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[Solved] Huawei B2368-66 Router: Seeking User Experiences & Compatibility with External Modems

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  • #1 17397278
    damianekm1112
    Level 8  
    Hello, as in the topic, has anyone tested this router with an external modem and can write something like it works?
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  • #2 17397511
    matek451
    Level 43  
    So far, the device is not worth attention. The problem is that there is no competent person in Play who knows something about it. In the theory of LTE12 cat, it aggregates like 3 LTE bands. Users, however, will not check it, the WebUI in it is not very intuitive, and it does not show which bands are aggregated. It does not allow you to select a specific LTE band or bands for aggregation. The omnidirectional antenna in it is another failure. While the hardware is in theory not bad, the soft is a failure for now and this determines the success of the equipment. Users report problems with it and simlock on it. Play introduced technically advanced equipment to the market, but without professional support for it, what Mr. Gruszka presented yesterday on FB with his colleagues is embarrassing. Stupid PR will not replace professional knowledge and equipment. If Huawei doesn't do anything about it, it will probably be a failure. A much better choice is the B715 and the directional antenna, the B715 works with the HManager. In it, you can select specific LTe bands and bands for aggregation. The directional antenna allows you to select the BTS Play with the lowest load if there are several nearby in different directions. The idea of CPE LTE itself is correct, but so far the devices suffer from childhood diseases. http://www.bez-kabli.pl/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=53163
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  • #3 17397583
    tomekq54
    Level 2  
    I have a question of mothers,
    I am green in the subject, and I need a net to go home via a mobile network - the location is Chotomów near Legionowo (05-123 Chotomów, ul. Leszczynowa No. 22).
    What will work there? I was thinking about netbox play with this latest modem / router but you write that it's a waste of money.
    I don't know anything about these antennas, modems, bts, etc.
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  • #4 17397618
    matek451
    Level 43  
    From tomorrow there is a new offer http://www.telepolis.pl/wiadomosci/nowa-oferta-play-internet,2,3,43417.html, but still poor and expensive for me. I use the Free LTE Internet service without a limit on RBM on Karte 5, cost PLN 5/15 per month without a contract, my own equipment. NetBox version 2, i.e. Huawei B2368-66, problematic so far. In this location, operators must be tested on their cards and LTE phone with the Network Cell Info application. It will show eNB, BTS ECI and signal parameters. Plus speed tests. Range in Play from Chotomowa-Partyzantow 2 but only on LTE1800 and LTE2100. Other Play BTSs with a complete set of LTE2600, LTE2100, LTE1800 and LTE800 bands and their aggregation are Olszewica Nowa and Legionowo-chimney PEC. Equipment with LTE-A and directional antenna required. at netWorks, i.e. Orange and T-Mobile, coverage from BTS at Partyzantów27, everyone has their LTE2600, LTE2100, LTE1800 and LTE800 with aggregation there. Other BTSs are Targowa in Legionowo with these bands or Skrzeszew with LTE1800NW and LTE2600, LTE800 each of them. A subscription with no data limit in T-Mobile costs PLN 49 with DL up to 20Mb / s or PLN 65 with DL up to 60Mb / s. The subscription price includes a router with LTE-A that aggregates 2 LTE bands, i.e. B525. Better and cheaper than in Play.
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  • #5 17397639
    tomekq54
    Level 2  
    is it better to buy your equipment or with a subscription with tmobile?
  • #6 17397666
    matek451
    Level 43  
    I do not know, for me Play in aggregation LTE2600 + 2100 + 1800 reaches over 200Mb / s at night 100-150Mb / s at night, I have BTS outside the window9 400m), it is unloaded, I have been using DIL for 58 months. I even use 1TB of data per month for PLN 5 / month, so it is obvious that I chose the RBM offer for Card 5 without a subscription and I always buy the equipment myself. If I used the subscription, I would choose T-Mobile with B525 from them because there is no other option. A router is always worth PLN 250-300. at T-Mobile there are two weeks for testing. But the choice of operator must always be preceded by tests, mobile internet works differently. The operators do not guarantee range or speed. Much depends on the location, hence the recommendation is to use LTE and NCI telephone for outdoor test. It is a very good diagnostic tool to consider among operators. Pre-paid cards or those already in the phone, minimal costs.
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  • #7 17397682
    tomekq54
    Level 2  
    What router and antenna would you recommend? Because I would rather buy my equipment

