Plus LTE Huawei b535 poor coverage. Antenna selection or operator change?

Hello,
I have just extended the contract with the operator (Plus) and replaced the router from Huawei b315 with b535 in the hope that the performance will finally improve.
Unfortunately, as it turns out for nothing, because the new router itself rarely uses aggregation and the rules work on the 900 band (sometimes it will turn on aggregation of the 900 + 1800 band). The router (my location is Zamienie 05-300, ul. Lesna 33) is still connected to BTS, which is 4.9 km away from me (Mińsk Mazowiecki Gen. Kazimierz Sosnkowski 34) (I have one BTS closer to 3.3 km ( Glinianka Rzakta 82) but the router does not catch it at all, probably through the forest that separates us.
Help me choose an antenna or help me connect to a closer BTS, or choose an operator who will be able to provide me with a more stable and efficient link ..

The idea of blindly replacing the router to improve coverage in advance was doomed to failure. From the beginning of the contract, it was necessary to purchase an antenna for B315 and conduct tests on it. Plus, it is not an innovative operator, LTE900 was launched on 5MHz instead of LTE800Sferia and it works the same, which is usually tragic. This range band is narrow and usually clogged. There is hardly anything to count on the LTE1800 in such conditions at home. The LTE900 + 1800 aggregation is not much different from the LTE1800 itself. Perform LTE900 and LTE1800 band tests on B315 or B535 by forcing them with LTEWatcH, show results and speed tests. Don't count on much, it's a Plus. the decision to continue the contract with him rashly, in React NetWorks with LTE1800, LTE2100 and LTE800 Orange and T-Mobile. All operators also in Minsk on Sosnowskiego, but there NW and Play have a set of 4 LTE bands with their aggregation, Plus only LTE1800. It also has LTE1800 and LTE900 in Grzebownik.

I will do all the tests when I get home from work.
I still have time to terminate the contract, so even if we do not solve this problem with the antenna, the change of operator comes into play. (about a week)

Today my friend lent me two SMA antennas, but these are not external antennas, so they probably won't work. Don't pay attention to the stand, I will connect these two antennas directly to the router.


archiwum.allegro.pl/oferta/antena-dual-4g-lte-30dbi-huawei-e3372-e5373-2xcrc9-i5611685085.html

A colleague threw away a lot of money for something that is hard to call an antenna, is electro-waste with a gain of several dBi (3-5), is to work in the 1800-2100MHz band, RG174 cables with a length of 5m are attached to it, the attenuation of such cables at about 2GHz is 2dB / m. The signal loss on the 5m cable will be about 10dBi. So in fact it is a silencer, not an antenna. Of course, you do not connect it to the router so as not to deteriorate the signal parameters on the LTE1800.

By connecting only the antennas without a cable, so maybe the minimum gain will be. With the rest, I only throw them for tests and now I can guess you're right and this is scrap.

This is exactly the purpose of this test. I will perform such a test on the inside windowsill with and without antennas, and on the windowsill outside the window, also with and without antennas. (on each band)
The Allegro seller claimed that
Working band: 1700 ~ 2100MHz
Energy gain: 2x15 dBi
Impedance: 50 ? per connector

I feel like he "missed the truth a lot" but we'll see

And how do you want to connect it without cables? This electro-waste has RG174 cables permanently, and we do not know if they have SMA connectors or others. You can skip the LTE900 Plus, on the LTE1800 the loss on cables with connectors will be as much as wall attenuation. But check it and you will see how much toto is worth. Like everything from Signaflex, that is a profit sucked away, against the laws of physics. It is the basic supplier of shit for Janusz on Allegro. You are running out of time, buy Orange free starters for PLN 5 with 6GB, T-Mobile for PLN 5 with 7GB (the one with the inscription 111GB) and Pre-paid Internet in Play for PLN 5 with 7GB.

The best part was that he was very pleased. He used this putty when mining currencies. (But ending these arguments) I'll try to buy starters today and check what and how. As long as they will not make any problems with registering the card ..

The antennas themselves have an SMA connector, so with these 5m cables I would not be able to connect because they have a CRC9 terminal

And how do you know that it is SMA and not RP-SMA, they have pins inside, I have already seen various wonders from Signaflex. These types of antennas require this magnetic base to function.

It will be a long answer ..
First of all, Matek451, you were right, the antennas had "SMA female input" .. so nothing came out of the antennas about the tests. Yesterday I did tests on Card PLUS, PLAY and Orange. I will show the results below, but as for the conclusions, with the router outside, Play was the best because I got enough range of 2600 and 2100 and sometimes the DL speed during Aggregation was 50+ .. Orange was not much worse, but it had mega weak speeds at 2100 So Aggregation was profitable only at 1800 + 2600.
At the end there was a plus which on the outside caught another BTS which was very clogged at that moment and I had to combine with hiding the router home and sticking out the teeth again to stay on the theoretically better one ...
plus outside the window
1800

Another BTS


PLUS Aggregation on a loaded BTS (outside the window)

Plus Aggregation 1800 + 900 on faster BTS

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It's normal, Signaflex is crap and the antennas are rubbish so I'm not surprised. Similarly to the operation of Plus, the BTS in the ZNTK area still works somehow, but on LTE1800 the signal is weak even outside the window, hence the low street. The latter is BTS Stojadła. with others, i.e. Orange or Play, it is a poor relative. In addition, with weak, expensive offers and FUP, i.e. funnels by I see Plus.

