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  • #1021 21749807
    max-bit
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    Exactly.
    If you pay the vendor's commissions, the few PLN they take are just formally for "balls" - they could make everyone a SMART and it wouldn't change anything.
    It's a marketing ploy
    So that the buyer thinks that something for a few dozen PLN he has for free and allegro presents it to him as a good uncle
    It even boosts sales.
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  • #1022 21749972
    hindoos
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    max-bit wrote:
    something for a dozen PLN has for free

    Is it for a dozen PLN or for free? :P

    max-bit wrote:
    It is paid in vendor commissions

    Does this commission cost PLN16.99, which is what Mr Brzoska charges for an average parcel to a parcel machine?
    No - so it is a profitable deal for all parties involved. And yes, it is due to an increase in the scale of sales (of products, service-commission and transport service)
  • #1023 21880796
    E8600
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    I have a question as it has been a very long time since I have sold. When you list as a private individual, is it on regular Allegro or on Allegro Locally? Do people buy just as well on Local as on regular Allegro? I did a quick check, the same product on regular Allegro is 3 times higher in commission (shock, I did not expect such a difference).
    Is throwing equipment into another category with a lower commission on regular Allegro quickly caught?
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  • #1024 21880839
    clubber84
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    Hello,
    E8600 wrote:
    is caught quickly?

    is.
    The first time there is a warning and a transfer to the appropriate category, the next time you don't create an offer anymore.
    What is different as a business entity, here you can say that there is "freedom" to categorise the offer.

    List on OLX only with personal collection, you will also get rid of callers.

    Regards
  • #1025 21880989
    Mastertech
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    With personal collection you will not sell anything.
    The attraction of OLX for the buyer lies in the low price of OLX Consignment
    There is also a protection package, without a problem, now they will return the money in case of a shaft.
    But there are limits in terms of categories, 1 item per month or a very high commission after the sale and packages are even more expensive.
  • #1026 21880999
    radeks1968
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    I have given up on all listing. Allegro is expensive no one customer is looking for a seller with 10 items. You just pay a stiff fee and get nothing out of it. Shipping for free and commission on sales. Allegro employees have salaries well above the national average. Allegro employees have salaries much higher than the national average. They are looking for a code to belong to some group just to make it easier for Brussels to crack down on the market. Allegro has taken over all the portals and those that remain belong to their group. How does this relate to the monopoly and the Act.
    As for allegro local ask yourself if you have ever been there . 99% of people go to Allegro and filter for the cheapest and free shipping option.
  • #1027 21881002
    hindoos
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    Mastertech wrote:
    With personal collection you will not sell anything.

    Nonsense, you simply have to wait longer, possibly price accordingly. On many occasions I have put out various pieces of rubbish and people from the local area have come to collect them. And these were not prices like £1 per printer.

    The problem with OLX now is the high price of the protection package and shipping, if there is no promotion for 1 zloty then the additional cost is about 10 zloty, very close to shipping from a typical online shop or allegro and we buy the goods from a trader with the protection of consumer rights and not a private person
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  • #1028 21881021
    techlock
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    Consider that when you list with the SMART free shipping option, you as the seller will pay for the shipping. For the buyer it's free, and after delivery aledrogo deducts for shipping. When you list, raise the price by the shipping cost.
    Such a gimmick on alldrogo local that if you have the SMART package then 6 free parcels per quarter included as a seller.
    Allegro Locally InPost delivery fee - 10.95zł
  • #1029 21881032
    Justyniunia
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    On allegro locally after exceeding 6 free in smart, it is the buyer who covers the shipping.
  • #1030 21881034
    techlock
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    Or if you list at a price lower than the SMART condition for third-party parcels like InPost. For allegro DELIVERY shipments it is different.
  • #1031 21881036
    radeks1968
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    I was liquidating a shop and I had prices for a few zlotys. This is my opinion and I stick to it. Really OLX and Allegro is one and I do not even know if sometimes Otomoto is not one group. This Alledrogo is an exchange of wholesalers from the CRL and not an auction portal, which is only in name.
  • #1032 21881040
    hindoos
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    radeks1968 wrote:
    auction portal

    This has been no auction portal for a very long time :D
  • #1033 21881048
    techlock
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    Here I agree, they cut both sellers and buyers. You need to have a stationary shop and your own website / e-store with confirmed reviews.
    Alternatives with secure purchase are scarce and scammers are not lacking.
    Already even AutoPay with BLIK payment is not secure, just a transfer of PLN 1 and you have the activation of the payment gateway. No one verifies whether the transfer was made from an account on a post or with false data, nor does the phone number linked to the account. A bank account can be set up on its face, and if the holder with the post operates abroad, look for the wind in the field.
  • #1034 21881050
    sylweksylwina
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    Justyniunia wrote:
    On allegro locally after exceeding 6 free in smart, it is the buyer who covers the shipping.

