Control of entrance gate, garage door and outdoor lighting with a single remote control

Hello, I am thinking about a project to control the entrance gate, garage and outdoor lighting with a wireless remote control. I would like to control these circuits separately, using one remote control (3 different buttons) to control the entrance gate, the gate from the garage and the external lighting. Of course, it would be possible to combine e.g. the external lighting with the garage door (using the motor control signal or signal lamp output here). It would be enough to use a relay with a time delay (so that the light remains on a while longer after the garage door is closed) but it seems to me a better solution to separate these circuits (why should the light come on when I open the garage door during the day?). I realise that you will need 3 radios of the same type so that everything works together. From my technical side there is no problem, but I would like to get your opinion, what solutions have you used? How do they work and would you change or improve anything? I mean, what brands of drive systems do you recommend, what type of radio receivers have you used? If you can give specific types, models etc. There is a lot of this on the market and I have no idea which brand to suggest. I would like to choose good equipment that works. Any hints and advice would be very helpful in choosing the right equipment.

And, of course, the light source would have to be LED lamps designed for outdoor use (appropriate IP rating), powered at 230V~.

Moderated By suworow:

I have merged the two identical topics of a colleague set up simultaneously in the security section and in the automation section. Please do not create two topics on the same issue again.

Hello I would do it on an arduino
Such a remote control and it's done
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then you can even do it on the pirogues as you wish (only your imagination is the limit). Unfortunately I do not know about the guides and drive systems themselves (i.e. which company is better and which is not) but I am sure someone will help you. for control I would use an arduino. Greetings

I solved it by buying an additional receiver for the entrance gate and fitting it to the garage door drive. The two systems are different, but have the same supply voltage for the peripherals.
As a result, I also control the garage door with one remote control from the entrance gate.
There is nothing to prevent the purchase of an additional receiver to control another device such as lighting.

The drive for the entrance gate already has a receiver, as does the drive for the garage. Therefore, you do not need 3pc receivers. You buy one or two....
Proxima has receiver models compatible with many drive companies. In addition, it is possible to configure the channels for bistable and monostable mode with a time delay adjustable from 1 to 999 seconds.

Marek J. wrote:

The drive for the entrance gate already has a receiver, as does the drive for the garage. Therefore you do not need 3pcs receivers. You buy one or two....

I wanted to be able to control both drives from the car with one remote control without unnecessary combinations. The remote control for the entrance door could not be programmed for the garage door. This made it necessary to purchase an additional receiver for the garage door in order to control the garage door from the entrance door remote control, so one remote control and two receivers.
This was the simplest and also the cheapest solution.

You are right, but perhaps SiwyGnO has an automation / radio from the same manufacturer for the entrance and the garage ( this often happens...) so just buy one radio and possibly 3 or 4 channel remotes. ( And of course an additional relay...)
For lighting, you can buy a two-channel receiver. It is not much more expensive and you will be able to have a greater combination of solutions using the 4 channel remote control....

Hello Gentlemen, thank you very much for speaking out on this topic. These are very valuable tips that have already contributed to some extent to my plan in my head. At the moment it is purely a project. In the first instance I am gathering valuable tips from people who have already been through this and can advise something and then I will proceed. It is useful to already have a plan of what to do and how to do it at the stage of building the whole driveway etc. I can share with you my thoughts, what I have come up with (based on your feedback of course). I would like to use the following solution:
- the radio controller for the entrance (sliding) gate will be the same as for the garage (sectional) gate. All done on a FAAC drive (reading the reviews on the internet, a larger group spoke positively about their drives).
Reviewing their offer and drives and, more precisely, their technical parameters, I chose preliminary drives and, consequently, radios. The same radio modules, i.e. XF 433, were used in both gates. Why the 433MHz modules, because 4 channel remote controls are attached to them, while for the 868MHz modules, 2 channel remote controls are attached. It seems to me that here the control problems I wanted to apply will not be
- As for the lighting control issue, I have looked at the PROXIMA offers as advised by Marek J. I have come to the conclusion that this can be done on a networked 2 channel LN-L radio controller:
http://www.proxima.pl/files/catalog_32.pdf
In addition to control from the 3rd channel of the remote control, I would do manual control via a doorbell switch in the house - bistable mode.
- I also have an idea to use the 2nd channel from this controller (controlled from the last 4 buttons of the remote control) to control the electric lock in the gate - monostable mode with time keeping, e.g. 5sec. + bell switch (as for lighting)

Of course, this is just my suggestion at the moment, perhaps I will come up with something else instead of the electric strike control. If you have any comments on my thoughts then please let me know, maybe something could be done better etc Every comment will be much appreciated. thanks and have a nice weekend

The idea of choosing Faac -good. The idea of XT4 remote controls not so much...(unless you buy some replacements). I think I'd already prefer FIX, even though it's not officially on offer....
But this is just my opinion...

It is also possible to take the XF 868MHz radio modules for these drives. And then purchase the XT4 868 SLH LR remote control(s) separately. I think that's it for FAAC operators (for the moment)...

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The idea with XT4 remotes is not necessarily ...(unless you buy some replacements)

Just to clarify - the remote controls are, to say the least, not very ergonomic, the buttons are hard to press - it is hard to hit the optimum point of the button (the idea of tilting the wheel halves is slightly misguided), the light in the remote control is almost invisible and the radio itself requires you to hold the pressed button (which is heavy) for quite a long time, so generally the finger hurts.

