A selection of bistable relays for hallway and stairwell lighting control

I would very much appreciate your help in selecting the most favourable solution for the implementation of the lighting control of the hallway (ground floor) - staircase - hallway (attic).

The lighting on/off would be realised as follows:
1. switching on/off only the lighting in the hallway on the ground floor (momentary switch in the hallway on the ground floor),
2. switching on/off the lighting in the entrance hall on the ground floor and in the stairwell at the same time (second momentary switch in the entrance hall on the ground floor),
3. switching on/off only the lighting in the first floor entrance hall (momentary switch in the first floor entrance hall),
4. switching on/off the lighting in the first floor entrance hall and the staircase at the same time (second momentary switch in the first floor entrance hall),
5. switching on/off the lighting in the hallway on the ground floor + in the staircase (one momentary switch in the hallway/mezzanine) and switching on/off the lighting in the hallway on the first floor + in the staircase (second momentary switch in the hallway/mezzanine).

Please give me a hint as to how such a lighting arrangement can be implemented using bistable relays.

Hi. Is there any installation already done or are the wires yet to be laid?

The installation is already done. The wires from the lighting points and the boxes (PK60) of the on/off buttons are led to the electrical board.

Well, merge in this board and you have a problem.

Yes, I would like colleagues who have or have done such controls to suggest which solution is best to use ?
Based on which relays?

ekmir wrote:

what is the best solution to use ?
Based on which relays ?

Hello.Solution recommended by relay manufacturer.Which relays-bistable.

Based on bistable relays, for TH 35 rail.

i've been reading about the various solutions people install in their homes and I've come to the conclusion that sometimes it's too much form over substance, because from what our colleague writes, we have 5 switches in 3 rooms

elpapiotr wrote:

Based on bistable relays, for TH 35 rail.

Very funny. Likes a Fellow to entertain like this ...

Are you expecting a commercial offer or an advertisement, my friend? There are many manufacturers, offers even more.

I would like to implement this via BIS-412. However, I wonder if I will still need to use SEP-01.
1 and 2 could be solved by one BIS-412 applied to hallway lighting (local control) and hallway and staircase lighting (central control). Analogously, 3 and 4 could probably be solved.
Only how to implement 5 ? There is still the problem of one and the other BIS-412 turning on/off the light in the staircase.

How to solve this ?

On the bis-412 you need TWO momentary switches for the central control.... and on yours you probably have one ?

Added after 1 [minute]:

Item 5 will be linked to items 1,2 and 3,4 at the same time

Bronek22 wrote:

I don't see how this can be done on "off-the-shelf pads" for 230V.

There is an option, but it will have one disadvantage....
It is possible to do all this on 4 ordinary bistable relays....

Integra is planned. However, realising this on Integra requires the use of actuators anyway.

If you are planning an Integra, after all, you have the INT-IORS module as an executive device (relay outputs) for ~230V control.

Yes, you can use the INT-IORS expander. However, in the event of its failure, we have no lighting in this part
For this reason, I am planning an STR-421 for local control of the roller shutters and an INT-IORS expander for central control.

Besides, in the case of controlling this lighting, the cost of the INT-IORS expander would be higher.

I don't really understand what the problem is.
From points 1-6 it appears that you have 3 "light points" (ground floor hallway, ground floor hallway and staircase) -> you can use the simplest 3 bistable relays, e.g. BIS-411 http://fif.com.pl/produkt/26/247;
Match them accordingly with single or double contact momentary switches:

Table created from the contents of post#1 (points 1-6)

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If the connectors are only single pin then you can for para. 2,4,5 and 6 use an additional two 2P relays for 230 V and double connections can be obtained on their contacts.

Yes, but what if the light in the entrance hall on the ground floor is on and someone leaving the halfway house wants to switch on the light in the cage and in the entrance hall on the ground floor (there is one button for this).... the light in the staircase will automatically switch on and the light in the hallway will switch off....

It is necessary to use 4 bistable and 2 electromagnetic.

EDIT
I am inserting a simple diagram of my idea, to my mind it should work as intended