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Choosing Affordable SMD Soldering Microscope: Height, Optics & DIY Tripod Modifications

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  • #1 15100013
    MasMas
    Level 16  
    I am planning to buy a microscope for SMD soldering in small rasters, because it is more convenient.
    What do you think?
    Affordable price, I don't want to (and can't :) ) spend 2k on a microscope so I'm looking for something cheaper.
    I can see the glasses are upright, but it will work. The small working area is also not a problem, because I will cut the original tripod and make my own, for larger tiles.
    But is it suitable for soldering? Do you think that the height is enough to operate the soldering iron, and the optics provide a good view of what is being soldered?
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  • #2 15100242
    freebsd
    Level 42  
    MasMas wrote:
    You think the height is enough to operate a soldering iron
    Less than 7 cm is not enough. Sometimes you have to avoid some elements with the tip, when something is holding on with the other hand and the angles of the soldering iron can be strange. According to magnification is too small for me. See (magnification on the order of 30): http://jackiewiczowie.blogspot.com/2015/10/nokia-e75-naprawa-kamery.html
  • #3 15100360
    MasMas
    Level 16  
    As for the magnification, it seems ok to me. I have a small magnifier for PLN 4, which has a magnification of 10x, it is quite enough - unfortunately you cannot solder under it.


    Mh, and you can change the focal length quite simply so that it is more than 7cm?
    Actually, where exactly did you read that it was 7cm? Because I can't see it in the description.
    Ie. this is 67 as the working space, but it's probably in the XY plane, not the Z height (distance from plate to lens).
  • #4 15100476
    freebsd
    Level 42  
    MasMas wrote:
    Ie. this is 67 as the working space, but it's probably in the XY plane, not the Z height (distance from plate to lens).
    I perceived it just as the distance from the microscope table to the lens.
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  • #5 15121081
    introder00
    Level 9  
    why spend money .. I take my old Samsung Galaxy S3 with an 8px camera and 4.7 'display. :D The magnification is about 5-7x the resolution is satisfactory, the plate is constantly illuminated, what more could you want? Depending on the app, you can change the image mode, apply filters, etc. And the better you have a camera in your phone and more pixels, the better it looks.
  • #7 15302043
    MasMas
    Level 16  
    I personally bought this microscope from the first posts, TPL ICD 20x BINO and I am very pleased. I solder to a 0.5 mm LQFP raster and I don't regret a single zloty for this microscope.

    The 20x magnification is enough, there are no problems to put a soldering iron under it. If you have a larger PCB, you would either have to deal with such a modification as the post above (I only suggest leaving the lifting / lowering mechanism because it is very useful) or you just need to put something on the side of the microscope to put a plate on it and there is a git. I didn't do anything and it solders very well under it. If someone doesn't have several hundred to thousands for some expensive microscopes, this one is a pretty good choice. Pretty good enough, actually.
  • #9 15303189
    tplewa
    Level 39  
    MasMas wrote:
    I personally bought this microscope from the first posts, TPL ICD 20x BINO and I am very pleased. I solder to a 0.5 mm LQFP raster and I don't regret a single zloty for this microscope.

    The 20x magnification is enough, there are no problems to put a soldering iron under it. If you have a larger PCB, you would either have to deal with such a modification as the post above (I only suggest leaving the lifting / lowering mechanism because it is very useful) or you just need to put something on the side of the microscope to put a plate on it and there is a git. I didn't do anything and it solders very well under it. If someone doesn't have several hundred to thousands for some expensive microscopes, this one is a pretty good choice. Quite sufficient, actually.


    It is the working area in it that is the biggest problem, unfortunately you have to combine with the processing - unless the tiny plates themselves are soldered. As for the freedom of work of the soldering iron, what is the real distance between the lens and the PCB? and as with color optics distortions, etc.

    BTW. 0.5 raster, I solder a cheap magnifier without any problems ... and how does the work with, say, SMD 402 elements look under this microscope?

    On the other hand, for the price of PLN 160 and such a modification would pay off. I am only worried about this small distance and the lack of inclination of the head (rather not comfortable for work).

    @sender

    Can you link to the page from which you have photos?
  • #10 15392546
    MasMas
    Level 16  
    @tplewa I do not have a method of measuring the focal length now, because I recently took it apart to add such a bar (modification for larger tiles).

