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Cyfral 2-wire - 2-wire intercom, 6-wire cable, how to connect?

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  • #1 13282232
    EMdoWU
    Level 14  
    Hello, I have been unable to connect a new Cyfral intercom for some time. The problem is that the intercom is 2-wire, there is room for only 2 wires, plus and minus. The wall has a 6-wire wire - white, blue, green, orange, gray and brown cables.
    If I press white on - the door opening starts working, but I can't find a plus. Please help.


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  • #3 13282380
    EMdoWU
    Level 14  
    hello, boy, it's strange because the intercom I bought a new piece a few days ago, I thought it would work. And the best part is that I bought the same as before, but I forgot what colors were inserted.
  • #4 13282619
    Ircys
    Intercoms specialist
    If it's a bad analog Cyfral, then after shorting the "+" and "-" wires, you will have an opening of the lock. This is how you will find 2 correct veins. -> Now you have 2 options to connect so you should be fine.
    However, it is best to have a meter that you can find "+" and "-" in seconds.

    greetings
  • #5 13285782
    EMdoWU
    Level 14  
    this is exactly this model, the description shows that it is an analog model and you need to find the plus and minus only to connect.
    http://www.cyfral.pl/files/Instrukcja_TCL.pdf

    I will add that there is a sticker on the camera: the tcl uniphone works with the digital switchboards td-3, td-4, td-6, CC.
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  • #6 13287603
    Ircys
    Intercoms specialist
    So let's go! :)

    Greetings.
  • #7 13291478
    EMdoWU
    Level 14  
    and how do I accidentally insert the + cable to - and vice versa I will not burn the device?
  • #8 13291612
    intertime

    Level 15  
    These cameras were also in the analog 6-wire version. If you are sure that only 2 wires were connected and it is a Cyfral installation, try, you will not damage anything.
  • #9 15085777
    Radzior91
    Level 2  
    Sorry to dig up the old topic, but I have a similar problem.

    The only difference is that the cable has 8 wires and two pairs are used.

    How do I find which ones should I connect? I have a meter there so I can check the voltage. Before disassembly, it looked like this:

    Cyfral 2-wire - 2-wire intercom, 6-wire cable, how to connect? Cyfral 2-wire - 2-wire intercom, 6-wire cable, how to connect?
  • #10 15086185
    karl102
    Level 28  
    You connect to the new one the same ones that were attached to the old one.
  • #11 15086299
    Radzior91
    Level 2  
    Golden Tip! Believe me, if I could, I wouldn't be posting on the forum :)

    This is the same intercom that was. As you can see, the cable broke off a bit behind the camera and I have no idea which ones were plugged in, so I was counting on some hints if it was possible (and if so, how) to measure which cables I should connect.

    The matter is even more complicated for me because the colors in the cable repeat (it is not a LAN cable)

    Moderated By suworow:

    Dear colleague !. It is the colleague who asks that it is the colleague's duty / in the interest to provide all necessary data in a clear and comprehensible manner. Please forgive your comments in the same way as above. Instead, I propose to read the entire topic. It contains all the information you need.

  • #12 15086775
    Radzior91
    Level 2  
    Dear moderator. Actually, my mistake. Earlier I read a similar thread and I got confused a bit.

    However, I did not find the answer in this thread because my question was
    Quote:
    How to find which (wires) should I connect? I have a meter there so I can check the voltage


    If I did something wrong, I apologize, but as you can see I am a relatively short user of this forum.
  • #13 15086854
    suworow
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    And the statement of my colleague Ircys contains an exhaustive answer to my colleague's question. If someone has doubled the wires going to a friend of the uniphone (two of them go to the same terminal), then a colleague is looking for two pluses and two minuses. (in a moment I will get a headache from my friends for lowering the level)


    Radzior91 wrote:
    If I did something wrong, I apologize, but as you can see I am relatively short user of this forum.!

    You're welcome. I think the friend will arrive :)
    greetings
  • #14 17075557
    gizmo.0
    Level 11  
    Good evening,

    I reheat the topic .. I bought a new intercom, digital 2-wire intercom .. Disassembling the old intercom, it turned out that there are more than two cables ..
    Cyfral 2-wire - 2-wire intercom, 6-wire cable, how to connect?IMG_201803...140524.jpg Download (2.76 MB) Cyfral 2-wire - 2-wire intercom, 6-wire cable, how to connect?IMG_201803...140529.jpg Download (3.82 MB)
    Can I count on your help in connecting? Is it possible to connect a new intercom at all?