Exactly as kotbury wrote. It's about the design of the pilots, not the frequency. Besides, I don't think Proxima has any LN-L receivers on 868 SLH at the moment.

Marek J. wrote:

Exactly as kotbury wrote. It's about the design of the remote controls, not the frequency. Besides, for the time being, I don't think proxima has any LN-L receivers on 868 SLH.

Well... proxima has no receivers on 868MHz...Ok I think I know everything it's worth taking this into consideration! Thanks!

...He's glad he could help...

When buying a faac, you can dispense with radio receivers and remote controls and for this money buy a good radio, e.g. elmes for controlling drives and lighting.
You can then, at the same time as operating the entrance gate, switch on the lighting monostably (for a specific period of time) on the same remote control button (e.g. 1 channel). The second button controls the garage door and the third button is used to switch the lighting on/off in a bi-stable manner. The fourth button you have as a backup , e.g. to control the gate function of the entrance automat. If everything is sensibly wired, everything can be controlled from one convenient place from the point of radio wave propagation (not necessarily at the autamat on posts). Remote controls are cheap, durable and fairly ergonomic, although not very modern in design. The cost of such a 4-channel radio + remote control will be lower than the cost of a Faac radio alone. Here, a 4-channel + 16A relay + twilight switch in series with the lamps is recommended.

andrzej lukaszewicz wrote:

Buying faac you can dispense with the radio receivers and remote controls and for this money buy good radios e.g. elmes for controlling drives and lighting

Not quite so....Buying a Faac kit is cheaper than you would sum up the individual components. Therefore, when deducting the cost of the radio link from the price of the kit, the difference may not cover the price of the others as roughly half their value is deducted. As for Elmes, only the superheterodyne with large remote controls (small ones sometimes have problems with coverage) and, of course, an additional relay for lighting.

I don't know where you buy, but if I deduct the radio and e.g. 2 remote controls, I almost have at least 160-180 zł less. I never buy faac kits because it's not worth it, especially with the sloppy safebeam pics.
I've never had any problems with elmes small remotes, and I've installed quite a few. Quality is high in relation to price. In addition, a large range of other devices, such as high-current controllers, control of roller shutters, double bistable controllers for lighting, activation of alarm zones, etc. And all on one remote control.
There were no problems with fix 2, but fix 3 is crap, as is xt4. With faac LUX radios there are generally no problems, but I used to have problems using the wicket function, once in 10 times it would open both wings as it was only supposed to open one (in a specific location a warehouse at the back of a shop - no possibility of taking goods out onto the street when both wings were open). After several of my unsuccessful interventions, replacing with a second radio the same thing. (Time is money, declining image etc.... ) After fitting elmes the subject is definitely solved, no reports of problems for 3 years.
For simple applications, let there be a kit, but if someone wants to fiddle with controls, small logic, etc. then I recommend elmes.

Do some research on an off-the-shelf product of this type, i.e. a Somfy system, I know that BFT on the garage door or entrance gate side supports this project, regarding lighting they certainly have something too. You may have to use a smartphone app instead of a remote control.

Hello
There is nothing to combine on arduino additionally you have to program it. There are ready-made solutions at fairly criminal prices to this you have a guarantee.
The best thing you could do is to write or call this company: www.elpiast.com.pl for sure they will advise something. At my work their control system has been working for several years and there are no problems, I should mention that it works with the automation of large entrance doors.

PS. Slightly late:
Proxima has an LN on SLH 868 and also has these remotes.
http://www.proxima.pl/files/katalog-automatyka-bram-proxima.pdf
page 5.44

I think that bidding which radio is better and which is worse as far as the range is concerned is a bit pointless according to what my colleague Mareczny wrote... As fitters/service technicians we know that the range can vary (that is why I wrote about large Elmes remote controls, having DWB 200 in mind).
As everything is still at the design stage, we do not know where the receiver will be located to switch on the lighting, what is the distance from the entrance to the place of installation, what is the infrastructure....When it comes to functionality, it seems to me that Proxima is a good choice because:
1 - it offers receivers compatible with the majority of renowned automation manufacturers
2 - it has the possibility of any configuration of each channel TDJN, monostable with timer, bistable operation.
3 - it has versions for quite large loads (no need to use additional relays)
4 - power supply 12/24V ac/dc or 230V ac depending on the receiver
5 - has the possibility of connecting an external antenna
6 - has SMART technology (in selected receivers)
7 - low price (in relation quality/capability/price)
8 - POLISH PRODUCT
This is not a cryptocurrency but my observations as a freelancer who assembles/services a really wide range of automation systems from various manufacturers.
As far as Faac is concerned, as Mareczny wrote, 14 years on the Polish market (50 years on the Italian market and over 30 years on the European market) have already allowed for an objective assessment of domestic and non-domestic installers and users.
Every company has its pros and cons, more or less successful models. You could spend hours discussing what to choose, what is wrong with one model or another...
For the installer and the investor, it is important for a company to have tradition, experience, GOOD OPINIONS associated with the reliability of as many models as possible, as well as permanent representation with a service centre and warehouse in Poland.
Unfortunately, for all of us the increasingly important criterion for choice is the price, which has no right to go hand in hand with the quality of not only the product but also the warranty service and subsequent access to spare parts. It is well known that the quality of the products of well-known manufacturers has deteriorated at some point due to material savings. It is also known that many of them introduced "market" versions shooting themselves in the foot.... I will not mention the one-off retailers and their products from China....

As for proxima, I have a very good opinion, I confirm.