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Understanding Dual Channel Mode: RAM Memory Slot Colors & Configuration (A1, B1, A2, B2)

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  • #31 16248513
    iron64
    Level 41  
    If I can throw in a word.
    The memory has a 64bit bus, dual as it is easy to deduce 128bit, so for this dual to work, you need to use at least two bones for it, if you give one to cabal A and the other to channel B, you will not get 128bit but 2x64, which in this case is not the same because it is about the width of the bus.
    manufacturers give different colors of sockets for ease of use.
    These are general rules. There are, of course, exceptions, such as the dual channel on 3 memories, such as the mentioned NForce2. Tripple channel or quad channel is an expansion of dual channel and the principle is the same, the difference in the number of modules is obvious, probably?

    Maybe it will be easier for you to understand this.

    Thus, if in question 3 you give three dice, you will not have a dual channel (with exceptions), only 3x64 bits, i.e. the bus width will not change. Dual was invented to speed up operations on the ram, i.e. to increase the width of the bus (let's say it's a type of RAID0 only for memory). The example with disks is accurate because having two disks you don't have to make arrays and each of them will be independent. But when you create it, the disk operations will be faster, because only part of the data goes to disk 1 and the other part of the data goes to disk 2. So it writes more data per unit of time.

    I wrote in general, so please without making any exceptions or evidence. It is about a general principle and why the framework should be inserted the way it is.
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  • #32 16248701
    golec2604
    Level 16  
    No offense, buddy, but you know less about it than I did when I put it on.

    From wikipedia quote: Dual-channel architecture - a technology used in memory controllers to more efficiently handle RAM memory. It consists in doubling the data transfer capacity between the memory controller and RAM memory. The dual-channel technology uses two 64-bit channels, which together results in a 128-bit wide bus for data transfer between RAM and the memory controller [1].

    https://www.elektroda.pl/rtvforum/topic3302766-30.html
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  • #33 16250610
    iron64
    Level 41  
    However, you are completely deprived of the ability to understand the written word. EOT
  • #34 16250877
    deus.ex.machina
    Level 32  
    golec2604 wrote:
    I already said that I know that there are many possibilities, but the question I asked in the first post I had to present on an example, it cannot be presented on all examples because there are plenty of them. The physical arrangement of the banks on the dice on the disc did not interest me either, because the manufacturer designs himself. The most popular are boards with two modules per channel and three are not a problem. At the very beginning, I was only interested (on the example of a CD from the Internet marked with the colors of banks) about the division of banks into channels and color coding or names to know which to work with.
    I had two different thoughts. First, I thought that one channel is marked with one color, so when there was a pair of mods, if there was a dual channel, you had to plug it into two different colored sockets. Later, after reading something else, I came to a different conclusion that a given channel has two banks of different colors and in order for it to work dual, you need to put one dice into both banks, but in the same colors of the sockets. In addition, a certain manual for the motherboard confused me, and I read it in English, the markings were wrong in two places and I got a little water from my brain.
    Understanding Dual Channel Mode: RAM Memory Slot Colors & Configuration (A1, B1, A2, B2)

    Spoiler:
    You see him writing. The first to connect to channel A, put the dice in places A1 and B1 and the second is the same in channel B, put in places A2 and B2. And it's badly spelled because we don't put two memory dice in
    into one canal and one bone into two canals.
    It should be written to connect the first way dual channel should be inserted into sockets A1 and B1 and in the second way to sockets A2 and B2. Yes she washed it off.
    That's why I wanted to make sure what it was like here, that's why I asked a question.

    Now I know that in most discs the same bank colors correspond to two channels and that there are two banks for each channel. But it is known that all bank colors can be the same, and it is enough to describe A1, A2, B1, B2 or similar to distinguish which bank corresponds to a given channel.
    The end of the deliberation well lightened up.
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    I have other questions.
    1. In most boards there are banks described in the following way: Channel A slots A1 and A2 channel B slots B1 and B2 and writes that the duals should be combined in: A1 with B1 and A2 with B2. Ok, that's what I write in the manual. And now I wonder if he writes this for the peace of mind for the drummer to make it easier for the fitter to insert the bone correctly without thinking how to insert it.
    Because if I put one dice per canal, but in a different configuration, eg A1 with B2 or B1 with A2, there is also one dice per canal.
    Does it have any meaning for the work of the computer or will I put in the A1 configuration with B1 / A2 with B2 or with the A1 configuration with B2 / B1 with A2 ??
    Someone tested such a case ?? (well, I can't physically check)

    2. I was looking for information on single-sided and double-sided bones, but no one gave the difference between them in operation, the only information was that the double-sided one has more memory than the one-sided one because it has memory chips on both sides. I found nothing else.

    3.
    Quote:

    There are boards that you have symmetrically arranged banks on both sides of the CPU. Alternating stacking is not an option because the controller (which you are still negating)

    This sentence seems endless to me, you must have thought more than written :)


    Beating foam - it depends on the capabilities of the RAM supporting chipset and the chipset control and initialization software - some of them have the ability to address complex memory configurations and more than 2 banks.
    It has been written many times in this thread that you have to read the motherboard instructions and follow it - there is no guarantee in terms of naming (A1, B1 etc) or colors.

    Two channels means that the memory works in two parallel channels - this allows you to double the memory bandwidth (similar to RAID 0), as long as the transfers are aligned and successive (one by one with a linearly increasing address).
    In the past, similar functionality was achieved by interleaving memory modules.
  • Topic summary

    The discussion revolves around the understanding of dual channel memory configuration in motherboards with four slots, typically color-coded (e.g., red and yellow). The main inquiry is whether two slots of different colors represent separate channels, and if dual channel operation requires identical memory modules to be installed in corresponding slots. Participants clarify that dual channel architecture allows for increased memory bandwidth by utilizing two 64-bit channels, effectively creating a 128-bit data bus. The configuration can vary based on motherboard design and memory controller capabilities, with some boards allowing for mixed memory configurations. The consensus is that to achieve dual channel operation, at least two identical RAM modules must be installed, one in each channel, typically in slots of the same color as indicated in the motherboard manual.
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