    But from what I remember, it will be about 6.5 - 7 cm, someone up there wrote that it is not much - but I do not know, it is enough for me. The smallest resistors I soldered 0805, it can be soldered without any magnifiers. I'm just starting out in SMD, so that's why I don't have experience with smaller ones.
    I think 0603 would not be such a problem. Unfortunately, I have not seen these 402 live, but in my opinion such a microscope is enough to solder the vast majority of things (I would say everything, but I have not seen everything yet ;) ).

    For future buyers, I will say this: if you work in the laptop or GSM service or you solder 8 hours from Mon-Fri, you should probably invest in a fully professional microscope at prices of 700-2000 PLN, with a large working area, head inclination and variable lenses for different magnification.
    However, if you solder a little less than 40 hours a week, go ahead and take this one. The lack of a slope does not bother that much, even after a few hours (although the neck hurts a bit). You could go on like that for two days. That is why I say that for hobbyists and even professionals who do not solder day after day, this microscope is enough.
  • #11 15637551
    MasMas
    Level 16  
    At the request of one of the forum users, I post a message here that I wrote back to him when asked how this microscope works, maybe it will be useful to someone in the future:

    I am quite satisfied, although I did some rework after a while.

    In general, the microscope itself is good, the magnification is ok (sometimes it would be even smaller, for example, for setting LQFP systems before soldering - although you can use such head magnifiers, they have around 5-10 magnification).
    The smallest chip that I soldered was the LQFP (and the 208-pin version in total) in 0.8mm raster. And other small elements as well (resistors, capacitors, transistors, etc.) - you know. And it works pretty well overall - at least it's enough for me.
    Like I say, a nice option would be to change the magnification - more expensive micro. they have something like this, but it is possible to survive.
    The microscope has a built-in lamp and it is quite useful - despite good lighting in the room, this lamp gives a lot. Adjusting the focus to quite a sufficient range. The height from the plate to the lens was also sufficient (i.e. vertical working space) - I had no problems with the arrangement of the soldering iron or something.

    The microscope, on the other hand, has one big disadvantage, which, however, can be completely eliminated with a modification. Ie its socket, and actually the fact that you put the PCB on its socket, and it is not very convenient. In addition, if you have a larger plate, then it's a micro stand. it can prevent you from moving the PCB over the lens (of course the PCB can be turned and you will probably get it on the other side - unless you have a very large PCB). But the problem is if you have some larger components already soldered on the other side etc - it's a bit inconvenient.
    That's why I made a modification consisting in the fact that the microscope stand can be unscrewed (with screws) from this stand - then you only have the microscope on a vertical rod and now I made something like that, that I took a piece (about 40 cm) of a steel flat and made such legs so that the flat bar is about 2-3 cm in the air. And now I screwed the microscope to the center of this flat bar - thanks to this, the plate can lie on the desk and it can now be moved freely without moving the microscope - in addition, max. PCB size depends only on the length of the flat bar you take. When reworking, you only need to choose the height well to have a focus adjustment range - I trimmed the tripod a bit (with a saw blade is enough) and on such a small angle grasp the microscope stand and a flat bar (everything sits firmly).

    To sum up - for the money I recommend it - it solders well under it and I don't complain - I only recommend doing this modification and then it is nice. Ev. a certain convenience that more expensive microscopes have is that the glasses are at an angle to the plane - then you don't have to tilt your head completely perpendicular and your neck probably hurts less. Although it is also possible to work with it for a few hours.
  • #12 15637681
    Ateis
    Level 13  
    Choosing Affordable SMD Soldering Microscope: Height, Optics & DIY Tripod Modifications

    This is my solution to the microscope spot problem

    The microscope is a Bresser Biolux ICD Bino

    I repair car electronics

    Is it good .... I don't know, I don't have a comparison :)
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  • #14 20381443
    jugo963
    Level 2  
    Hello, I'm writing here because I don't want to start a new topic and clutter
    I am starting my adventure with laptop repair, I am at the very beginning and I am equipping myself with the equipment that I will need.
    I'm thinking about buying a microscope, but I have too little knowledge of what I will need because I want to buy something that will serve me for a long time, the budget was about 1,000, but from what I see, it's hard to find good equipment for the money
    I intend to develop in this direction through training that some services offer and practice at home on scraps that I can buy / acquire
    I also want to buy something specific
    I already have all the rest of the equipment needed for repairs selected
    I thought about something like this, but I admit I would be satisfied with something cheaper
    https://m.pl.aliexpress.com/item/100500184206...3a4e1c120c5e1766735&gclid=&pdp_npi=2@dis!PLN% 212245.24!1908.45!!!!!@210321b416735292867405441e9229!12000023033397643!sea&curPageLogUid=ICnUjdutdx5k&algo_pvid=97600950-db8c-4f2d-bc95-b52d6d653b18&ad_pvid=202301120514468306204002896360001219650_4
    Well, most of them oscillate around the amount of 3,000, like this one here
  • #15 20382522
    tplewa
    Level 39  
    jugo963 wrote:

