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Peugeot 3008 1.6 THP - Odma - modification

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  • #1
    Przemo1194
    Level 7  
    Hello.
    I'm from 2014. holder of the Peugeot 3008 with 1.6 THP engine which is hailed as the average opinion and has a few weak points. I decided to describe in this topic how I dealt with the dash / separator in this engine.
    With 180,000 I decided to do a motor review because I had a significant power drop and a slight jerking which was caused by a large choke in the intake channels and a turbine valve fault. However, after removing the intake manifold, I was disturbed by a large amount of oil (it did not come from a turbine) and throttle on the throttle. After dismantling all the elements of the intake and valve cover I came to the conclusion that the cause lies in the odcept which is integrated with the valve cover. I decided to do something to prevent the vapor system and oil from getting into the intake system, especially when direct injection does not wash the suction valves on which everything is deposited and after a long time causes problems with the engine.
    Two wires come out of the valve cover. One of them is directed to the intake manifold and the other to the pipe before the trubo. The modification is that I have blinded the lead wire to the suction manifold and the tube to the turbo. I undressed the lid and rearranged it, blinding one exit and on the other I put a peszel (as a cord) and led it because the car. It is difficult to describe but I took some photos during this work.

    1 - This is what the cover after the "detachment" of the plastic cover and the round lid looks like.
    Peugeot 3008 1.6 THP - Odma - modification

    2 - I removed a piece of plastic and made a channel using a finger grinder.
    Peugeot 3008 1.6 THP - Odma - modification Peugeot 3008 1.6 THP - Odma - modification

    3 - The valve on the left side of the lid (rectangular socket) I took out and cleaned and pasted so that it would not pass through.
    Peugeot 3008 1.6 THP - Odma - modification

    4 - The valve on the right side took out and removed the lighter in which it was located to provide greater freedom of gas flow. I took the picture before removing this slot.
    Peugeot 3008 1.6 THP - Odma - modification

    5 - As a vapor separator, I used a dishwashing sponge (from metal chips) which I freely put in a place from which I removed a piece of plastic.
    Peugeot 3008 1.6 THP - Odma - modification Peugeot 3008 1.6 THP - Odma - modification

    6 - To bind the sealing masses of the victory rantz I have put in a cut of the cover and the entire plastic cover. It is good to take the wire straight away because I later have limited access because the connector is covered by the cover. I used a regular conduit (corrugated pipe) due to the thin wall and thus a small outer diameter in relation to the inner (22mm).
    Peugeot 3008 1.6 THP - Odma - modification

    I removed two orange membranes from the cover (one from underneath and the other under a plastic round lid).
    Since the modification I beat 2 thousand. km. The engine works nicely, does not take oil, no errors in the computer. From the wire that led out of the cover, it got a mist, but without oil!
    I decided to open this topic and get to know all the opinions about this modification.
    If someone decides to carry out this modification, he does it at his own risk.
    Greetings Przemek.
  • #2
    lukasz12345678910
    Level 29  
    How it works is cool, only one thing. What will be like these chips freezing in the winter?
  • #3
    Przemo1194
    Level 7  
    I was thinking about whether there will be no problems in the winter, but it is in the lid so warm gases will appear quickly and secondly I left the original safety valve.
  • #4
    Mrhpmrowa
    Level 8  
    Nothing will freeze :) Why not an Oil catch tank? eg Mishimoto or some separator?
  • #5
    mentalius
    Level 7  
    And as you are currently doing your modification because I am trying to do the same.
  • #6
    szymitsu21
    Moderator of Cars
    In the long run, it does not make sense in my opinion.

    In the crankcase, there will be low overpressure instead of underpressure. Oil leakage / pick up will start. Not to mention that almost 100% of the first frosts and it will freeze.
  • #7
    mentalius
    Level 7  
    How should hypertension prevail as you did on the right side despite the blindness of the back exit of the pneumothorax. So in my opinion this overpressure will go down from the right side by p-shela which is attached to the valve on the right.
  • #8
    Przemo1194
    Level 7  
    The engine will not be under any pressure because the gases that accumulate in the crankcase have a free outlet to the atmosphere. This solution was used in engines 30 years ago and they can work to this day. Currently, I am waiting for frost to check if something freezes. Generally, I do not know what is in my filter from the "sponge" because I would have to undress and check everything, but if something can freeze only there, but will it cause her immorality? He left the original safety valve, so if something froze, nothing should be wrong with the engine.
  • #9
    Staszek49
    Level 35  
    In previous cars I was also doing this, but before each technical examination I removed the modification. So I will ask how it is for "ecology" and whether a diagnostician who detects such a patent may "not give a stamp" in the registration dossier.
  • #10
    Przemo1194
    Level 7  
    I will say this stamp so I got no problem because the engine from the bottom is just dry and the pipe from the odma is not hanging loosely, it is attached and at first glance it looks like a factory. And last time I did a foreign diagnosis and there were no problems. And as for ecology it is a bigger sin to drive without DPF and loaded "virus" to make the engine work.
  • #11
    mentalius
    Level 7  
    Przemo, can you throw in a photo how does this blind valve look like, which place replaced the pshelka?
  • #13
    mentalius
    Level 7  
    Hello all. Today I made the same modification as Przemo. I will mention that the modification Przema gently remade, namely from the bottom of the cover where we have such as rectangular gas inlet from the connecting rod there, I additionally placed "oil vapor catcher" in the form of a wire brush, and unlike Przema, I left a small round eraser. The rest remains the same as my predecessor. Since the modification today I tested 30 km and found that after removing the hose from the right side of the mouth of the odmie channel, there is no oiling of the channel, which oil vapor leads through the tube which is in the intake. After passing this distance I literally took out the tube and put a finger there and then I found that it is dry :) Tomorrow I am going to Lodz for training and so 290 km one way, also a battle test for processing. I will pass the report on my return, where it will be almost 580 km :) Many greetings and thanks to Przemo for the idea and technical and substantive help
  • #14
    stas2005
    Level 2  
    Hey,
    how did the modification work in the winter and how is it doing now?
  • #15
    Przemo1194
    Level 7  
    Hello, the modification works great. Dry engine, no leaks, in winter there are no problems, only when laying the corrugated pipe, you have to keep falling so that no water can collect anywhere. Recently, I checked what the intake looks like (I cut the rubber hose between the engine and the intercooler) and it was perfectly dry and clean.
    I have done about 40,000 cars since the modification. km.

