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  • #961 21431461
    CodeBoy
    Level 33  
    krakarak wrote:
    Well, you see I read your statement and I know that Allegro is a platform, a square, a marketplace, i.e. a place where one lists an item and the other buys it. These two parties enter into a contract of sale, not a "square" with a bash....

    Well fact, the added candy is a really important thing.


    Allegro has long since ceased to be a square / marketplace, time to finally understand that ? You have this on OLX

    Allegro has been a platform for companies since the chasing of the blacksmith out of Allegro, and in general they are going in the direction of an online shop, more and more are selling as Allegro, or there are official sales channels of manufacturers, such as Braun, Philips, Hebe etc..

    They do everything they can to avoid them, because for them it is a problem, which is why they have made AL and there you can play with the purchase of small items from the smith.
    A friend of mine runs an electronics shop and sells on regular allegro and he himself says that they do everything to make him switch to AL

    They don't want small fireflies on big Allegro, it's time to notice that. Therefore, you have a price comparison for the buyer, a comparison by delivery time, which means that if you are planning a trip somewhere, you can plan when it should come to your house, by what route, etc. It is completely different from Allegro. This is a completely different Allegro than you think, they do not have and do not want to have anything to do with the marketplace you mentioned.
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  • #962 21432304
    krakarak
    Level 42  
    Again, I will touch on your admiration of the search engine miracle on Allegro - today I searched under the phrase "tektronix oscilloscope". Crash... Hameg and others threw up as a search result and the real Tektronix on Allegro Locally omitted.
  • #963 21432334
    CodeBoy
    Level 33  
    I don't know, maybe you have a problem with your browser ? :)


    Screenshot of the Allegro page with search results for oscilloscope tektronix.
  • #964 21432358
    krakarak
    Level 42  
    CodeBoy, are you kidding or are you serious?.... The Russian module as a result of a Tektronix query is my browser handling problem?....
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  • #965 21432379
    hindoos
    Level 35  
    Then now try on Amazon :D .
    BTW see in the description of this module is the manufacturer tektronix that is why it appeared in the results
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  • #966 21432385
    CodeBoy
    Level 33  
    krakarak wrote:
    CodeBoy, are you kidding or are you serious...? Russian module as a result of a Tektronix query is my browser problem?...


    No exaggeration, maybe the one from the Russian oscilloscope typed something similar that Allegro thought it was the same, unfortunately the auction operator can type anything in the description to sell.
    But no one is forcing you to buy on allegro, there is no such obligation. You have Amazon OLX Sprzedajemy.pl and a few more ebay etc.

    and this is what you have in

    Image of Tektronix 11A71 amplifier module on Allegro page.
  • #967 21432389
    krakarak
    Level 42  
    And why should I... I'm also not going to look at how search engines work on auction portals in other countries around the world, because why do I need to know?
    The topic is about Allegro Locally, not Amazon or Ebay.
    I have poured out my grievances and comments on how a certainly not small group of retailers have been treated, because that was the start of the topic.
    It's just that every topic on Elektroda is always blurring and changing direction and generating more and more nervous tension between the writers so I'll end my ranting.

    And you should stop using the phrase "nobody is forcing you" either to buy in a particular place or to live in Poland or whatever....
  • #968 21432396
    CodeBoy
    Level 33  
    krakarak wrote:
    And why.... I'm also not going to look up how search engines work on auction sites in other countries around the world, because why would I need to know?
    The topic is about Allegro Locally, not Amazon or Ebay.
    I have poured out my grievances and comments on how a certainly not small group of retailers have been treated, because that was the start of the topic.
    It's just that every topic on Elektroda always gets fuzzy and changes direction and generates more and more nervous tension between the writers so I'll end my ranting.