    Thanks in advance for your help..

    greetings
  • #15 17075586
    Ircys
    Intercoms specialist
    gizmo.0 wrote:
    I bought a new intercom, digital 2-wire intercom .. Disassembling the old intercom, it turned out that there are more than two cables ..
    Is it possible to connect a new intercom at all?


    This uniphone does not fit your system. You have to replace it with, for example, Cyfral 5p.

    greetings
  • #17 17107502
    ghost2000
    Level 18  
    gizmo.0 wrote:
    I replaced the previous intercom with unifon5p, but I do not know how to connect the cables .. Maybe someone help in connecting?

    There were already hexillions of topics on how to locate the next veins. There is no point in re-writing it, unless someone wants to score points. So look in the archive. Only when the advice from the archive is not effective, write a new topic or refresh the old one.
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  • #18 17108753
    zybex
    Helpful for users
    gizmo.0 wrote:
    I replaced the previous intercom with unifon5p, but I do not know how to connect the cables .. Maybe someone help in connecting?

    Enter the type of the old one and how it was connected (cable colors and terminal numbers).
    You can always use the ready-made substitutes table at the end of this page. In addition, you have all the information on how to connect a new uniphone there.
    https://www.elektroda.pl/rtvforum/topic3289894.html
  • #19 17109172
    Ircys
    Intercoms specialist
    Connecting the Cyfral Smart 5p uniphone:
    MASS - blue
    RING - orange
    SPK- brown
    MIC- green
    SW1- gray
    SW2 - white

    ZW1, ZW2 and ZW3 jumpers - removed

    greetings
  • #20 17109699
    gizmo.0
    Level 11  
    Ircys, thank you so much for your help. The intercom works .. Thanks.
    The topic can be closed.
  • #21 18479263
    SzarmiBB
    Level 2  
    Hello,
    I'm sorry to dig up the topic, but I don't know where to ask. Namely, in my apartment I have cables from the intercom, but I do not have the earphone in the apartment (the previous owner took it) a cable with 6 wires comes out of the wall and I don't know what the hell to buy and how to connect it later, I throw a photo of the cables. from the left, gray (or very light black), white, blue, yellow, green, brown, from what I can see, probably only white and brown were connected. Can someone advise something about it? greetings ;) Cyfral 2-wire - 2-wire intercom, 6-wire cable, how to connect?
  • #22 18479594
    Ircys
    Intercoms specialist
    Provide a picture of the cassette you are calling from.

    greetings
  • #23 18479962
    jariko
    Level 17  
    go to your neighbor and take a picture on his earpiece.
  • #24 18483868
    SzarmiBB
    Level 2  
    Sorry for sticking this photo only today, but I just forgot to take a photo of the panel each time :D and as for taking a photo with a neighbor, it probably won't be that simple because they are practically the same elderly people who are not trusting about such actions ;) Cyfral 2-wire - 2-wire intercom, 6-wire cable, how to connect?
  • #25 18483878
    Ircys
    Intercoms specialist
    A suitable uniphone is, for example, Urmet 1132/620.
    As for the connection, it only needs 2 wires, maybe the ones you are talking about, but it is best to check it with a meter, because the polarity of the wires is important (+, -). We set the apartment number with bags.

    greetings
  • #26 18573286
    TAGBA
    Level 11  
    I will stick to the topic. Is it possible to use one earth cable to power the gate drive and Cyfral COSMO R 1 and simultaneously transmit sound to the Cyfral indoor unit. Will there be any disruptions?
  • #27 18573363
    Ircys
    Intercoms specialist
    TAGBA wrote:
    Is it possible to use one earth cable to power the gate drive and Cyfral COSMO R 1 and simultaneously transmit sound to the Cyfral indoor unit. Will there be any disruptions?


    They will

    greetings
  • #29 19543062
    Ircys
    Intercoms specialist
    90507 wrote:
    how to buy an intercom and how to connect it?


    You need the Elfon OP-U7 uniphone.
    Look with the meter on 2 wires for approx. 7 V. + connect to LU, and negative to GND.
    You set your apartment number with bags.

    greetings

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around connecting a Cyfral 2-wire intercom to a 6-wire cable setup. Users share their experiences and troubleshooting methods, emphasizing the need to identify the correct wires for power and signal. It is noted that the 6 wires typically include ground, signal, handset, microphone, and lock wires. Suggestions include shorting the "+" and "-" wires to find the correct connections and using a multimeter for voltage checks. Users also mention specific models like the Cyfral 5p and TCL uniphone, highlighting compatibility issues and the importance of wire polarity in installations.
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