    You can activate some sort of package further down the line that you pay in the style of £6 per shipment for the fact that there is a smart option for the buyer.

    Generally on all. Locally sales are poor for me. Traffic much less like on allegro used to be.... Weak but there are no good alternatives.

    OLX/Vinted unfortunately protect more the buyers who can make the seller get cheated.

    How many cases have there been of someone buying something in working order, sending it back damaged. Or bought something working, dismantled it and sent it back....

    That is why I only have ads on OLX with personal collection. And sells on AL with shipping.
  • #1035 21881052
    techlock
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    Good strategy. Sell a few items on OLX with shipping for seller credibility. And list the rest as an ad with cash on delivery after paying the shipping costs in case the package is not picked up. For higher amounts it still comes out cheaper than the total of the protection package + OLX shipping cost.
  • #1036 21881592
    Dobromir pomysłowy
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    techlock wrote:
    I agree, they cut both sellers and buyers. You need to have a stationary shop and your own website / e-store with confirmed reviews.
    Alternatives with safe purchase are in short supply and scammers are not lacking.

    Therefore, I do not understand that also the electrode does not have the possibility to sell - buy, if only on the basis of advertisements - because what is there does not work. E.g. I want to get rid of unnecessary things then: rubbish- cost- 1. 2 , 3 seconds, and giving an ad here cost 1 k seconds:( And still a moderator will get annoyed because.... It's a pity because on the electrode there are rather solid people:) And olx and alle - it's a tragedy, treasury too:( (

    Added after 9 [minutes]:

    clubber84 wrote:
    Post on OLX with personal collection only, you will also get rid of the calling intruders.

    I only have it that way- but how do you get rid of callers, especially mental ones?

    Moderated By Felini:

    3.1.9. Dissemination of ironic, mocking or malicious content, which constitutes a sign of disrespect towards other Users or third parties.

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  • #1037 21881616
    ArturAVS
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    Dobromir pomysłowy wrote:
    E.g. I want to get rid of unnecessary stuff then: rubbish- cost- 1. 2 , 3 seconds, and giving an ad here cost 1 k seconds:( And yet the moderator will get caught because....

    But what do you see as the problem? You give an ad in the Bazaar section, with the price (Appropriate to the assortment), and on PW you arrange the details (payment, shipping etc.).
    Where is the problem? Certainly not in the moderator.
  • #1038 21882439
    Szyszkownik Kilkujadek
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    It used to be that Allegro Locally was thriving. Today, there is no traffic there.
  • #1039 21882456
    Mastertech
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    Today it is very difficult to sell something without promotion.
    When buying a promotion you need to make sure it is on Allegro and Allegro Locally, this will increase the number of impressions and you will sell faster.
  • #1040 21882471
    clubber84
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    Hello,
    Mastertech wrote:
    Buying promotion you must ensure that it is on Allegro and Allegro Local...

    what is the point of... promoting on Alledrogo when you are selling on "locally" a used item, as a private individual, with personal collection?
    If someone is looking for a specific USED item and is an informed buyer and knows what to look for, they will find an unpromoted offer on a portal for private individuals, not on a portal for businesses, where they no longer list unproduced items with personal collection.

    Where is the sense and logic in your post?

    Greetings
  • #1041 21882477
    Mastertech
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    The buyer will only find what the search engine will "see better"
    Yours will be at the grey end in popular categories where there is a lot of competition.
  • #1042 21882480
    Justyniunia
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    Then let's do an experiment.
    Try to find, for example... "indicator Z1"
    The offer is only on locally and is not promoted in any way.
  • #1043 21882484
    clubber84
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    Mastertech wrote:
    The buyer will only find what the search engine will "see"
    She is blind to listings that have no promotion.