    But Allegro (big) doesn't want small sellers and that's their right, you could have bought out Allegro (big) and defended the idea of a marketplace/square. That's not why the investor bought it for you to continue selling there.
    In general I understand you and your grievances, but I prefer the current Allegro, sorry.
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  • #969 21432405
    Dobromir pomysłowy
    Level 23  
    Would some sort of browser overlay limit the search but in a way that works for me. Maybe I'm rambling - I don't have a clue about programming but logically a search engine should have b.many filters. Unfortunately, the vendor also misdescribes. Or cheats. For example, I am looking for a torch, a lamp but strictly defined. A red rear lamp in flashing mode must work for 8 hours at full capacity. Only narrow down the prices and painstakingly search and not in 1-3 minutes. So alegrozo loses!!!
  • #970 21432412
    CodeBoy
    Level 33  
    Apparently such a loss suits them. I always use Google when I'm looking for something and it redirects me to Allegro for a specific offer.
  • #971 21432423
    Dobromir pomysłowy
    Level 23  
    CodeBoy wrote:
    Generally I understand you and your grievances, but I prefer the current Allegro, sorry.
    also prefer the current butzgrozo, but I prefer a stationary shop - so the loss they have , but they do not see it because they are growing - GROWING thanks to the PROGRESS OF POLITICIANS ! Look at the offer and prices on ebay and amazon co.uk

    Added after 13 [minutes]:

    >>21432412
    CodeBoy wrote:
    for a specific offer.
    Obviously, like on the electrode, someone will recommend me and the product will be ok for me. That I can find everywhere, but here it is about the search engine - in short the buyer is not allowed to find what he wants to buy...... Well, that's what I don't understand. This is exactly how a monopoly works. Unless we get together to buy ... shares :) I don't follow the company, but 41% is in the hands of the drivers. So who owns the rest?
  • #972 21432446
    hindoos
    Level 35  
    CodeBoy wrote:
    unfortunately the auction operator can write anything into the description to sell.
    .
    Rather it is Allegro that forces you to indicate a particular product from the catalogue and the first years of its operation were a terrible mess, these are still its effects. Allegro's search engine is optimised for new products which preferably have an EAN code. Then you can easily identify if it is the same item or not. But if these are used or configurable items (e.g. post-lease laptops, where one has a battery and the other has a broken battery and the third has a broken screen and this one has Windows and that one has no Windows, this one has an ssd drive and that one has a hdd drive and all of them are Dell Precision), then the Allegro product catalogue is completely out of order because it is not optimised for this.


    Dobromir pomysłowy wrote:
    Example I am looking for a torch, a lamp but strictly defined. A red rear lamp in pulsating mode must run for 8 hours at full capacity. Only narrow down the prices and painstakingly search and not in 1-3 minutes. So alegrozo loses!!!
    Are you trying chatGPT to find the product and then search where it is available? You have very specific search requirements.
  • #974 21551145
    Citizen75
    Level 28  
    About the hidden trap that is Allegro.



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  • #975 21553057
    max-bit
    Level 34  
    Allegro is a trap for sellers as well as buyers, in both cases we have a dependence on this service.

    Although it is a mystery to me today that ebay (not much better) has allowed itself to be sucked out like this. Well, unless the same people are behind both companies.... One would have to dig.

    If not (a rather dubious assumption), we'd have some nice competition.

    20 years ago, in the dark ages of auctions, there were a few competing services, but they never, ever went beyond token significance.
    I would also remind you that Allegro also had ownership turmoil with QXL Ricardo for example, but that is ancient history.
    Back then Allegro was still a bit of a flea market.
  • #976 21553185
    Citizen75
    Level 28  
    max-bit wrote:
    20 years ago, in the dark ages of auctions, there were a few competing services but they never got beyond token importance.
    .
    I wonder if these services were quietly taken over by a major player to eliminate competition.
  • #977 21553379
    max-bit
    Level 34  
    Allegro is owned by London's CITY (Cinven, Permira, Mid Europa Partners) - all of which happen to be based in London, and they're eating their way out of our ...
  • #978 21574795
    E8600
    Level 41  
    It happened to me recently that the service wanted to double count the shipping. Purchasing the same items from a second account of the same seller and it already counted according to the price list. Anyone had a case like this?
  • #979 21610780
    phanick
    Level 28  
    I don't know if you've seen another 'brilliant' idea at allegro:

    Quote:
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    In March 2026 we will close the Allegro Archive.