    I intend to develop in this direction through training that some services offer and practice at home on scraps that I can buy / acquire


    IMHO the training is g... worth it ;) Collect some junk, practice soldering and if you master it, it will continue to fly ;) Better to spend that money on equipment...

    jugo963 wrote:

    I thought about something like this, but I admit I would be satisfied with something cheaper


    Not electronic here. In principle, the heads in the microscopes are very similar and there is nothing to mess around with (e.g. overpay for some supposedly great company because you will buy the same thing in a different color with a different print paying for the inscription). The difference in price is mainly a tripod (probably due to the weight it increases the price the most) and additional equipment ... i.e. a camera, etc. You can let go of the camera because basically all that are in the sets are very poor ...

    Unfortunately, the VAT that came when shopping on Ali + the currently poor PLN vs USD exchange rate did its job and everything went up - so it's not as cool as when this thread was created.

    You can also combine as above, i.e. make a tripod yourself, but you have to think because if you don't have tools, it can cost more.

    The set you have chosen is ok, but if you want to save money, as I mentioned, you can buy a slightly poorer one, it is important that it is Barlow 0.5x glass. Camera and other extra lenses can be purchased at a later date...

    Take a look at this topic: https://www.elektroda.pl/rtvforum/topic3701122.html
  • #16 20383102
    jugo963
    Level 2  
    great thanks

    It's not really about that, but I'll ask
    These trainings always give a certificate, etc., which is always a sham when applying for a job in the service or not necessarily
  • #17 20384447
    tplewa
    Level 39  
    jugo963 wrote:
    These trainings always give a certificate, etc., which is always a shim when applying for a job in the service or not necessarily


    IMHO these certificates are worth as much as the certificate I can issue you here adding a potato seal to it :cunning:

    In most cases, for a person who employs someone, what matters is who can do what, or a clue may be a work certificate from some other company dealing with the service (i.e. that you worked for X years in some service).

    Let's put it this way, the work of a service technician requires some manual skills (soldering, etc.), analytical thinking and some knowledge of electronics. This cannot be achieved in a dozen or so hours of training.

    Such trainings may make sense in sharing specific knowledge about specific "tricks" in specific devices - but in principle I do not know whether they are created and whether websites share such raisins with other websites (such knowledge is an advantage on which you can earn more).

    btw, I've seen links about microscopes (I think AmScope) before...

    They are such better Chinese ones - when it comes to one, note that the set does not include the mentioned 0.5X Barlow lens (only 2X which is not very useful in the service). Also one model does not have a third channel for the camera. While the cameras added by the Chinese, as I mentioned, are poor and a waste of money, the third channel in the future may be useful to connect a better camera, camera, etc..

    If the price in pounds suits you, they can be. As I mentioned there are many of these kits and it's more about looking for something that will fit in your budget.

    Regarding these cameras, this is of course my opinion, I messed around with them a bit, including connecting them to the microscope, I bought, among others, 0.5X and 0.35X mounts (I mentioned 0.5 here https://www.elektroda.pl/rtvforum/topic.html p=19300569#19300569). Unfortunately, the effects are so-so and unfortunately the camera I have won't help much, and a good camera is basically the price of another microscope (for 4K it's around 2,000).

    Summing up the additional glasses and camera mounts, I collected a small cardboard box ...

    Choosing Affordable SMD Soldering Microscope: Height, Optics & DIY Tripod Modifications

    Finally, I use the mentioned Barlow 0.5X + glass of the WF10X / 20 glasses and the aforementioned 0.5X camera mounting thread. The 0.35X mount gives a larger area on the camera, but unfortunately with a very large vignetting - another thing, this area is much smaller than what we see in the microscope eyepieces...
  • #18 20384458
    jugo963
    Level 2  
    Thanks a lot for help
    I have already ordered from ali, only shipping is from a warehouse from Poland, so there will be no additional fees, so the microscope with a handle and fuckers what they add came out in reasonable money

