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Allegro locally - what the crap is that?!?

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  • #31 18263509
    Jogesh
    Level 28  
    It's hard. It's nice if an alternative portal was created where you can bid like on Allegro. It looks like Allegro will close completely. Why should I buy more expensive via Allegro? Mainly I was bidding from private sellers and I knew it was a bit safer than with OLX. Maybe you know some alternative?
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  • #32 18263570
    max-bit
    Level 33  
    This Allegro locally looks like an allegro from 1999, it's some g .....
    ... or a marmot or something similar from the early 2000s

    They go to companies ... it gets interesting
    Allegro was made of general cargo and that should be maintained.
    After that, what is this LOCAL nonsense?
    It was good locally in 1994 as there were no couriers, parcel lockers, and other shipping methods.
    Today there is no local buying in China and the idea is to go back locally.

    I understand that Allegro has become a portal for stores (although it also basically makes no sense).
    It could have been done by Allegro Biznes i Allegro Prywatne (something in this area)
    But I am not surprised, in fact, stupidity, it does not hurt recently and it is basically full of it.

    On ebay, private sale is basically no different from corporate, but in order not to be stolen, the payment to the account (not paypal), although it is known to the buyer, it will depend on paypal and not the seller.

    Someone has overdue the Allegro ... and it won't be good.
    Maybe now there is a chance for ebay and for example that forgotten marmot ...
    People will quickly see that something is wrong, now let's just say a year of total free for sellers plus advertising and allegro can quickly turn around and I will not feel sorry for them. Because this website allegro is for me nothing but an inclined plane.

    So hire people with eggs on ebay a little money and it will be allegro.

    This is going to be a mess.
  • #34 18263733
    piotr600
    Level 9  
    Piottr242 wrote:
    Włodzimierz Wojtiuk wrote:
    After several years of presence on the Allegro, I feel like a tenant of a tenement house that the cleaners have taken care of.

    Great summary. This looks like a deliberate shutdown of demand and a change in the business profile.

    The greatest kick in ... from Allegro was given to collectors of all unusual (such as train tickets) or more typical (such as stamps and coins) goods. Often, interesting "specimens" were auctioned by several people, I once sold a cardboard ticket from the occupation for over PLN 80, and I managed to hunt for similar occasions. And now he's sneezing, it's not possible to put up an auction on Allegro Lokalnie.


    I think it will be best with the auction. In buy now, the buyer will be able to reserve the product. We know what that means. Blocking sales by competition or malicious bugs.
  • #35 18264402
    Włodzimierz Wojtiuk
    Level 32  
    Piottr242 wrote:
    The greatest kick in ... from Allegro was given to collectors of all unusual (such as train tickets) or more typical (such as stamps and coins) goods. Often, interesting "specimens" were auctioned by several people, I once sold a cardboard ticket from the occupation for over PLN 80,


    Well, I was supposed to mention that, the search for the completed ones also helped in the valuation of used and collector's items ...

    How many of those present here buy second-hand audio equipment, measuring equipment, retro computers ... eh

    I will pay attention (as an economist) to one more aspect, the portal auction (as long as it was an auctioneer) educated (completely casually) in the direction of
    getting used to a normal market economy, I was very happy about it ...

    As an aside, I will only mention that when the auctions started to be called a transaction, it started to stink to me.
  • #36 18265050
    max-bit
    Level 33  
    I run away to ebay and no more Allegro
    But you have to go all the way to preach so as not to buy on the Allegro
    Most of the larger companies also have their own websites, apart from the Allegro, and you have to fight this pathology there.
    And buying from a company does not give any protection from Allegro (we actually pay more for nothing), protection on ebay is a whole class better.

    I know that most of the types from Allegro are this. but when the news spreads, these percentages (even small ones) will burn.

    You have to end the adventure with Allegro, they want to have it and then it's time to end the Allegro.
    Someone will say, but it's a Polish company, etc., it's not a Polish company.

    I'm not going to pay 10% for this shit ... what they offer in addition, this site is not even an allegro, but a marmot from the early 2000s.
  • #37 18265164
    piotr600
    Level 9  
    "Packaging costs must not be added to the shipping costs. Shipping costs should be added to the cost of the goods." Probably so that Allegro would add this common price to the commission.
  • #38 18265190
    max-bit
    Level 33  
    hmm ... and what else is not allowed ....

    Let them kiss me.

    What is allowed and what is not allowed to punish me to piss through the zipped fly because this is what the Allegro wants.
    A messy website, they annoyed me a long time ago, but now it's ...