    Before that, we will introduce several changes in stages.

    From August 2025, we will stop moving completed listings to the Allegro Archive. They will remain visible for 60 days on the Allegro site. After that time, when you search for a product in such a completed listing, we will display other active listings for that product.
    From November 2025, we will start redirecting Allegro Archive listings on allegro.pl to active listings of the same product, and if we cannot find any - to listings of a similar product.
    In March 2026 we will close the Allegro Archive and the site will no longer be available.

    Why we will close the Allegro Archive

    Previously, buyers searched for products from completed listings on the Allegro Archive. However, the way they search has changed. Now listings are linked to products. Therefore, when you search for a product from a closed listing, we can direct you directly to active listings for the same product.
    .

    As usual, the explanation is twisted and probably not at all truthful - and the truth is probably that it's simply about money and freeing up a few terabytes of data from your drives.

    In the allegro archive, you could have a preview of the contents of allegro's archived adverts from many years ago. If you bought something many years ago, even in the purchase history on your allegro account this information is probably no longer there.
    The only place to look for this inofmation is in your email account. Because on your email account on the day of purchase, an email was sent to you titled "on this and that day at this time you bought this product, which includes, among other things, the auction number or the price". It was a cool reference to see how the price of the product had changed compared to today.

    By pasting this auction number into allegro, you could also have information about the content of the auction (you do not have this data on your e-mail).
    Or, when looking for information on old items, google often indexes the archived auctions and you can then read about them and maybe even contact the seller.

    Once the allegro archive is closed down, all this data will be irretrievably lost.

    There is still some time until March 2026, maybe someone brilliant could create a spider that would index all the auctions in the archive and make a copy for posterity?
  • #980 21610791
    Jogesh
    Level 28  
    How about having Google write this: "we've removed all your photos from trips abroad older than 3 years. As you search for photos of a location in your gallery, we'll offer you new travel deals from our partners with a special offer just for you, you'll rediscover these places!"
  • #981 21610845
    Citizen75
    Level 28  
    phanick wrote:
    As usual, the explanation is twisted and probably not at all true - and the truth is probably that it's simply about money and freeing up a few terabytes of data from your disks.
    It could also be about complaints. The item you bought has broken, you want to make use of the warranty or guarantee, but you remember that you bought it at an auction only you don't know from whom. Because in your purchase history the information is missing about the auction number, seller, etc.

    phanick wrote:
    If you bought something many years ago, even in the purchase history on your allegro account this information is probably no longer there.
    It used to actually be possible to view your purchase history quite far back. Nowadays the history is available, but much shorter.

    phanick wrote:
    There's still some time until March 2026, maybe someone brilliant would create some sort of spider that would index all those auctions from the archive and make a copy for posterity?
    They have some sort of security that, with normal use, can block access to the site for a while. I had some plugins in my browser that were not related to Allegro and they happened to block my access to their site.
  • #982 21610995
    Brivido

    Level 34  
    I saw, I regret, I was also thinking about a copy.

    On the other hand, as for the purchase history, some time ago it was possible to download the whole history in the account, probably still can. In the sheet there is the date auction number, amount, title, seller.
  • #983 21611002
    woodpecker0
    Level 21  
    Well that hurt me, currently less so, but for years I used the Allegro Archive regularly. Searching for descriptions, approximate prices of something that is hardly available and not known how much it is worth - this has always been a point of reference when buying or selling. It's well known who uses it, and it takes up space on their drives. But it could be of real value to many people. Instead of half-legal web scrapers, maybe even some kind of petition to the relevant body, like with Stop Killing Games? :D .
  • #984 21611135
    max-bit
    Level 34  
    Allegro cuts any costs.
    So much and only so much, what do they care if someone wants to check something? NOTHING.

    I don't like it either, but what can you do? They are a monopoly and can do whatever they want.
    They do not listen at all to the users and they should PAY and not complain.