    If a colleague thinks that the search engine on Alledrogo Local only displays promoted (paid for) listings by private individuals, then report it to the OCC.
    Unless your colleague also has a habit like the rest of the chattering classes:
    - "and I don't want to",
    - "and because it takes a long time",
    - "and because THEY will defend themselves and not get fined anyway".

    If this is the case, then don't comment on the fact that someone is using unfair practices and don't ask the question "why isn't anyone doing anything about it?".

    Regards

    Added after 4 [minutes]:

    Justyniunia wrote:
    "Z1 indicator"

    Offer 3pc from Klodzko, sold by Lukasz.

    Anything else? 😎
  • #1044 21882488
    Justyniunia
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    Agreed. Husband's offer. Found with no problem as you can see.

    Added after 1 [minute]:

    Featured listings are displayed first on the category page and that's it. There is no magic here.
  • #1045 21882494
    DiZMar
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    Justyniunia wrote:
    Highlighted offers are displayed first on the category page and that's it.

    This is obvious. So where do the claims come from
    Mastertech wrote:
    Today you can't sell anything without promotion.
    When buying promotion you have to make sure that it is on Allegro and Allegro Local, promoting only on Local the search engine will skip your listing and here lies the problem of poor traffic, without promotion you are invisible and will not sell anything.

    Mastertech wrote:
    The buyer will only find what the search engine will "see"
    She is blind to listings that have no promotion.

    ???
    It's already just a sweet secret to the affirmative. This is how unsubstantiated rumours are born. However, maybe @Mastertech will take a stand for his claims ?
  • #1046 21882514
    stasiekb100
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    >>21882480 not so easy. Found 195 listings and yours is at the bottom of page 1. It is also at the bottom of the second page. It does not respond to sorting by price ascending.
  • #1047 21882523
    clubber84
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    stasiekb100 wrote:
    There were 195 bids found and yours is at the bottom of page 1.

    How come when there is one?

    Allegro locally - what the crap is that?!?
  • #1048 21882530
    DiZMar
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    stasiekb100 wrote:
    It does not respond to sort by price ascending.

    On Allegro (main) it takes several clicks price: from lowest for it to sort as requested. It stubbornly sorts truth: highest . In addition, there is a long wait before the sorting is displayed. This applies to both promoted products as well as products i.e. non-promoted products.
  • #1049 21882533
    clubber84
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    DiZMar wrote:
    On Allegro (main)

    Gentlemen, come down to earth. Who normally looks for used items from private individuals via Allegro?
    That's what the "local" version is for, and that's the version of the portal we're talking about here.
    Leave Alledrogo alone, let them wallow in their own sauce.

    Regards
  • #1050 21882540
    Mastertech
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    We know for sure that the seller has an active "Smart" Package and we know that they do not give this for free.
    We know nothing about what, when, in what package and with what option he exhibited e.g. with a commission of 8% after the sale.
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✨ The discussion centers on the introduction of "Allegro Lokalnie," a new, separate platform by Allegro aimed at private sellers, distinct from the main Allegro site which is increasingly focused on business accounts. Users report significant usability issues with Allegro Lokalnie, including limited photo uploads (maximum five), a restricted and basic description editor, lack of delivery price list integration, and absence of features like "show similar" items. The platform enforces a flat 10% commission on sales, which many consider excessive, especially for private sellers accustomed to lower fees. Allegro Lokalnie does not support integration with the old Allegro system, causing confusion and management difficulties for sellers. The new system restricts auction formats, limiting options to "Buy Now" or bidding, but with constraints that complicate auction management and re-listing. Users express frustration over the loss of traditional auction features, reduced protections, and the forced separation of private and business sellers, which some interpret as Allegro's strategy to phase out private sellers due to higher dispute management costs and legal complexities. The community discusses alternatives such as eBay.pl and Sprzedajemy.pl, though these are seen as less convenient or less developed in the Polish market. There is also mention of Allegro's ownership by investment funds (Cinven, Permira, Mid Europa Partners) and its transformation from a user-driven auction site to a commercial marketplace resembling a department store. Concerns include the removal of cheap shipping options like InPost parcel lockers, increased commissions, and the overall decline in user experience. The discussion highlights a broader trend of e-commerce consolidation, regulatory impacts, and the challenges faced by individual sellers in adapting to platform changes.
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