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Renault Zoe 22kW Electric Car Charging: Cable Diameter, Type, Voltage & Protections

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  • #31 19797518
    KonradGatek
    Level 29  
    wnoto wrote:
    In the event of a power outage, PSE has several mechanisms to avoid a system collapse.

    The Swedes said they would provide Poland with the capacity available from the oil-fired power plant in Karlshamn.
    https://www.rp.pl/biznes/art19172611-polska-m...iekszyc-import-pradu-pomogli-szwedzi-i-niemcy
    wnoto wrote:
    Blackout is not that easy.

    If they weren't there, you'd have been home for a long time.
    https://businessinsider.com.pl/gospodarka/kry...edzi-uruchomili-rezerwowa-elektrownie/xdxvxqb
    wnoto wrote:
    For example, I have 12kW of power. And about 10kWh of daily consumption. I can download it in less than an hour. And the remaining 23 hours, the entire network is wasted for me

    I will take water from you with a connection power of 1000 l / min. Yes for 0.001 seconds. Your network will be wasted even longer.
    wnoto wrote:
    The G12 tariffs are already lame. Ultimately, they will be dynamic. If there is little power in the network, it will be expensive and the power consumption automatically decreases.

    In Podlasie, suggest that they will look at the meter before they turn on the washing machine. It will display transitional, capacity and fixed fees. They will count themselves whether it pays to do laundry now.
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  • #32 19797531
    wnoto
    Level 34  
    KonradGatek wrote:
    wnoto wrote:
    In the event of a power outage, PSE has several mechanisms to avoid a system collapse.

    The Swedes said they would provide Poland with the capacity available from the oil-fired power plant in Karlshamn.
    https://www.rp.pl/biznes/art19...pradu-pomogli-szwedzi-i-niemcy


    And it is very good that you showed it as an example. That's what the neighbors are for.
    This is just one of the mechanisms I wrote about. There are a few more.
    "I recommend that you regularly follow the PSE website, you can clearly see the energy flows in every direction. This is why this system works in such a way as to fill the shortages in this or another country on an ongoing basis. We regularly" save "the system in the Czech Republic, Slovakia and Lithuania and often in Sweden as well, so when electricity flows to us from there from time to time, it's perfectly normal. "

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    KonradGatek wrote:
    wnoto wrote:
    For example, I have 12kW of power. And about 10kWh of daily consumption. In less than an hour, I can download it. And the remaining 23 hours, the entire network is wasted for me

    I will take water from you with a connection power of 1000 l / min. Yes for 0.001 seconds. Your network will be wasted even longer.


    Exactly - it's a waste of resources.

    Added after 3 [minutes]:

    KonradGatek wrote:
    wnoto wrote:
    The G12 tariffs are already lame. Ultimately, they will be dynamic. If there is little power in the network, it will be expensive and the power consumption automatically decreases.

    In Podlasie, suggest that they will look at the meter before they turn on the washing machine. It will display transitional, capacity and fixed fees. They will count themselves whether it pays off to do the laundry now.


    Not. That's what slot machines are for. Of course not for everyone.
    We currently have the G11 - Fixed Price
    and G12 for those who can use it.

    We can create a G27 for those "who can count quickly" and will be able to respond to changes.
    You look through the prism of the washing machine - this is a mistake - although it can also be programmed.
    But there are galvanizing plants, aluminum and copper smelters. A and boilers at home, 100-200l each. There is something to optimize.

    PS A and, of course, chargers for electric cars - a huge potential for stabilizing the network.
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  • #33 19797552
    William Bonawentura
    Level 34  
    wnoto wrote:
    The G12 tariffs are already lame. Ultimately, they will be dynamic. If there is little power in the network, it will be expensive and the power consumption automatically decreases. Someone has to pay for it. Companies will now pay because individuals have government control.


    There will be no regulated tariffs in two years. The meters are successively replaced with "online" models. Top In 5 years we will all be buying energy at an hourly price. And the night one will not be the cheapest. It is during peak PV hours that the market will price energy to a minimum.
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  • #34 19797604
    wnoto
    Level 34  
    in 5 years ... it seems impossible. But time will tell.
    We do not have so much PV to lower the price so much. Additionally - as they write it, they do not give the same amount of electricity every day :) The fact that it can overlap with windmills and then prices on the stock exchanges drop.
    In the South, it is also easiest to make a large demand ... as long as the network holds up - but then there will also be an investment impulse.
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  • #35 19994199
    kb9
    Level 10  
    Summing up, I understand that it is the safest to lay the 5x10mm2 cable in the future.
    The question of a wire or a cable - the author of the question has probably not been answered and I am also interested.
  • #36 20009394
    ro-x
    Level 14  
    How are you going to arrange this cable? In plaster? In the ground? Surface? In the trough? The rope is more expensive and harder to lay in the plaster, and it is not suitable for the ground. Generally, installations are made with wire. Unless specific conditions justify the use of the link.
    Without knowing the situation, no one will answer. But the electrician who will perform the installations will definitely choose the right one.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the electrical installation for charging a Renault Zoe electric car with a maximum power of 22kW. Key considerations include the selection of cable diameter, type, and necessary protections such as overcurrent and residual current devices. Participants emphasize the importance of having a suitable power supply, with a recommendation for a 5-core cable, typically 5x10mm² for three-phase charging. The conversation also touches on the need for a compatible charging station or adapter for the Type 2 (Mennekes) plug, and the implications of power availability in residential areas, especially with the increasing adoption of electric vehicles and heat pumps. Concerns about the electrical grid's capacity to handle simultaneous charging demands are also raised.
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