    I don't like many things
    They have reduced and flattened the comment system qualitatively and temporarily. Today the knowledge of the seller is small weak and not telling much.
    They have limited the knowledge of who bought and sold what.
    They limited the history just from the purchase history.

    In my opinion, if they could, they would do away with the comment system (for allegro it is only a cost and a limitation of sales) because if someone does not buy something even from someone who is a professional swindler, allegro loses from commissions - the bigger the sale the better and if someone from the buyers will be swindled, then ....
    The fact is that to a certain extent it can (not necessarily) but it can happen in the form of losses from insurance for buyers, but they will probably calculate it calmly and pass the cost on to sellers / buyers - read commissions.
  • #985 21611249
    Millaka
    Level 24  
    I just got an email from Allegro that if I don't buy or sell anything within 30 days my account will be terminated, circus :D

    Screenshot of an email from Allegro warning about account closure after 30 days of inactivity. .
  • #986 21611253
    DiZMar
    Level 43  
    Millaka wrote:
    if I do not buy or sell anything within 30 days my account will be terminated,
    .
    That's 5 or even 10 years you haven't used your account?
    Cartoon crocodile crying large, exaggerated tears.
    Nothing to shed crocodile tears over.
  • #987 21611490
    max-bit
    Level 34  
    Exactly
    Years ago, when the comment system was transparent and open and fully functional, one fought for the quality of these points (the famous stars if anyone still remembers) at least I did and people looked at it somehow.

    Nowadays only the main portal allegro has a comment system and that still as we know, probably says something there and still at least I look at it. And companies somehow take care of it, some more, some less.

    But this applies only to allegro, but no longer allegro locally. There, no NULL rating system exists.
    So whether I get kicked out of an account from the beginnings of allegro doesn't matter to me, if I get kicked out by a low kaflafiorem I will create another one.
  • #988 21611516
    hindoos
    Level 35  
    On the other hand, on allegro locally there is information on how long the seller has had an account (on classic allegro) and this still gives some level of credibility
  • #989 21611521
    Citizen75
    Level 28  
    max-bit wrote:
    So whether I get kicked off my account from the beginnings of allegro I don't care if I get kicked off by a lowly kaflafiorem I'll set up another one.
    .
    Alternatively, you can move to a competitor. It may be less well known, but it is there.
  • #990 21611524
    phanick
    Level 28  
    max-bit wrote:
    So whether I get kicked off my account from the early days of allegro doesn't matter to me.
    I'll create another one.
    What's the problem of listing anything for sale and ending the auction after 5 seconds?

    There are worse things in the world. Imagine, for example, that a paypal like this when you don't do some operation (receipt/payment) for a year steals $20 from your account.

Topic summary

The discussion centers on the introduction of "Allegro Lokalnie," a new, separate platform by Allegro aimed at private sellers, distinct from the main Allegro site which is increasingly focused on business accounts. Users report significant usability issues with Allegro Lokalnie, including limited photo uploads (maximum five), a restricted and basic description editor, lack of delivery price list integration, and absence of features like "show similar" items. The platform enforces a flat 10% commission on sales, which many consider excessive, especially for private sellers accustomed to lower fees. Allegro Lokalnie does not support integration with the old Allegro system, causing confusion and management difficulties for sellers. The new system restricts auction formats, limiting options to "Buy Now" or bidding, but with constraints that complicate auction management and re-listing. Users express frustration over the loss of traditional auction features, reduced protections, and the forced separation of private and business sellers, which some interpret as Allegro's strategy to phase out private sellers due to higher dispute management costs and legal complexities. The community discusses alternatives such as eBay.pl and Sprzedajemy.pl, though these are seen as less convenient or less developed in the Polish market. There is also mention of Allegro's ownership by investment funds (Cinven, Permira, Mid Europa Partners) and its transformation from a user-driven auction site to a commercial marketplace resembling a department store. Concerns include the removal of cheap shipping options like InPost parcel lockers, increased commissions, and the overall decline in user experience. The discussion highlights a broader trend of e-commerce consolidation, regulatory impacts, and the challenges faced by individual sellers in adapting to platform changes.
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