    Added after 1 [hours] 30 [minutes]:

    The closest I have is bts on Partyzantów 2, I will probably test the t-mobile and the B525s router. What would be the best external antenna for this router and bts?
  • #8 17400482
    damianekm1112
    Level 8  
    eh, that is, the next dump, just like idu odu with cp, they also sell here and they do not know what, the router may be good but without an external modem it is worth nothing and this external modem can actually collect signals from everywhere and all the time lose and find and the internet still does not the massacre will improve :( . I do not understand why operators do not use the simplest solutions, but combine and sell crap. There is an action in the play that they put transmitters and that they need to lease plots for them, I recommended them all the plots I had and rejected them, and they were really in places where their signal is weak and there was always a negative response, so I don't understand why they need this campaign?
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    #9 17418456
    pepisz
    Level 1  
    The Huawei one in Play has a blocked PLMN and it is not possible to use cards from other networks. A competent gentleman from technical support said that the router does not have a sim-lock, but the routers have it that it is not possible to switch to other networks. I do not know what the difference is that there is no sim-lock and it is blocked anyway.
  • #10 17441113
    interlocator
    Level 8  
    Quote:
    for me, Play in aggregation LTE2600 + 2100 + 1800

    @ matek451 , and what router allows such aggregation of 3 bands? I really need something like this, and the ones that I find so far (e.g. B715) do not allow any combination ...
    I will be grateful for your help!
    Adam
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    #11 17442117
    matek451
    Level 43  
    I use the MF980 + Xiaomi 3G set myself. The MF980 is an LTE-A router with aggregation of 3 LTE bands, you select aggregation bands in the WebUI. MiFi works as an LTE-A modem and is connected via USB 3 to Xiaomi 3G which acts as a router. On Xiaomi, official FW changed to Padavan or OpenWRT. On the official FW, it does not support ordinary, HiLink and MiFi modems.
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  • #12 17445386
    interlocator
    Level 8  
    @ matek451 thanks for the info! There is some combination with this ...

    And is there any modem + router in one box that can aggregate 1800 + 2100 + 2600 at a reasonable price?

    EDIT: in the sense of "stationary", "not mobile"

    greetings
    Adam
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  • #13 17446563
    Jeziorko
    Level 15  
    I recommend the Huawei 525. I bought one myself (PLN 300 for a new one) plus an external antenna (PLN 140). Works ok in DIL Play.
  • #14 17459819
    Fixer24
    Level 9  
    Hello, a week ago I signed a contract with Play for 200 GB at full speed and I took the Huawei B715 router for an additional PLN 249. I have not checked what bands it connects to, but at night I get a little over 100 mbs of download, and the smallest value I have measured is 25 mbs of download around 8pm, I am also happy. I'm just wondering whether to change to 300 gb because the financial situation is similar, but I would have to change the router to B2368 and this is what puzzles me the most. When it comes to band selection, I have never done it and I don't know how it would work with this antenna. I have a transmitter in sight, less than 1 km and 5 signal lines.
  • #15 17459966
    Jeziorko
    Level 15  
    What is the cost of this subscription?
  • #16 17460151
    Fixer24
    Level 9  
    Jeziorko wrote:
    What is the cost of this subscription?


