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230V Automatic Alternating Switch for Two Fans in Transformer Ventilation System

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  • #1 15249375
    Anonymous
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  • #2 15249381
    12pawel
    Level 34  
    What's a fan that can't run all the time?
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  • #3 15250216
    xury
    Automation specialist
    A simple dial control will suffice. Plenty of these on the market.
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    andrzej lukaszewicz
    Level 42  
    Leaving that aside a bit, who took away your installation? And aren't you afraid that you may burn down your house, because by adding other devices you may unknowingly exceed the capacity of these transformers. The apparent savings of cheaply purchased equipment will be spent in a few years on losses in these transformers. An idea with no future, because when you start replacing worn out/damaged equipment, will you have to import it from the USA too? I sympathise.
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    Anonymous
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    vodiczka
    Level 43  
    janrajchel wrote:
    because the knowledge about 120V installation as you can see is alien to you
    Dear forum member, You are also alien . This is the first time I've heard that 230/120V transformers require forced cooling, in addition with a badly chosen fan because the right one "doesn't fit in the cabinet" :) You made a self-made monster, the remarks of Andrew Lukaszewicz you should take seriously.
    And AC control will be provided by any cyclic time relay that has NO and NC contacts. Most have such, e.g. the PCU-507 or the more sophisticated STP-541 controller
    See here: http://www.fif.com.pl/produkt/36/1197
    janrajchel wrote:
    The problem, however, is that there is, I have not found any such that would switch control between two fans alternately.
    This answer illustrates how poorly a colleague knows the subject he is trying to grasp - forced cooling (by operating two fans alternately) of three transformers enclosed in a cabinet.
    I wonder when the proverbial corpse will fall out of the cupboard. :cry:
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    Anonymous
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  • #8 15253623
    vodiczka
    Level 43  
    janrajchel wrote:
    ...nor are they the subject of at least this forum.
    And this is where your colleague is wrong - safety is paramount and the contributions of all electrode participants, both questions and answers, are judged against safety.
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    Anonymous
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    Anonymous
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    #11 15342006
    vodiczka
    Level 43  
    Erbit wrote:
    Apparently who assesses the "security of expression".... Who takes responsibility for this ?
    It is not the safety of the statements but the safe solutions, (in accordance with the art) that these statements concern. This is judged by the moderators as well as the rest of the forum. :)
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    #12 15344070
    Anonymous
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    vodiczka
    Level 43  
    Buddy, do you consider the critical remarks about three transformers in a cabinet cooled alternately by two fans (because one overheats and fails after a few hours) to be "wishful thinking" You don't need to be an expert electrician, just basic engineering knowledge to know that such a solution sucks....

    If you are stubborn, you can keep these transformers in a cupboard, but you just need to choose the right fan and add a few temperature sensors plus an automation system that will switch everything off when the temperature exceeds the permissible limit.
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    Krzysztof Kamienski
    Level 43  
    Off Top Small - Poor man, this ,,displaced man :D '' A year ago, on American ebay, I purchased a 25kVA 3 x 390 to 440 VAC (taps) three-phase transformer in its original housing for 3x220VAC with, curiously for the USA, both windings connected in γ. Since I have a 127/220VAC 60Hz installation here at my place, it was used to power a European printing machine in which several motors and inverters are, of course, 3x400VAC. It was more cost effective than replacing the inverters, as this transformer from second hand but in excellent condition cost - a bagatelle a whole $350. Oh and alternate fans are not required.
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    Anonymous
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    Krzysztof Kamienski
    Level 43  
    Erbit wrote:
    Yes, I believe that in this case you have no knowledge other than your "vision".
    Expand on the subject if you can. You should advise cooling the transformers in question with e.g. liquid helium, in order to achieve superconductivity and lossless operation ? Technical heresies continued ?
  • #17 15344397
    vodiczka
    Level 43  
    Erbit wrote:
    However, I will never dare to write that "forum solutions are safe because they are moderated by you and other forum members"
    do not put something in my mouth that I did not write/said. I said:
    vodiczka wrote:
    safety is paramount and statements made by all electrode participants, both questions and answers, are evaluated for safety.
    They are evaluated, which does not mean that some harmful advice will not slip through. Therefore, advice is accepted at your own risk (see rules and regulations) and even if your house goes up in smoke you can complain to the adviser and not to the electrode.
    You should know that it is easier to pick up a stupid/harmful statement than to formulate what the correct solution should look like. I don't have to be a car mechanic to know how to answer the question "can I drive with play in the steering wheel" whereas I do have to have the right knowledge to advise you on how to remove the play.
    Read post #1 and then post #4 with due attention and draw your conclusions.
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    Anonymous
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  • #19 15387889
    romulus73
    Level 28  
    Buddy, buy an ordinary findea time generator for the contacts of the valves you give one ven. to open the other cost 90 zł
  • #20 15387959
    vodiczka
    Level 43  
    The author of the topic bought the PCM-04 just over a week ago (post18) and if he caught the sale he paid under 80 PLN :)
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