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Allegro locally - what the crap is that?!?

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  • #991 21611634
    max-bit
    Level 34  
    Sometimes it is easier to sell something on OLX than allegro Locally, because allegro Locally is treated by allegro as a fifth wheel unless we search in allegro locally.
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  • #992 21733895
    radeks1968
    Level 13  
    >>18255690 this is the kind of crap to confuse a competitor. It's a place where you seemingly have something on display and no one is looking. It allows you to hit the competition. This Dutch holding company has seized everything. It dictates prices and sales rules, just like the food discounters. Local shops are a waste of time. Ask your friends who have been there. It's like the Darknet.


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  • #993 21734232
    OPservator
    Level 39  
    In my opinion, Allegro has made the one and only good decision in recent years - they have become a parabank!
    Yes, Allegro under Allegro Pay provides loans of up to 5000 PLN to people who do not have even a zloty of income :D
    While most sensible people will take 2/3 months of 0% instalments, less sensible people will take 15 instalments RRSO 30% and go into debt.
    Allegro Pay despite being high (relative to normal banks) has one plus - their RRSO is stable relative to the conclusion of the contract - and it's not a given that in a normal bank our RRSO of 13% in 2 months will nevertheless be 36% :D
    It's certainly an interesting option, an interesting change and, in this era of popularisation of 0% instalment shopping, a very good move.
    Especially as quite a few companies don't issue deferred payments to anyone, be they physical or otherwise (apart from the companies they've been working with for longer) - and Allegro offers this to anyone, without BIK verification.
  • #994 21734238
    DiZMar
    Level 43  
    max-bit wrote:
    Sometimes it is easier to sell something on OLX than allegro Locally.

    Give OLX a break and sell there. Notifications of pending messages from a possible buyer come many hours later. To open your account page you have to wait several minutes. Likewise to open a message, although it is faster. Other platforms open correctly, i.e. quickly. OLX has been sluggish for many months. The possibility of free classified ads is a plus.
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  • #995 21734239
    sylweksylwina
    Moderator of Computers service  
    It is not possible to activate Pay without BIK verification.
    Or at least quite recently it was.
  • #996 21734240
    DiZMar
    Level 43  
    Pay is very convenient although sometimes it works too fast. One click and it's paid. I always pay off a while after shopping so as not to forget and exceed the 30 free days.
  • #997 21734241
    OPservator
    Level 39  
    sylweksylwina wrote:
    It is impossible to activate Pay without BIK verification.

    They only check with the BIK to see if you have consumer bankruptcy.
    Every bank checks how many instalments you have, at which banks, what amounts, how much is a % of your paycheck, on top of that they assume a buffer, which they won't take away from you either, and realistically you are able to pay 50% of your salary in instalments, but the banks allow 20-30% for ordinary cash loans in instalments - Allegro has it deep - my fiancée HERE income, and can normally in allegro pay take a coffee machine for 5000 PLN in any instalment system - max. 2 instalments of 0%, or up to 15 instalments with a much exaggerated but fixed APR.

    Added after 1 [minute]:

    DiZMar wrote:
    One click and paid. I always pay off a while after shopping so I don't forget and exceed the 30 free days.

    I recently found an item I was looking for with the option of 15 0% instalments in allegro pay - and took it too.
    I buy my tails feed in Pay, I usually pay back once a week "as I am reminded".
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  • #998 21734245
    DiZMar
    Level 43  
    sylweksylwina wrote:
    It is not possible to activate Pay without BIK verification.

    There is Pesel verification. If you have a restricted Pesel in mCitizen then you have to undo the reservations for a while (30 minutes minimum time to remove the Pesel reservation). I don't recall being verified with BIK. Maybe without my participation?
    DiZMar wrote:
    I do not recall being verified at BIK