    Everything on the Play website. Monthly subscription PLN 70 for 200 GB or PLN 80 for 300 GB, plus an activation fee and a possible router fee.
  • #17 17461628
    interlocator
    Level 8  
    And one more question, is this "landline socket" in B715 from PLAY is it a GSM or VoIP gateway?
    Someone may have tested it?
    greetings
    Adam
  • #19 17462589
    interlocator
    Level 8  
    Thanks to everyone for the info.
    After analyzing the entries in this and other threads, I bought a Cybertech 17 dB 1800-2600 antenna (https://www.cybertech.com.pl/p173,antena-dualna-lte-a-4g-17dbi-mimo-1800-2600mhz. html). (Of course, after testing with the old E5372 modem without an antenna placed on a stick outside :) The antenna works great (I RECOMMEND) and now I have a very good range in the 1800, 2100, 2600 bands (talking about Play) - for example, for the 2100 band, a real signal increase by about 10dB compared to the E5372 modem on the stick) What it gives a transfer of about 10-30 Mb / s on each of the three above-mentioned bands, of which the 2100 band is the most stable and has the largest upload.

    Since I'm using a fairly old modem, I don't have bandwidth aggregation on it. Besides, this modem has a built-in wifi function, but it is quite unstable and does not cover the whole house. That's why I connected it to an old desktop computer and then with an eth cable to the wifi router. I bridged the interfaces in the computer). The whole structure works great, but it is quite crude, so I look for a stationary router that has: wifi, LTE cat> 6 and preferably a GSM gateway (it breaks voice connections at home).

    @lake he wrote:
    Quote:
    I recommend Huawei 525. I bought one myself

    If you believe the table in this thread: http://www.bez-kabli.pl/viewtopic.php?p=568952#p568952#p568952, B525 will not allow me to sensibly aggregate the 2100 bands (which for me is the best in terms of stability and upload) so it rather falls off. From here, I will most likely change to the B715. I hope that it will additionally allow me to connect a landline to GSM ( @ matek451 I understand VoIP functionality is cut, not GSM?).

    Thanks to everyone for your help and if you had any advice (e.g. something better than B715 from Playa) - listen carefully!
    Thanks for all your help so far!
    Adam
  • #20 17577048
    maxim2002
    Level 13  
    Hello,
    Does anyone know what POE power supply the ODU (antenna) has? Has anyone tried to connect it bypassing a plastic IDU (router) directly to the existing infrastructure?
  • #21 17611753
    BikeBarian
    Level 24  
    maxim2002 wrote:
    Hello,
    Does anyone know what POE power supply the ODU (antenna) has? Has anyone tried to connect it bypassing a plastic IDU (router) directly to the existing infrastructure?


    I stick to this question. I would like to mess with a different router, simplify the network etc. I have a PoE adapter from TP Link for 24V 1A, but I can't find any information about the power supply parameters of the ODU B2368. In addition, I checked the original power supply and it gives 12 2A, so it must be 12V 1A minimum on the ODU.
  • #23 17611795
    BikeBarian
    Level 24  
    Thanks for the quick reply. This changes the shape of things a bit.
  • #24 17617680
    maxim2002
    Level 13  
    Personally, I tested the replacement of this plastic IDU with a POE power adapter. It works without any problems on the power supply from the kit (12V). There is one but ... Contrary to appearances, these IDUs are not a router but the most ordinary switch with POE. The entire router is in the antenna and such a replacement does not do anything. We are still working on the same poor interface.
  • #26 17619387
    damianekm1112
    Level 8  
    IDU ODU sets are usually like a router outside the buildings so that the range is better and the wi-fi receiver is inside. I found out why this technology is used and not another because there are better methods of obtaining coverage, but not in Poland.
    You can use external antennas to improve the range, it turns out that you cannot do it in Poland. Any amplification or redirection of the signal, whether LTE or GSM, is strictly prohibited, there is a risk of a fine in the form of a fine, and if you do, you do not even use imprisonment.
    Therefore, CP and Play propose the idu odu method due to the constant lamentations of people that their LTE coverage is too weak. Otherwise, they can't improve range except to build the transmitter close to the delinquent.
  • #27 17619486
    matek451
    Level 43  
    Integrating the LTE / 3G modem with the antenna is not a Polish invention, it is a standard construction of external access points and not only LTE. Used for a long time in 2.4 and 5GHz networks and this is the optimal solution, there is no better. This avoids losses on the antenna cable, which has high attenuation at high frequencies. All electronics, including the system responsible for creating the network, i.e. the router module is located in the ODU and then the Ethernet cable, on which there is no signal loss up to 100m. Power via POE. In the case of B2368, Huawei went even further because it added to the CPE an internal IDU module with AP with a Gigabit switch and POE power supply to the ODU. An alternative are LTE-A and LTE routers to which external antennas are mounted using 50Ohm coaxial cables, but this causes signal losses on them. External access points for 2.4 and 5GHz have effectively replaced router + external antenna solutions in Wifi networks and this will also be the case in LTE technology. Huawei's solution is not perfect so far, but the idea is right, especially for people who are looking for solutions such as turn on and use. Advanced users use effective directional antennas, good short antenna cables for them and use optimal bands and BTSs. As for CP, it uses completely different solutions, ODU has tragic zero-gain PCB antennas integrated with the LTE-A modem. One 75Ohm coaxial cable goes from the ODU, shared with satellite TV. ODU also powered by him. The router, AP and LAN switch are located in the IDU. The set works effectively only at short distances from the BTS, especially on LTE1800 and LTE2600, due to the use of weak antennas in the ODU. In Poland, it is allowed to use passive amplifying devices in GSM networks, i.e. external antennas, the use of GSM repeaters is forbidden.
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  • #28 17640412
    Jack84_PL
    Level 1  
    I have it near Nałęczów (lubelskie voivodeship)