Play LTE Auto at home

PLay 2100 at home

2100 + 2600 Outside

1800 + 2600
Unfortunately, the screen did not save me, but there was something around 30-35Mb / s DL

1800 inside


2,100 outside


2600 outside


1800 + 2100

BTS from ZNTK, aggregation with LTE1800 / 2100 + 2600 works fine despite weak signal at 1800 / 2100MHz. on LTE2600 the signal is even worse, although you did not show the LTE2600 itself. After improving the signal on 1800-2600MHz with the external antenna, it will probably jump and with 100Mb / se LTE2600 + 1800/2100 aggregation. Another fairy tale. The 50MHz bandwidth on the BTS does its job.

Orange
LTE Auto at home


2600 outside

2,100 outside

1800 outside

2100 + 2600 outside


Added after 5 [minutes]:

Forgive me for such screenshots but I was very tired and I was already poorly grasped. That's why it looks so chaotic ..
Best of all, I was very surprised when I saw such a plus result when I went to sleep ...
The result after 24, so BTS was not burdened anymore.


What else do you recommend testing T-Mobile?
Stay in the plus and buy a directional antenna (outside I caught 2600 for a while, but RSRP at -123 / -125 ..)
To terminate the contract, return the equipment and change the operator and equipment?

Added after 6 [minutes]:

matek451 wrote:

BTS from ZNTK, aggregation with LTE1800 / 2100 + 2600 works fine despite weak signal at 1800 / 2100MHz. on LTE2600 the signal is even worse, although you did not show the LTE2600 itself. After improving the signal on 1800-2600MHz with the external antenna, it will probably jump and with 100Mb / se LTE2600 + 1800/2100 aggregation. Another fairy tale. The 50MHz bandwidth on the BTS does its job.

The fact that I missed taking a screen out of range, I will repeat the test today.
Remember that these cool speeds were achieved outside.

The tests inside for Orange are BTS Chrośla, there are no confirmed LTe bands on it, but probably LTE800 + LTE1800 / 2100 aggregation. Good result. The others are BTS at Stanisławowska 67, and also good results, but it is BTS with 4 LTE bands. Your choice, Plus you have checked and you know what to expect from it. You should also know what FUP is and what their pseudo LTE looks like in Plus. In Play, you can have 200GB for PLN 50 / month, and the 1Mb / s funnel potel and the B715 for PLN 249, aggregates 3 LTE bands. Regardless of the operator, the tests showed that an external antenna is necessary.

I bought a sim card from T-Mobile yesterday so that the operators' research was as reliable as possible. (the one you mentioned with picture 111GB after recharging). However, neither the router nor the phone can find LTE on it and I am sure that it is a card problem and not devices / or no coverage.


I will probably bet on Play / T-Mobile (as long as I do the tests and they are successful)

What external antenna do you advise?
The set would be: Antenna for the roof in the attic, approx. 2-3 meters of cable from the antenna and modem, and from the modem to the floor, a relatively strong AP would be exposed to have coverage throughout the house.

T-mobile card probably without access to LTE, it's normal for a German operator, you have to call the Customer Service Office and ask for access. Such miracles only in T-Mobile. The T-mobile offer is worse than Play, in Play you can have 200GB for PLN 50 / month and B715 with aggregation of 3 LTE bands for PLN 249 or B535 for PLN 49. A special offer for a voucher is available from Play advisors. in T-mobile 200GB for PLN 69 per month.

Sure, and what can you advise me about the antenna itself?
Any specific manufacturer / model?

The antenna depends on the operator, in the case of Play LTE800 it does not matter because it works on the 5MHz band and is clogged. Aggregation of the bands LTE2600 + 1800 + 2100 on the B715 or LTE2600 + 1800/2100 on the B535 is used and the antenna then on 1800-2600MHz. in the case of Orange, T-Mobile from Chorośl, a broadband antenna for aggregation of LTE2100 + 1800 + 800 or all 4 bands from Minsk, and if only high bands without LTe800, then as for Play.

https://www.cybertech.com.pl/p173,antena-dualna-lte-a-4g-17dbi-mimo-1800-2600mhz.html

What do you think about such an antenna?

It will be a bit of a turn of ass, but does anyone know what it will be like ~~ on a 5m cable and on a 10m cable? (I know that the shorter the better, but I want to know the real differences)

I bought the antenna mentioned in the post above. Hope to solve my problems.

It is not mentioned what they specifically add, but I took 5m for SMA (m) because the router is planning anyway (b535- or if it succeeds, the PLUS complaint is another) in the attic + AP to the ground floor.

I am already after mounting the antenna!
In general, I do not recommend going to the roof with a hangover, but somehow I managed not to kill myself.
Below is a photo of what the mounted antenna looks like.



Surprisingly, the range of BT's from Grzebowilek was the best, and my router without an antenna did not even catch the range ... (Moreover, BTSearch does not have information about the 2600 frequency)
Below are the results from Hmanager

Speed at around 4:40 pm
there was even DL 75 / UP 30 in the peak, but unfortunately I do not have a result, so this one is official


As for the operator, so far I have not been able to withdraw from the contract (14 days for refusal in the case of signing via the Internet / telephone and I signed in the point so only the complaint remains) plus but maybe it will not be so bad even if the operator is present ..

Plus, it is now crazy in Masovian villages, in many areas it is launching LTE2600 on BTS, so it came to you for the one in Grzebowilek. BTS powered by a new radio link from Kołbiela. and that is good news for you. But check back in the evenings and the speedtest show from 20-22. LTE2600 + 1800 aggregation works. Signal at 2600MHz as for 6km from BTS is correct, you can see for yourself what is the difference between the antenna and these sticks from a friend.