    Added after 14 [minutes]:

    Allegro started to break down a long time ago (a few years after the uprising) when they felt that they were allowed to do everything.
    And they made a rag on every level, not many admins of individual categories, and there were still such admins - as if the guardians (as they were still big but not big enough to flood their number) were able to destroy individual sellers, at least such legends were circulating, and I myself used to be unpleasant with such experience (competition?)

    Later, they grew up and grew, the commissions went up .... it was better and worse.
    As they deleted the entire comment history a few years ago, it started badly and there were actually changes to the minus. (plus for them)
    Yes, there are also pluses, for example the SMART allegro - although you have to remember that you pay for it, because IT IS NOT FOR FREE - you just pay in the price of the goods (read the commission - as if someone would not know)

    Making a Purely Commercial Market with the Allegro market now, in my opinion, it should be a nail in the coffin of this website. OK, I understand that they want to separate the commercial, but treat a private user like garbage by throwing it to some junk site that looks like half a shrub?

    Can you imagine such an action on ebay?
    After what does that mean A Locally? as I wrote, I would understand it 20 years ago? But today
    It's like making the internet locally, i.e. the internet is an island and covers, for example, the city (local lot), totally absurd.
    The idea is so stupid that it is not possible and yet ...

    As far as I would understand the chapter using the Company - Civilian chapter, but it could be done with one filter button on the website and by the topic, but not to push private sales into something like OLX (and OLX is part of the Allegro group), what is it for?

    I don't know who works there, but it's not good.

    I'm falling on ebay.
  • #39 18265233
    Jogesh
    Level 28  
    End of Allegro. I think that if it goes on like this, it will collapse within a year. Companies will only use it as an advertisement because customers will buy directly. Private ones will stop selling, like me, for example. When I come to Poland, I exhibit unnecessary things. And here it turns out that I can only sell locally. Total absurdity. I wonder if any of the decision-makers who invented this stupidity are reading this topic on the forum.
  • #40 18265264
    Piottr242
    Level 23  
    Jogesh wrote:
    I wonder if any of the decision-makers who invented this stupidity are reading this topic on the forum.

    I do not suspect that the author of this decision reads _po_polsku _...
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  • #41 18265276
    max-bit
    Level 33  
    You may be right

    Zdechenia allegro is my dream fact.
    But honestly, I would not count on the giant, i.e. eBay, to match them.
    Unfortunately, since 2003, when ebay appeared in PL, he did not do anything, which is a pity ...
    Now they have a great chance.
    Yes, they have to invest in people (in total, they could download from allegro) and in the PL website.
    But it is now a great chance for them, it is a bit late because it is Christmas time and the queues in front of parcel machines again, but if they do not start NOW, they will sleep again. (and probably 95% it will happen)
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  • #42 18265290
    sylweksylwina
    Moderator of Computers service  
    All in all, it is strange that the media are not writing about these changes at all, recently there was a warning that some pages are impersonating the Allegro, but that's it.
  • #43 18265355
    max-bit
    Level 33  
    And what are you interested in the media ...

    Added after 1 [minutes]:

    Even on the Internet, there is no big bardach about it ...
    But don't worry, it's a common problem
    Why ?
    Society has been atomized, one is the enemy of the other .... this is strictly deliberate action and nothing here is accidental as one would think.
    Yes, there are people who know, but in a sea of stupidity ... they have little chance of leaving.
  • #44 18265403
    sylweksylwina
    Moderator of Computers service  
    In total, the number of currently displayed items on the new portal shows that people use whatever comes under their noses. In fact, a lot of information about it was not when I was looking for how to list items on a regular allegro. In the end I didn't find it, just stumbled upon it myself and removed all local ads by the way.
  • #45 18265447
    Włodzimierz Wojtiuk
    Level 32  
    sylweksylwina wrote:
    In total, the number of currently displayed items on the new portal shows that people use whatever comes under their noses.