    My parents' download and upload is 75mbps / 20mbps at the height of the 1st floor. In my case - 2km further and higher by a good 3m, only 35mbps / 12mbps. But interestingly, the ZTE MF283 + at my parents' location achieves the same speeds in Play.

    However, as for the location "at my place", Huawei is at the top of the electric pole outside. However, in the house in the attic, I have a FritzBOX 6890 from Orange and it achieves the same speeds even though it is under the roof (made of tar paper and full formwork). And it must stand centrally in the center of the house, because under the window, from which there is a straight line view of the Orange transmitter, there is only a paltry 10/3.

    So as for the fact that there is a non-directional modem with an antenna - that's probably fine for a layman. It is enough to go out to the balcony on one side of the house and on the other, test the speed and install. Because, as the example of Orange shows, band aggregation judgments are not examined. And BTS maps are often not up-to-date and reliable.

    The included cat 5e 10m cable works flawlessly. But when I connected my 20m, despite the fact that cat.6, the router was constantly resetting (with a frequency of 15 times per 10 minutes. I do not know how with the thickness of this cable, but I assume that since it was cat 6, theoretically it should conduct PoE better. A but no. It is quite strange that its length was far from the maximum for the PoE standard. This is the main problem, because I thought that I would pull the router to the box at home with a cable. But I couldn't. I did not test other cables, because now it is mounted in such a way that it is impossible to enter the modem without the climbers.

    And actually the massacre menu, and somehow as if there is only access for a super user, not a total admin to the settings. I would even say that half of it is great.
  • #29 17829072
    losiu20
    Level 10  
    Hello, I have followed the thread regarding the Huawei NET BOX and I have a question. Wouldn't the ZTE NET BOX WF830 be better for my location? I have 2.5 km in a straight line to the Play transmitter, the house is on a hill, the transmitter is obscured by trees.
    The current set I have one line of range all the time, the speed is about 40 Mbps, it is not bad but why not be better.
    The installer from Play said that it is enough to put the antenna on the gutter, not better to get 2m on the balcony?
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Topic summary

The discussion revolves around user experiences with the Huawei B2368-66 router, particularly its compatibility with external modems and performance in various locations. Users express concerns about the router's software limitations, including a lack of intuitive WebUI and issues with band aggregation. Some recommend alternative models like the Huawei B715 and ZTE WF830 for better performance. Users also discuss the importance of external antennas for improved signal strength and the challenges of using the B2368 in rural areas. The conversation highlights the need for thorough testing of mobile internet options based on specific locations and signal conditions.
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