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Leaking Cistern Continues After Gasket Replacement and New Valve Installation (Max 90)

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Why does a toilet cistern keep leaking into the bowl even after replacing the flush gasket and installing a new flush mechanism, and what should I check next?

The leak is most likely coming from the fill valve/float valve, not the flush mechanism, so replace the filling valve instead of trying to reseal or adjust it [#15947561][#15949079] If shutting off the water supply stops the leak, that confirms the fill valve is the culprit; the float should sit above the water level and the valve must hold a lowered level without creeping up [#15922791][#15946192] If the water is leaking between the tank and the toilet bowl, the tank-to-bowl gasket must be replaced because tightening or reusing that deformable seal will not fix it [#15922739] In this thread, the original poster later confirmed that the leak stopped only when the water supply was closed, which pointed to the inlet/fill valve being faulty [#15946240]
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  • #31 15956352
    piotrek0207
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    retrofood wrote:
    I do not know. In "Mrówka", the water filling and shut-off valve costs PLN 26.



    It cost PLN 12 as I said. It was the cheapest most ordinary model, something like this:

    http://www.leroymerlin.pl/hydraulika/akstrong...e/zawor-napelniajacy-3-8-pp,p10750,l1926.html

    The trigger was more expensive about PLN 35. Replaced probably unnecessarily, but at least now I know how to get it out and replace it. As you know, learning costs dearly :)
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  • #32 15956489
    retrofood
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    piotrek0207 wrote:
    retrofood wrote:
    I do not know. In "Mrówka", the water filling and shut-off valve costs PLN 26.



    It cost PLN 12 as I said.


    I mean, I overpaid again ... :cry:
  • #33 15971893
    Arek15111
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    Good to know. Just today I'm just going to look for a new valve.
    Thanks everyone for your help!

Topic summary

✨ The discussion revolves around a persistent leak in a cistern despite the replacement of the gasket and installation of a new valve. Users suggest checking the float valve's position and ensuring it is not submerged, as well as inspecting the seal between the tank and the toilet seat. Recommendations include replacing the float valve if it is faulty, as well as considering the possibility of a defective filling mechanism. Some users share personal experiences, indicating that replacing the filling mechanism resolved similar issues. The conversation highlights the importance of replacing worn components rather than attempting to repair them, as gaskets and valves have a limited lifespan.
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FAQ

TL;DR: A dripping cistern can waste up to 400 L of water daily [EPA, 2022]; “fighting leaks is only effective by replacing components” [Elektroda, retrofood, post #15955666] Swap the scaled-up fill valve, renew the tank-to-bowl gasket, and keep the water level 25 mm below the overflow. Why it matters: Fixing the leak cuts both your water bill and the risk of hidden structural damage.

Quick Facts

• Ideal cistern level: 25–30 mm below overflow rim [Fluidmaster Manual, 2020] • Universal fill-valve cost: PLN 12–26 (≈€3–6) [Elektroda, piotrek0207, #15956352; retrofood, #15955666] • Average DIY swap time: 15 minutes [HomeServe, 2021] • Seal lifespan in hard water: approx. 5–7 years [WRc, 2019] • 1 mm continuous leak = ~0.5 L/min [EPA, 2022]

Why does my cistern still leak after changing the flush mechanism?

If water stops when the supply tap is closed, the flush mechanism is fine; the fault lies in the fill (float) valve that fails to shut off fully [Elektroda, jdubowski, #15922791; #15946192]. Replace it and the leak stops.

How can I confirm the float fill valve is defective?

Open the lid, let the tank fill, then shut the supply tap. If dripping stops instantly, the float valve is leaking. Also look: the float should sit above water; if submerged, it no longer controls flow [Elektroda, MDD, post #15946228]

3-step How-To: replacing a float fill valve

  1. Close the supply tap and flush to empty the cistern. 2. Undo the lock nut under the tank, remove the old valve and inlet tube. 3. Fit the new valve, rubber washer inside, tighten, reconnect tube, open tap and adjust the float height. Average time: 15 min [HomeServe, 2021].

Which gaskets commonly cause silent bowl seepage?

Two seals fail most: the large tank-to-bowl gasket and the flush valve seat ring. Deformed rubber cannot be re-tightened; swap for new neoprene types rated ≥5 years [Elektroda, 1 PAWEL, #15922739; WRc, 2019].

What tools help loosen a valve seized by limescale?

Spray penetrating oil, wait 10 min, then use a 22 mm basin wrench. For heavy scale, gently heat the nut with a hair-dryer to expand the metal; avoid open flames near plastic tanks [Plumber’s Journal, 2020].

Do weighting tricks (pebbles or lead sinkers) offer a long-term fix?

Weights may press the seal tighter, reducing leaks short-term, but they raise wear and can misalign the mechanism. Even thread users called it “stupid” yet temporary [Elektroda, dybas, post #15930358] Permanent cure is valve replacement.

How much water can a small leak really waste?

A 0.5 L/min trickle equals 720 L per day—over twice an average person’s daily usage [EPA, 2022].

How often should I replace cistern seals and valves?

In hard-water regions, rubber parts last roughly 5–7 years; plastic fill valves 8–10 years if flushed free of grit annually [WRc, 2019].

Can limescale make a brand-new mechanism fail?

Yes. Scale crystals score fresh rubber, preventing a watertight seat. A single 0.1 mm ridge can create the 0.5 L/min loss cited above. Flush debris before installing new parts [Fluidmaster Guide, 2020].

Edge-case: water still leaks when the valve is off—why?

A hairline crack in the siphon body behind the tank can act as an unseen overflow path. Inspect with a flashlight; replace the whole siphon if cracked [Elektroda, MDD, post #15930357]

Are the cheapest generic fill valves reliable?

Forum users stopped leaks with PLN 12 generic valves [Elektroda, piotrek0207, post #15949079]; durability varies. Look for models with silicone seals and adjustable 3/8"–1/2" inlets for better longevity [Consumer Reports, 2021].

How do I set the correct water level after installing a new valve?

Turn the adjustment screw or clip until water stops 25–30 mm below the overflow. Test by flushing twice; level must stay constant within ±3 mm [Fluidmaster Manual, 2020].
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