    I am currently preparing to change the intercooler for a larger one and a chip tuning because it can not be hidden that the factory map a bit silent.
    greetings
  • #16
    Odki_
    Level 1  
    mentalius wrote:
    Hello all. Today I made the same modification as Przemo. I would like to mention that I modified the Przema gently, namely from the bottom of the lid, where we have the rectangular gas intake from the crankcase, where I additionally placed the "oil vapor trap" in the form of a wire for pots, and unlike Przema I left a small round eraser from below. The rest remains the same as my predecessor. Since the modification today, I did 30 km test and found that after removing the hose from the right side of the pneumothorax outlet channel, there is no oiling of this channel, which oil vapors leads through the tube that is in the inlet. After covering this distance, I literally took out the tube and stuck my finger there and then found it dry :) Tomorrow I am going to £ód¼ for training, so 290 km one way, also immediately the combat test for conversion. I will report on returning where it will be almost 580 km :) Warm greetings and thanks to Przemo for the idea and technical and substantive assistance





    Hi and how is everything working? I am going to undergo the same modification tomorrow.
    Best regards.
  • #17
    rzenek1
    Level 9  
    Hello, I am very interested in the subject of reworking the 1.6 thp pneumothorax
    in 3008. I am in the process of changing the timing (amateur, automotive enthusiast), I have a car literally a few days. After not easy removal of the valve cover, I saw a lot of butter with oil and the subject of pneumothorax became very timely. From the description of the modifications, unfortunately, I can't figure out how to do it, and I can't open the chamber where the modifications are made.
    Could any of the participants of the topic contact me by phone or email. Zenon zeros(malpa)op.pl 604161034
  • #18
    ak4777777
    Level 11  
    dig up some tamat,

    I will be doing similar modifications additionally mounting BMW end caps to the rear (cover-collector connection) and mounting Oil Catch between the cover and the turbo. I also want to mention the bad ones under the lid and here a question for you (especially Przemo) how to open this lid? did you cut it off or normally tear off this lid to separate it
  • #19
    Przemo1194
    Level 7  
    The manufacturer does not anticipate disassembling the valve cover, so it must be pryred and should slowly release. The factory is heat-sealed and releases here.
    Regards
  • #20
    koziarzumyslu
    Level 2  
    Why, question, and the pneumothorax tube coming into the cover on the left connected back to the cover? and what did you do when you let the conduit on the right down, and what about the connection of the exchanged turbo tube you blinded?
  • #21
    Przemo1194
    Level 7  
    The cable between the cover and the intake manifold has been thrown away and the connections sealed.
    I did not want to throw any fumes into the intake system, so the conduit on the right led under the chassis and the connection which is next to the intake pipe from the turbo (with a plug and two wires) is plugged.

    PS this short tube (in the inlet just before the turbo) with the plug to which two wires are connected is the vapor heater. In my case the plug is unplugged because I don't need it anymore. After ignition, 12v appears there.
  • #22
    koziarzumyslu
    Level 2  
    what about the vapors then what is happening to them? Which way are they leaving?

    Added after 3 [minutes]:

    I mean the cable on the left is the output for the engine in picture 1 whether this cable is plugged in or you plug the cable and the input
  • #23
    Przemo1194
    Level 7  
    In the first picture, the output from the left is blinded, and the cable from the right also introduced vapors and released into the atmosphere
  • #24
    koziarzumyslu
    Level 2  
    thanks for your interest this week I will start working
  • #25
    rtvb
    Level 10  
    Will any of your colleagues undertake such modifications? I live near Olkusz
  • #26
    mazi0000
    Level 21  
    By law, you cannot release pneumothorax vapors into the atmosphere.
  • #27
    Przemo1194
    Level 7  
    once it was possible now, but the question lies in the separator, if it cleans oil vapors well, steam is mainly emitted from pneumothorax.

    PS.DPFs should also not be cut.
  • #28
    rRua
    Level 1  
    Przemo1194, I have a question for you and for others who have applied your modifications, that nobody mentioned what amounts of oil extraction are we talking about? How much oil did you take before the modification for 1000km?
  • #29
    Przemo1194
    Level 7  
    hard to say because some time has passed and I don't remember anymore, but the deposit was definitely not at the level of 1l / 1000km.

    Now I have about 0.7l at 5000km (11bar compression on each cylinder)
  • #30
    piotr32
    Level 14  
    I wonder why to discharge the gases from the crankcase to the outside to the atmosphere, and not to direct them in front of the turbine, anyway, there is an appropriate connection there. It is true that this may affect the flow rate, but it also affects. Can someone answer me? I can treat eco-logical matters a bit neglectfully, but I do not like the solution proposed here due to ecology.