    Added a link to what I bought
    Specifically, from this seller you have to click on good auctions because he has shipping from Poland but also from Spain and China
    With shipping from Poland it's 2.5 thousand but with a discount code it will be even cheaper

    https://a.aliexpress.com/_mKw7jme
  • #19 20384470
    tplewa
    Level 39  
    jugo963 wrote:
    Thanks a lot help
    I have already ordered from ali, only shipping is from a warehouse from Poland, so there will be no additional fees, so the microscope with a handle and fuckers what they add came out in reasonable money


    Cool :) I added to the post above what I specifically use when it comes to glasses - because I also experimented with it a bit and bought some glasses :)
  • #20 20583728
    bachin
    Level 18  
    Does anyone use this
    https://www.banggood.com/en/Andonstar-AD209-1...dering-Microscope-Phone-watch-Repai-p-1985979. html?akmClientCountry=PL&cur_warehouse=CN
    The question is whether or not to save up and buy one inch smaller screen
    https://www.banggood.com/en/G1600-9-Inches-La...00X-Continuous-with-LED-Highlight-Fill-Light- p-1948848.html?rmmds=detail-topright-recommendation&cur_warehouse=CN&ID=6295919&trace_id=78241684318161688
    It's only a PLN 104.64 difference, but is that extra inch really useful?
    I would love to read a sentence or two on how to work with such a microscope when repairing and soldering SMD.
    Can choose a higher camera resolution (e.g. this https://www.banggood.com/pl/HAYEAR-48MP-1080P...croscope-Camera-Big-Visual-Field-Manual-IRIS6 -60mm-Zoom-Lens-for-PCB-Soldering-Repair-p-1921289.html?cur_warehouse=CN)?
  • #21 20584379
    tplewa
    Level 39  
    Friend @slavo666 he did the Andonstar AD249S-M and Andonstar AD407 microscope test from the electrode, maybe something will help:










    Although IMHO here a lot depends on personal preferences, I do not like such electronic microscopes at all and I prefer optical ones. Although there are people who work under electronic.

    As for:

    bachin wrote:

    Can choose a higher camera resolution (e.g. this https://www.banggood.com/pl/HAYEAR-48MP-1080P...croscope-Camera-Big-Visual-Field-Manual-IRIS6 -60mm-Zoom-Lens-for-PCB-Soldering-Repair-p-1921289.html?cur_warehouse=CN)?


    these Chinese cameras do not have a given resolution for nothing and inscriptions like 38MP, 48MP are fairy tales of moss and ferns ;)

    What is the actual resolution of the matrices used, it is difficult to say because everything is interpolated. Here I gave examples of photos from a similar webcam and in this thread, apart from the discussion about optical ones, there is also some discussion about such cameras:

    https://www.elektroda.pl/rtvforum/topic3701122-120.html#20411538
  • #22 20585554
    bachin
    Level 18  
    Thanks, but I wanted to know if anyone has worked on it and is doing well on it, and which model, because the price is different. This 10 inch is decent, but it might save some money. Apparently PLN 100 is not much, but if there is no difference between one and the other, why spend it. Why don't electronic ones fit and what are better optical ones? I have a magnifying glass lamp with a large lens inside and a head magnifying glass, but my eyes are not the same and if I have to solder something, I will get tired. I thought that such a microscope would make my life easier. You don't need to put anything on your head, ordinary glasses are enough and in theory it should be better. I would love to read what major disadvantages optical microscopes have, apart from the price.
  • #23 20585796
    tplewa
    Level 39  
    bachin wrote:

    Why don't electronic ones fit and what are better optical ones?


    It's a bit like comparing the Ford T to the new Mercedes ;) The gap in favor of the optical stereo microscope is huge. There is also nothing to compare with some magnifying glass or glasses.

    In principle, this will be admitted by every person who had the opportunity to work on an optical microscope, if you have not had such an opportunity, it is difficult to even imagine.

    In the thread I gave above, if you read from the beginning, you will see because there was a discussion about electronic vs optical. In a way, it was created as a microscope review written by a friend @tomybb , however, over time it has developed quite strongly and raises various issues related to microscopes and available accessories for these microscopes.

    bachin wrote:
    I would love to read what major disadvantages optical microscopes have, apart from the price.


