topic :) .
    I have a 150W panel with the following parameters:
    Number of solar cells: 36 (SS50-M)
    Module efficiency: 13%
    Optimum power voltage Vmpp: 18.0V
    Maximum power current Impp: 2.81A
    Open circuit voltage Voc: 21.5V
    Isc short circuit current: 5.08A


    (...) I would like to add an additional 160W module to the installation, which I already have, I realized that I should connect the panels in parallel and secure them with diodes ...

    e.g. 50V 10A from the positive wires of the panels to the regulator, only compare the voltages of the panels
  • #26 17880771
    Etoo71
    Level 9  
    The first photo with the parameters of the new 160W panel, the second is the specification of the already installed 150W panel.
    Connecting 5W Polycrystalline & 10W Monocrystalline PV Panels with Charging Regulator Connecting 5W Polycrystalline & 10W Monocrystalline PV Panels with Charging Regulator

    How do you see it?
  • #27 17880799
    theo33
    Level 27  
    The voltage is ok. And if the diodes are not with heat sinks, then you need a higher current, so 15-30A.

    These parameters from the second photo do not match each other, the current will be about 8.5A and not 2.81 as in the specification
  • #28 17882638
    Etoo71
    Level 9  
    theo33 wrote:
    These parameters from the second photo do not match each other, the current will be about 8.5A and not 2.81 as in the specification

    Earlier, I did not pay attention to it, maybe it is just a specification error on the website, I will send a photo of the plate on the panel right away. In any case, I have two identical 160W panels in emergency. As for the diodes, I think that with the help of the electric one, it will match something, but in fact I have hopes that it is just a problem with the charge regulator.
  • #29 17900335
    Slayter67
    Level 2  
    Hello
    If it is also possible, please help me if it makes sense to connect both panels in parallel and does it even make sense to connect these two panels together.
    Is it better for this 280W panel which is connected to 3 64Ah batteries and, unfortunately, it does not work, it would be possible to connect, for example, a 300W turbine

    1, panel
    P max - 280W
    Isc - 9.41
    Voc 38.97
    Vmp - 31.67

    2nd panel
    P max 100W
    Isc - 5.92
    Voc - 22.5
    Vmp - 18.3

    I am asking for help and thank you in advance that nobody is shouting at me :)
  • #30 17900378
    Etoo71
    Level 9  
    In my case, it turned out that the panel was damaged and did not charge, I replaced it with 160W. And in my humble opinion, it is better to add a panel if it is possible
    Certainly, it is a cheaper solution and probably more reliable, turbines achieve their nominal power only in strong winds, unless you want to invest in a vertical turbine that starts and gives electricity at lower winds, but their amounts are probably 2x higher than that of an ordinary "windmill".

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around connecting a 5W polycrystalline photovoltaic (PV) panel with a 10W monocrystalline panel and a charging regulator. Users express concerns about compatibility due to differing voltages and currents. It is generally agreed that connecting panels with similar output voltages in parallel is feasible, although some caution against significant voltage differences. Suggestions include using diodes to prevent backflow and potential damage. Additional queries arise regarding connecting multiple panels of different types and voltages, with advice emphasizing the importance of matching voltages and currents to avoid inefficiencies and damage.
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