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Peugeot 3008 1.6 THP Engine: Odma Modification, Intake Channels & Turbine Valve Issues

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How can I modify the crankcase breather on a Peugeot 3008 1.6 THP to stop oil mist from entering the intake, and will it work long term?

Block the breather line to the intake manifold, block the connection at the turbo inlet, and route the valve-cover breather outlet under the car through a corrugated hose; the original safety valve can stay in place [#18386184][#17481406] The reason for doing this is that the factory breather sends a lot of oil mist into the intake, which then coats the intake system and, on a direct-injection engine, leaves deposits on the valve stems and inlet channels [#19444185] The poster reported that after the modification the engine stayed dry, no leaks or fault codes appeared, and after about 40,000 km there were still no winter problems [#18165162] The only practical warning given was to route the hose with enough slope so water does not collect anywhere and freeze [#18165162]
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  • #31 19444185
    Przemo1194
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    If it were only gases, then there would be no need to rewrite the pneumothorax. The problem is that large amounts of oil are released in the form of oil mist, which passes through the entire intake system and is then burned.

    In addition, the engine has direct injection, so an additional problem is that there is a sinter of oil (coming from pneumothorax) on the valve stems and in the inlet channels of the head because only air flows there and not the mixture that washed this section of the system as in old gasoline.

    I leave the matter of the flow meter because it is not in this engine.

    A few months ago I was working on a pneumothorax in 1.6HDi because the oil was dripping from the intake system and the engine had just 50,000 driven. km. and it wasn't turbo's fault.

    greetings
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  • #32 19445071
    16thp
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    I will modify the pneumothorax.
    0.7 L of oil for about 1000 km. Oil on the valve cover. It's hard to start the engine after a long idle time. Now, after parking the car, if it has to stand for more than 5 hours, I cool the engine down (the car runs at low speed for about 2 minutes and fires like new.
    Pszemo1194 you are great.
  • #33 19532760
    romek1115romek1115
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    Hello, I have the same problem, an oily line and oil consumption. I would like to order such modifications. Recently, I did a continuous route of 2700 km, I added about 1.25l of oil on the entire route. It was the cheapest Full Synthetic 5w30 because I knew it was getting something. Przemo1194 where do you live? I need to redo it and I have concerns whether I will do it as it should be. Possibly someone present will undertake it? I'm from the area of Tarnów. Greetings to all forum members.
  • #34 19532813
    mentalius
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    Gentlemen, I do not contribute to the topic because I sold my 308 1.6 THP with great joy. Let me just mention that a moment before the sale I replaced the valve cover with a new one, but here I also made a modification, namely into the gas and vapor inlet which is in the cover, I put two wires into the pots that did a great job and captured the oil vapors very well and condensed back to the engine by gravity. Thanks to that, the cable that goes from the cover to the turbine was dry. Nevertheless, I diagnosed myself with the problem of flushing the oil on the rings and personally I did not want to break the engine to do it. Someone else has already taken care of it? Let me just add that the modification was also applied to the old valve cover with the gas output to the atmosphere.
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  • #35 19536365
    romek1115romek1115
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    Hello everyone, today, to be sure, I checked the compression pressure and the result of 16bar is practically minimal differences on each cylinder (a bit strange when the service shows 11-14bar) I will add that before changing the oil, I did a rinse, maybe that's why this result. It is possible that in my case it is enough to change the oil to the target good oil deal with the pneumothorax to further reduce oil loss.
  • #36 19542492
    mentalius
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    Unfortunately not. Here, oil consumption is dictated not so much by its "burning" in the cylinder or the low Noack index (evaporation rate), but by the design of the rings, which were assumed by the manufacturer, due to its concept of the lowest possible rolling resistance. Rings are available for purchase, and more precisely a set corrected by the company from what I remember well Mahle. Instead of the OEM oil ring which consisted of a very delicate spring placed in a ring with drainage holes, which for a moment burnt and lost its properties, Mahle replaced this structure with an oil ring consisting of a traditional "harmonica" and it does its job. In addition, one should also mention the very quickly hardening valve seals, which release oil in huge amounts, which may manifest itself in e.g. oiling / clogging of the exhaust valves (a typical defect of BMW engines - in fact it is a BMW engine: code N14B16), which should also be replaced if someone will be having fun replacing the rings and removing the head. In addition, when the engine is ripped out, the cylinder honing should be done because it is very delicate and the oil has nowhere to stay on the cylinder bearing surfaces to fulfill its role. Their stroke was not too big because it also leads to oil loss and few people remember about it. If you do all this, plus the modification of the pneumothorax, or as Przemo wrote, you can reduce the consumption of the lubricant to zero.
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  • #37 19767682
    aksel7774
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    Does the modification work
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  • #38 19768127
    16thp
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    The replacement of the covers from Allegro helped; the engine was dry.
  • #39 20342945
    eryk0403
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    Hi everyone, I looked out of curiosity what kind of patent it is for this unfortunate pneumothorax? We reworked this engine from A to Z, so as I can see here some people don't feel up to such a modification, maybe you will be close enough to me. I invite
    Moderated By T5:

    regulation 3.1.10

    , there you will find all contact and address information? We have a very nice patent, but personally I would add a catch can, because not everything will be separated by this sponge, and why bother with ecological problems later??
  • #40 20425205
    t14041974
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    Hello. A very helpful topic. However, I have a problem with the vacuum created by the intake in this tube on the left. I disconnected the tube from the cover (I didn't change anything in the cover) and I didn't block the outlet with anything and the engine started throwing me a little. I read somewhere that this suction (quite strong) "draws" oil and lubricates the top. I also noticed that my valve began to slap during my attempt. Can someone explain it better. Like in BMW, connect this outlet from the cover in a way before air filter? Can you mount a suction pump?
    I'm interested because it bothers me that from time to time the engine has some slight vibrations at a standstill and I'm trying to get an oil catch tank because there is a lot of water and in winter it smokes the most compared to others.
  • #41 21196594
    Przemekparaszczak
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    I have a question, przemo, Did you use a finger cutter to make a hole through? Please reply.
  • #42 21196617
    Przemo1194
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    as you can see in the picture. I have made an isthmus like this but from what I remember it makes a small hole in the lid but it doesn't really matter.
  • #43 21196955
    Przemekparaszczak
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    So I don't need to make a hole at all?
  • #44 21205972
    benio123
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    I have this question. If one buys a new cover with a new air purge will the oil burning problem go away? Or will it not change anything?
  • #45 21220483
    Wydra9
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    Hey can such problems also occur in 1.6 VTI? I recently replaced the valve cover with a new one because the old one was leaking terribly and before that it was drawing oil I can't remember but about 0.2 per 1500km, now the car draws 1l per 1000km and I wonder if the new cover has caused me to draw oil through the air purge.

Topic summary

✨ The discussion revolves around modifications made to the Peugeot 3008 equipped with a 1.6 THP engine, specifically addressing issues related to the odma (PCV) system, intake channels, and turbine valve faults. Users share experiences of significant oil accumulation in the intake system, leading to power loss and engine performance issues. Various solutions are proposed, including the installation of oil catch tanks and modifications to the valve cover to prevent oil vapor from entering the intake. Participants discuss the effectiveness of these modifications during winter conditions, concerns about ecological implications, and the legality of releasing vapors into the atmosphere. The conversation also touches on oil consumption rates before and after modifications, with some users reporting improvements in engine dryness and performance.
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TL;DR: Owners report 40 000 km trouble-free after the THP crankcase breather reroute; "Dry engine, no leaks" [Elektroda, Przemo1194, post #18165162] The DIY fix blocks the intake ports, adds a metal-wool separator, and vents gases via a corrugated hose, cutting oil mist and valve deposits.

Why it matters: Less oil in the intake means fewer misfires, cleaner valves and lower fuel use.

Quick Facts

• Long-term test: 40 000 km without new leaks [Elektroda, Przemo1194, post #18165162] • Reported oil carry-over after mod: 0 mL in 30 km check [Elektroda, mentalius, post #17495066] • Typical oil loss before mod: 0.7 L per 1 000 km [Elektroda, 16thp, post #19445071] • New OEM valve cover price: approx €120–€150 (PeugeotPartsPriceList 2023) • EU law forbids atmospheric crankcase venting (Reg. 715/2007)

What problems does the 1.6 THP crankcase-breather (odma) cause?

Oil mist enters the intake, coats valves and intercooler, lowers power, and raises oil use—up to 1.25 L in 2 700 km [Elektroda, romek1115, post #19532760]

How does the modification work?

It seals the two factory breather outlets, adds metal-wool inside the cover to separate oil, and routes fumes through a 22 mm corrugated hose under the chassis [Elektroda, Przemo1194, post #17331182]

Can you outline the steps?

How-To:
  1. Pry off plastic lid; grind a channel and insert metal sponge.
  2. Remove orange membranes, seal left outlet, and plug turbo pipe.
  3. Attach corrugated hose to right outlet and secure downward [Elektroda, Przemo1194, post #17331182]

Could freezing block the system and raise pressure?

Yes. A kink or water pocket can ice over, causing crankcase over-pressure and leaks as warned by szymitsu21 [Elektroda, 17481138]

Is atmospheric venting legal?

No; EU Regulation 715/2007 requires closed crankcase ventilation. A catch-can routed pre-turbo keeps compliance [EU Parliament, 2007].

How much oil consumption improvement can I expect?

Users report drops from 0.7 L/1 000 km to <0.2 L/1 000 km after the mod plus valve-seal check [Elektroda, 16thp, post #19445071]

Will simply fitting a new valve cover solve the issue?

A new cover restores stock PCV but does not stop oil mist; some owners still see loss of 0.7 L/1 000 km [Elektroda, 16thp, post #19768127]

Is an aftermarket oil catch-can a better option?

A baffled catch-can (e.g., Mishimoto) before the turbo traps >90 % of oil particles and remains road-legal [Mishimoto Data Sheet 2022].

Does the mod affect the turbo or MAF sensor?

The THP lacks a MAF, so no sensor issues arise; sealing the turbo pipe prevents oil pooling in the compressor [Elektroda, Przemo1194, post #18386184]

Do 1.6 VTi engines suffer similar breather issues?

Yes. After a new cover, some VTi owners report jump from 0.2 L to 1 L per 1 000 km, suggesting excess draw-through [Elektroda, Wydra9, post #21220483]

What if I skip drilling the small hole in the lid?

Przemo confirmed the hole is optional; the metal-wool channel alone suffices for drainage [Elektroda, 21196617]

Which failure signs mean rings or valve seals, not PCV?

High cold-start smoke, oily plugs, or compression >16 bar yet high consumption point to stuck oil rings and worn seals [Elektroda, mentalius, post #19542492]

Where should I route the hose?

Run it straight down, away from driveshafts, with a constant fall to avoid water traps—"keep falling so that no water can collect" [Elektroda, Przemo1194, post #18165162]
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