    This can be more related to electronic ones, in principle, their only advantage is the price ;)

    To tell the truth, I do not see any disadvantages, and compared to the electronic one, it has only advantages. Even the price can hardly be considered a disadvantage because the price-performance ratio is very good and better IMHO better than in the case of an electronic one. Another thing, even if you want to look for defects, here you have to take into account the specific configuration of such an optical microscope, i.e. what glasses, whether there are barlow lenses, etc. For example, for people wearing glasses, it should be equipped with other rubber shells put on the microscope glasses ...

    Among other things, the above-mentioned reasons do not suit me, and if I want to have an electronic one, I fire up the monitor and I also have an image on the screen ;) However, I hardly use this functionality due to the "so-so" camera.

    Now why I don't like the electronic one the most:

    - Lack of 3D and difficult to assess the real distance of, for example, a soldering iron from the element, so it's harder to coordinate hand movements with what you see. Of course, everything can be learned and practiced, but it is very unnatural.

    - The camera has limited dynamics, so sometimes it is difficult to set it so that the solders that reflect the light are not overexposed, and other elements are visible at the same time, i.e. properly illuminated. To sum up, the optics offer incomparably better quality of the image we see.

    In principle, it is impossible to describe or show it on the forum because the photo already introduces the above distortions ...

    Now why did I buy optical... actually also because I'm older and my eyesight is not the same. I decided that it's a shame to continue to destroy your eyes by working with magnifying glasses or staring at the monitor.

    As for work, maybe a friend @slavo666 he will come back and add something more to what he presented in the movies...

    I can be biased because when I tell me any work due to the difficulty of coordination of movements and poor camera dynamics made the work more difficult than easier.
  • #24 20586012
    bachin
    Level 18  
    Thanks.
    For me, the only major drawback of the optical one is that you need to have glasses overlays and look like in binoculars. I don't like it because it's tiring and I wanted to avoid leaning to the optical one (the electronic one doesn't have it, because the screen is large and you can set it as you like). As for the lack of 3D, I can get used to it, and from what I've seen, a 10-inch LCD and an electronic image are quite sufficient. The image does not have to be as accurate as in the optical one, but accurate enough to be solderable. Even if some elements are not natural, it doesn't matter at all. I'm thinking more about whether to buy the PLN 100 more expensive one, because it's 10 inches, not 9, but the question is, has anyone had practice with electronic soldering and is the difference of one inch so irritating?
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  • #25 20586201
    tplewa
    Level 39  
    bachin wrote:
    Thanks.
    For me, the only major drawback of the optical one is that you need to have glasses overlays and look like in binoculars. I don't like it because it's tiring and I wanted to avoid leaning to the optical one (the electronic one doesn't have it, because the screen is large and you can set it as you like).


    You see you haven't had a chance to work and are already looking for problems that don't exist :)

    When it comes to rubber shells, you do not need to use them stubbornly, and microscopes are offered with various shells. There are also many types of them and you can buy different ones. Here I drew attention to it so that it was known that when you have glasses you need to choose other ones, i.e. those that do not have side apertures.

    In the same way, there is no need to bend over, in fact it is hardly possible. Keeping the right space between the microscope lens and electronics so that you can work with tools, the microscope glasses are very high.
    You basically sit at the microscope with your back straight without bending over.

    bachin wrote:

    The image does not have to be as accurate as in the optical one, but accurate enough to be solderable.


    You know it's not about fidelity, it's just that in some places you have white spots (overexposed), and in the other black places (underexposed where you can't see anything). It all depends on the PCB, the color of the solder mask, etc. Some boards are better than others. This is what makes soldering difficult because you can't see what solder is, only a white spot, or you can't see something because it is underexposed ...

    On the other hand, you probably won't get questions about the size, because it would have to be a person who had both types of microscopes and soldered for a rather long time to draw any reliable conclusions. On the other hand, electronic microscopes are bought by people who limit their expenses, so it is doubtful that someone bought two.

    However, when you look at such a microscope, the bigger the monitor, the better. Some of these microscopes have an HDMI output, so the best solution is probably to connect a computer monitor anyway.