    For 12 years I have been harassed by Signi Law Firm (real one - I checked) (SMS, phone) for an amount less than PLN 100. And it is a settlement that they propose, and then they threaten the court or an entry in the BIK. When I asked them what the payment was about, because I had nothing to do with Signi, they wanted my sensitive data, including my date of birth and the last five digits of my Personal Identification Number (sic!). That's the whole pesel, I reply. At first they pretend I'm wrong and I hang up. This is not frequent. Once every 1-2 months. I guess where this supposed "due" is coming from.
  • #999 21734261
    OPservator
    Level 39  
    @DiZMar I got a call from the US because I was 51 cents underpaid, they laughed that the letter would have gone out more than the amount due, so someone clever bothered to call instead of sending the forms to the post office by machine.
    But when I rang ZUS because they were 19 days late with a benefit payment, they didn't feel responsible....
  • #1000 21736902
    stasiekb100
    Level 30  
    I had a bit of a problem with thieves on olx. The problem ended after I wrote how much money I wanted to transfer to him, he didn't have to bother and steal. They marked my nickname in their database, that this one is a freak and a waste of time on him. Other than that it's a going concern, nothing to complain about. On the local allegro I go in when I need to buy something odd, or a branded second-hand item. And since I buy a lot of second-hand it also goes smoothly. On regular allegro I do not use deferred payment. Who can guarantee that I will have the money to pay for it in a month. Debt and debt management cost a lot of money and it's a shame to have to work for debt management.
  • #1001 21736984
    hindoos
    Level 36  
    stasiekb100 wrote:
    after I wrote how much money he wants he will transfer it

    ...he just needs to give you his credit card number and CVV2 code and the money will be in his account very quickly :D
  • #1002 21736987
    DiZMar
    Level 43  
    stasiekb100 wrote:
    On regular allegro I do not use deferred payment. Who will give me a guarantee that in a month I will have the money to pay for it.

    There is no obligation to pay in a month (some people, including you, think that you can only pay in a month and here's the zonk i.e. lack of funds or memory fails). So do some officials. They issue the decision on the last day of the deadline, because apparently they can't do it earlier. I repay immediately after ordering the goods. Quick and efficient.
    stasiekb100 wrote:
    it's a shame to get your hands ripped off working on debt service.

    After all, the first 30 days don't cost anything. What do you care about the costs of others in servicing your debt?
  • #1003 21738077
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #1004 21738119
    Staszek_Staszek
    Level 34  
    pimag06500 wrote:
    You can write, ask yourself as much as you like. Like a stone in a bottomless well.

    To me so far they have always written back and the prices have suited me.
  • #1005 21740970
    krakarak
    Level 42  
    pimag06500 wrote:
    ... stones in bags, identical vendor culture, identical trash assortment.... perennial problem of contacting sellers...

    A person's culture and honesty does not depend on where they sell, but on their upbringing. The term "trashy assortment" is also out of place and shows your culture.
    Do your shopping in a stationary or online shop, you will be assured of the 'newness' but not the quality of the item.
    I don't see any difference in the level and quality of transaction service and email contact between sites on Allegro or Allegro Locally. It always depends on the person and not the location of the transaction.
    I used to sell on Allegro as a private individual, after the introduction of so called "brand protection" I had to switch to Allegro Local, but I have always tried to be honest in item description, quick and reliable contact with the Buyer, careful packaging and acknowledging any complaints.
  • #1006 21746161
    Szyszkownik Kilkujadek
    Level 37  
    stasiekb100 wrote:
    Who's going to give me a guarantee that I'll have the money to pay for it in a month's time.

    I have always been fascinated by how one can have no savings. How you can live "1 to 1" by flushing yourself down to zero. Not to mention a financial cushion for a black hour.
    stasiekb100 wrote:
    Debt and its servicing costs a lot, it's a shame to rip your hands off working to service the debt.

    Repayment in 30 days has an APR of 0%.
  • #1007 21748762
    stasiekb100
    Level 30  
    Szyszkownik Kilkujadek wrote:
    I have always been fascinated by how one can have no savings.

    It is precisely because of such deferred payments. I don't have a regular job or a regular salary. It's all averaging out. What good does it do me to pay for some bullshit later. Maybe one day I'll use it, for now I don't see the need.
  • #1008 21748771
    E8600
    Level 41  
    As far as I know there is a limit above which the bara...... shearing begins.
    Similarly, free delivery works smart first get used to it and then ...
  • #1009 21748818
    hindoos
    Level 36  
    E8600 wrote:
    Similarly works free delivery smart first get used to it and then ...

