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Ventilation control - radio relay with delay in the boiler room

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  • #1 14336251
    jacekgrab
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    I have a small problem, the air handling unit I have installed in the boiler room has a "venting mode" option that can be activated by a simple contactor. Short-circuiting two wires (connected to the corresponding inputs on the printed circuit board in the air handling unit) causes the air handling unit to go into ventilation mode regardless of the set schedule, opening it causes the air handling unit to return to the weekly programme. The whole problem is that the air handling unit is located in the boiler room and the switch which would be responsible for the conclusion of these contacts I wanted to place in the bathroom, and I did not physically run the cable under the plaster. I was thinking of a radio-controlled relay. For example, when I enter the bathroom, I switch on the button and it sends a radio signal to the relay in the boiler room to short-circuit the contacts of the control panel and switch on the ventilation mode; when I leave the bathroom, I switch off the button and the relay in the boiler room opens the contacts. I think it would be nice to delay the contact opening so that the control panel remains in ventilating mode for another 5 minutes after I turn off the button in the bathroom. Is there one device that will solve my problem? Or does it need to be done with a couple of devices?
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  • #3 14336465
    jacekgrab
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    Very helpful :) I generally posted on the forum because I thought someone would specifically give the name of the component or components possibly how to do it most simply, you think I didn't type that in googles? cool
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  • #4 14363994
    jacekgrab
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    I have put together such a circuit from various manufacturers, it is certainly not the simplest solution to this problem and I am not even sure if it will work. The circuit consists of:
    1) Two IB-007 radio switches placed in the bathrooms
    http://sklep.2rsystem.pl/-proste-sterowanie-b...ik-scienny-z-funkcja-zdalnego-sterowania.html
    2) A wireless switch IB-003 which receives the signal from IB-007
    http://sklep.2rsystem.pl/-proste-sterowanie-b.../11-bezprzewodowy-wlacznik-do-wbudowania.html
    3) Delay circuit CS3-4 only
    http://www.elektrobock.cz/pl/wy----cznik-czasowy-pod-przycisk/product.html?id=9
    4) Electromagnetic relay PK-1P
    http://www.fif.com.pl/produkt/1611/918

    In general, I have a few doubts:
    1) Isn't it overkill?
    2) In the CS3-4 circuit data it says it can power devices from 15 to 200W, it only powers a relay that is less than 15W
    3) I know there are time relays, but I have only found ones that start timing out after detecting the applied voltage, and I want the timing to start timing out after the voltage is turned off (the bathroom switch is off). But it would be nice if someone knew of one device that would fulfil the functions of CS3-4 and PK-1P
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  • #5 14365881
    pafciowaw
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    Dedicated timer PO-405 - http://www.fif.com.pl/produkt/36/585
    alternatively, the PO-415 can be used on a TS35 rail; build it together with a radio receiver in the boiler room and short-circuit the timer contacts with the dedicated ventilation control you mentioned in the first post.
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  • #6 14365997
    jacekgrab
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    In this circuit any current or signal can be applied to the output terminals? on the drawing it says L and N? is there galvanic separation as in an electromagnetic relay?
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  • #7 14366745
    pafciowaw
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    The contact is galvanically isolated (in the PO-415 version - manual), with PO-405 this is poorly drawn (not sure) but assuming it is a "free" contact it can connect any load and current polarity.
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