    Another thing, watch the above-mentioned videos carefully, because at the moment you have a problem with the diagonal of the monitor, which in the case of such microscopes is probably the least important thing, and you omit other issues that are more important ;)
  • #26 20586523
    bachin
    Level 18  
    OK, but the "fidelity" of the image from what I saw in the video is quite enough for me on the LCD, and looking through binoculars is avoided. You can also set the lighting differently and it's ok. In addition, you can look at the LCD from different angles and I like it very much, but I don't really like looking into the eyepiece of the microscope, because you always need to have only one position for that (the cervical spine sits on the several working hours). Probably the optical one is better, it shows the PCB better, but I don't have such high requirements. The video shows the PCB beautifully and there is even a large optical depth at ANDOSTAR, and that's enough for me. If the optical ones had a screen, i.e. a screen like in old cameras, it would be ok, but they don't have it. But from what I see ANDOSTAR with 10 inches will probably be the best option. Once it's a fairly well-known company, the second time it's a bigger LCD. Handiness is also important, because I will not always have to connect to a large monitor. I will also not spend on a 3-4k microscope because there is no need, I don't solder as often as I used to. I am looking for something handy, for not a lot of money, so that I can solder a prototype or repair damage, and magnifying glasses as I wrote are becoming more and more tiring. They will be a complement together with the microscope, because sometimes I have something to watch and I can see in the video that the microscope with the screen is much better than my loupes. I would gladly buy it with a better camera, but as you wrote, they are all the same, so the price and size of the LCD it matters.

    P.S. Finally, what is the difference between Andostar AD249S and Andostar AD209S? From what I can see, the tripod is a bit different, and the price, but the rest is probably the same. Maybe someone saw something, what is the difference between the two models.
  • #27 20586705
    tplewa
    Level 39  
    bachin wrote:

    OK, but the "fidelity" of the image from what I saw in the video is quite enough for me on the LCD, and looking through binoculars is avoided. You can also set the lighting differently and it's ok. In addition, you can look at the LCD from different angles and I like it very much, but I don't really like looking into the eyepiece of the microscope, because you always need to have only one position for that (the cervical spine sits on the several working hours).


    See, you're writing something based on fantasy again ;) If it were so, people professionally involved in repair would buy electronic ones, and this is not the case and the changes are rather the other way around. If someone had electronic, he changes to optical and does not want to go back to electronics.

    What is the difference, probably as it is with China not much. I would look for a tripod to offer the possibility of packing larger PCBs, which would not work out that you can only put tiny PCBs there. Although it depends on what is being soldered.

    From the electronic ones of this type, I would rather go to the Andonstar company, at least somehow proven. Other no name Chinese I would let go. It would be nice if it had an HDMI output.

    Possibly a set like from the third link, but not the one you mentioned. Here it is worth looking for which lens for such a webcam is best to buy, plus the purchase of an illuminator + an additional monitor. Summing up, a good combination can be more expensive than this Andonstar.
  • #28 20586713
    bachin
    Level 18  
    Andostar 10 inches is rather the only option, because it has 30cm from the top to the lens and image quality is sufficient for me. Maybe professional services prefer optical, but lcd is enough for me. I've seen how it works, I've seen what it can do, and it's too much for me. Maybe optical ones are better, but it's just like with a car. You don't buy a Ferrari if you want to drive 10 km to work every day, because the price is once and the problem with parking twice. And if you want to transport containers, you buy a truck tractor, not a used Matiz. :)
  • #29 20586724
    tplewa
    Level 39  
    bachin wrote:

    I've seen how it works, I've seen what it can do, and it's too much for me.


    Seeing in a movie and actually soldering under something are two different things. It would be best if you could test yourself somewhere if you can solder under it. Because it's not easy and it's very unnatural. Yes, it is probably possible because a person is able to get used to everything, I gave it up because for me it was a torture. And here it's not about image quality, as I wrote, because it's another problem that you can live with, only the lack of assessment as to the real distance of the tool from the element, etc., which makes precise work very difficult. It is also worth knowing if these models have glass lenses and this metal lens, because it may turn out that there will be a problem when using Hot-Air so as not to melt the lens.
  • #30 20587320
    bachin
    Level 18  
    All plastic, but you can roll the aluminum housing and blacken it. There is no place to test it, because no one will send me equipment that I can buy. Hence my posts. I'll wait to see if anyone shows up here who had or has something similar.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around selecting an affordable SMD soldering microscope, focusing on height, optics, and potential DIY modifications. Users express concerns about the working distance, with suggestions that less than 7 cm may be inadequate for soldering tasks. Various magnification levels are debated, with some users finding 20x sufficient for small components like LQFPs. Alternatives to traditional microscopes, such as using smartphones for magnification, are also mentioned. Users share experiences with specific models, including the TPL ICD 20x BINO and Andonstar series, highlighting the importance of working area and the ability to modify tripods for larger PCBs. The conversation emphasizes the balance between cost and functionality, with recommendations leaning towards optical microscopes for better image quality despite the convenience of electronic models.
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