    And then what?
    I've had the Smart since it's been around (2019). I have spent £340 on it since then.
    I would have spent over £8700 on parcels that were paid for with the Smart.
    The conclusion is that Smart could cost and over £1000 a year and it would still be worth it to me.

    Anyway, I regularly check the cost of my purchases against regular online shops. It only happens once a year that it's cheaper than on Allegro and, as a rule, these are products of a larger size and price and also in larger quantities. For example, poles for the garden.
    If there were to be any competition, it would be Amazon, but not necessarily because of the prices, but because of the range. The products there are simply different to those on Allegro.
  • #1010 21748827
    DiZMar
    Level 43  
    E8600 wrote:
    Similarly works free delivery smart first get used to and then ...

    Well then what? I too have had Smart for many years and praise it. Initially there were offers without Smart a bit cheaper and it was even profitable to buy without Smart larger quantities if the seller did not limit the quantity per parcel (one shipping charge). Nowadays without Smart there are very few and the price is the same as with Smart at others. Sometimes if you have Smart and the purchase is under £45 you look for something to reach that £45 with that seller. I have very large savings on postage compared to the cost of Smart similar to kol. @hindoos .
  • #1011 21748840
    Mastertech
    Level 29  
    hindoos wrote:
    I have had the Smart since it has been (2019). I have spent £340 on it since then.
    I would have spent over £8700 on postage that was paid for with the Smart.

    i have been buying directly on Aliexpress practically since it has been around.
    How much have I saved on free shipping and their prices , someone count ?
    hindoos wrote:
    I regularly check the cost of my purchases against regular online shops. So that it is cheaper than on Allegro it happens once a year and generally these are products with larger dimensions

    I have had similar experiences, if it's going to be cheap and in PL it usually ends up on Allegro.
    Urban legend has it that sellers on Alle.... undertake to give lower prices than in their online shops,
  • #1012 21748847
    DiZMar
    Level 43  
    Mastertech wrote:
    An urban legend has it that sellers on Alle.... undertake to give lower prices than in their online shops,

    I had a case of buying just motor oil. The cost with Smart shipping and even without Smart was lower than the same motor oil possibly purchased from this seller's physical shop. Of course, you can order on Allegro at the auction price and collect in person at the stationary shop.
  • #1013 21748870
    hindoos
    Level 36  
    Mastertech wrote:
    How much have I saved on free shipping and their prices , anyone count ?

    And you see, lately I've noticed that Aliexpress many times has higher or very comparable prices to Allegro.
    For example, Aqara flood sensor:
    69.£99 (Allegro) vs £71.21 (Aliexpress)

    Motopower battery backup charger:
    £55 (Allegro) vs £72.39 (Aliexpress)

    Of course, things are different when you are looking for a total of anything type trinkets, where the shipping cost from PL is higher than the product with shipping from the Chinese (sic!). In my case, it was e.g. a GPS charging cable (PLN 3.26 + PLN 5.99 shipping) or a GPU support (PLN 11.58), because you can get these things either from Bundles or Super Deals - but when looking for something specific, it suddenly turns out that it is not cheap at all.

    DiZMar wrote:
    Of course you can order on Allegro at the auction price and pick up in person at the stationary shop.

    And I like this a lot, because simply the Allegro search engine has a huge amount of useful filters and I think that despite the regular deterioration of the search results, it is still one of the better search engines for this type of portal that exists. In a case like the one above, you can tick personal collection and town to find what you are looking for. In fact, a couple of times I have had the opportunity to negotiate a lower price while already in the shop, i.e. match it with the one from Allegro, because the price visible in their online and stationary shop was higher.
  • #1014 21748883
    DiZMar
    Level 43  
    hindoos wrote:
    And I like this a lot because simply the Allegro search engine has a huge amount of useful filters and I think that despite the regular deterioration of search results, it is still one of the better search engines for this type of portal that exists.

    Filters it has but not all of them work as selected. E.g. when setting price: from the lowest after confirming several times it persistently returns to traffic: highest so that one time it actually sets the prices from the lowest. It hits me when I want to rank and it shows me a mixture of prices for the same item. The range of prices on Allegro for an exactly identical item is a multiple in the compared offers. You have to be very stubborn to find the cheapest offer for the same item.
  • #1015 21748888
    hindoos
    Level 36  
    This is all true, but... Try doing the same on Amazon or Aliexpress :D The latter lives a life of its own at all. The intrusion with automatic translation is not even mentioned.
    In general, mastering the product catalogue that everyone strives for so much is impossible. Simply some sellers will introduce something incorrectly anyway, on top of that we have variants of the same product, the state of second-hand products (post-lease laptops is probably the best example) I don't even mention anymore, but still the chaos on Allegro is less than its western and eastern competitor.
    I'm curious to see what Erli will offer. They have already "outbid" Allegro a couple of times when it comes to price. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for them.
  • #1016 21748961
    Mastertech
    Level 29  
    hindoos wrote:
    And you see, lately I've noticed that Aliexpress many times has higher or very comparable prices to Allegro.

    Consensus. You'll also find the same product at different prices on Ali.
    The higher priced ones usually have free shipping and for many things you have coupons and not some points just this week I got a coupon for £15 on a £60 purchase. That's 25% hence at first glance these higher prices on Ali but it's not.
    Well you still have the Combined Offers on Ali with free shipping. You have to buy 3 things to have it.
  • #1017 21749063
    Staszek_Staszek
    Level 34  
    On Alibaba they don't explain anything to me by force.
    I wonder how much they have the Ne-He lasers there for.
    1.398.69 PLN + 106 zeta shipping for one.
  • #1018 21749068
    E8600
    Level 41  
    Yes, only before smart commissions were introduced they were lower than they are now (today shipping is added to the product price in the form of a commission).
    The savings on shipping are really less than the service itself claims, because how many times have you had to select something unnecessary to get "free" shipping?
    The website has recently stopped hiding offers, possibly because of the Office of Competition and Consumer Protection (UOKiK) or because some buyers have simply switched to the competition.
  • #1019 21749075
    hindoos
    Level 36  
    E8600 wrote:
    Savings on shipping are really less than stated by the service itself because how many times have you had to select something unnecessary to get "free" shipping?

    I don't know about others, but I select things if not necessary, then at least useful. It's very easy especially when buying something from a larger retailer with a large and varied range.
  • #1020 21749768
    stasiekb100
    Level 30  
    hindoos wrote:
    I have had the Smart since it has been (2019). I have spent £340 on it since then.
    I would have spent over £8700 on parcels that were paid for with the Smart.
    The conclusion is that Smart could cost and over £1,000 a year and it would still be worth it to me.

    Paid by you or others in the price of the item. In capitalism there is nothing for free, and if there is it means someone got the count wrong. That smart has popularised online shopping is a fact. This is how the unit price of courier shipments has fallen, because they make up for it in quantity.
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The discussion centers on the introduction of "Allegro Lokalnie," a new, separate platform by Allegro aimed at private sellers, distinct from the main Allegro site which is increasingly focused on business accounts. Users report significant usability issues with Allegro Lokalnie, including limited photo uploads (maximum five), a restricted and basic description editor, lack of delivery price list integration, and absence of features like "show similar" items. The platform enforces a flat 10% commission on sales, which many consider excessive, especially for private sellers accustomed to lower fees. Allegro Lokalnie does not support integration with the old Allegro system, causing confusion and management difficulties for sellers. The new system restricts auction formats, limiting options to "Buy Now" or bidding, but with constraints that complicate auction management and re-listing. Users express frustration over the loss of traditional auction features, reduced protections, and the forced separation of private and business sellers, which some interpret as Allegro's strategy to phase out private sellers due to higher dispute management costs and legal complexities. The community discusses alternatives such as eBay.pl and Sprzedajemy.pl, though these are seen as less convenient or less developed in the Polish market. There is also mention of Allegro's ownership by investment funds (Cinven, Permira, Mid Europa Partners) and its transformation from a user-driven auction site to a commercial marketplace resembling a department store. Concerns include the removal of cheap shipping options like InPost parcel lockers, increased commissions, and the overall decline in user experience. The discussion highlights a broader trend of e-commerce consolidation, regulatory impacts, and the challenges faced by individual sellers in adapting to platform changes.
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