    According to the "assumptions" they are to be only passive consumers, satisfied that they do not take any risks.
  • #46 18265466
    gradek83
    Level 42  
    And the next problem you put up locally and on the Allegro, i.e. the 10% option, the item can only be chosen BUY NOW or BIDDING there is no BUY NOW option and BIDDING you know when someone bids BUY NOW disappears. Recently, I was selling something there and the buyer asked in the chat how much I would sell with the buy now option, so I asked how much he can offer me, he gave me the price, I agreed and now theoretically I agreed with the buyer that he will put up the auction again, but for buy now, the only problem is that how will you finish the auction itself, there is no option to re-exhibit and again you have to add photos and complete the description, etc. It's the whole Allegro locally, it seems to me like Allegro hired some new thinker who threw a topic and gave the assembling team 1 week to create of the rules and the whole page and such and no other bushes came out of it.
    And with this 10%, people should now do so that in the auction description they add that after bidding or using the buy now option, they must add 10% to the auctioned price, i.e. if someone buys for PLN 500, it is known from the allegro machine, the shipment will be added and the buyer will be had to pay 10% or PLN 50. Or instead of 10%, you can write 5%, i.e. a half fee, i.e. the buyer pays for the fact that he can buy on the Allegro locally and the seller that he has the opportunity to sell. And when the commission is refunded, the seller has to pay the buyer 5%.
  • #47 18265766
    aleksander1963
    Level 13  
    Jest Sprzedajemy.pl - I announce the Polish classifieds website there
  • #48 18265810
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #49 18265919
    Millaka
    Level 24  
    max-bit wrote:
    Zdechenia allegro is my dream fact.
    But honestly, I would not count on the giant, i.e. eBay, to match them.
    Unfortunately, since 2003, when ebay appeared in PL, he did not do anything, which is a pity ...

    And I remember that many years ago eBay wanted to buy Allegro.
    Unfortunately, for some reason it didn't work out and Allegro remained a local market.
  • #50 18266321
    CodeBoy
    Level 33  
    Today I bought the first purchase at Allegro local, it is strange, first I did not receive information that I won something, after 24 hours the seller contacted me to make a transfer via some Allegro messenger. It is strange as in the old days, I wonder if what I paid for will come.
  • #51 18266334
    jarek08s
    Level 1  
    I have a solution, I am ashamed that I have to behave like a typical crab polack, but let it be there. namely, I listed the item on the allegro locally with the option to buy now to appear on the allegro, later I put the same item less commissions on the allegro locally and only locally, so the buyer has a choice whether to pay more expensive by buying via allegro or cheaper via allegro locally, a solution that half true but always some
  • #52 18266424
    SNCF
    Level 10  
    The saddest thing is that Allegro constantly changes its owners, from Africans from South Africa to crooks from London, and Poles think that it is a Polish company !! with each new crook, the owner of another investment fund, etc., only the commission grew, from the initial 0.5% to 8% now 10, then it will be like a booking corporation - 25%
    and then hit your chest The Poles have grown this cancer themselves .
    Allegro was established so that people privately sell at auctions to other people
    The name remained, and from the original function NOTHING!
  • #53 18266453
    max-bit
    Level 33  
    SNCF wrote:
    The saddest thing is that Allegro constantly changes its owners, from Africans from South Africa to crooks from London, and Poles think that it is a Polish company !! with each new crook, the owner of another investment fund, etc., only the commission grew, from the initial 0.5% to 8% now 10, then it will be like a booking corporation - 25%
    and then hit your chest The Poles have grown this cancer themselves .
    Allegro was established so that people privately sell at auctions to other people
    The name remained, and from the original function NOTHING!


    EXACTLY
    WE HAVE BEEN FUCKED and without any petroleum jelly.

    Added after 14 [minutes]:

    I am (I was) on the Allegro from the very beginning so I can tell a lot about this website.
    As I wrote earlier, it started badly around 2003 when they felt the POWER.
    I don't know if anyone else remembers and near the Allegro itself, strange "movers" started, not a clear property, something called QLX Richardo and then a slow ... collapse of the Allegro began.
    And so from year to year it was more and more interesting and more flowers. It started really bad when they deleted the comment history system, which was already a disturbing signal. Now we only have a pure e-commerce market focused on combing Polish companies. The rest is only to buy.
    Today we read the President:
    Francois Nuyts
    Owned by Cinven, Permira, Mid Europa Partners
    Well, if someone reads :)
    Basically, I understand the teddy bears Cash but it's bad when the teddy bears can be combed at the cash register and they still enjoy ...
    Yes, ebay is also not cheap, but such numbers as the Allegro is not observed there, i.e. combing the teddy bear, but the rules are, and a private seller is not the enemy number 1 there as today on allegro.
    Now we come to the final stage allegro becomes a typical market place and the fact is one with the original allegro nothing at all in common.

    Well, we will not do anything here, if the giant such as ebay does nothing about it, nothing will change.
    The only hope (very poor) that something ebay will move right now.
    Chances are people know what ebay is not a marmot type service that few have heard of.
    Yes, ebay would have to invest in the expansion and support of the Polish website (because today there is something there on the rump), but they have opportunities.
    As I wrote bardacha is good and the chance is now or never.

    Stupid question but I'm looking for someone serious on ebay
  • #54 18266480
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
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  • #55 18266498
    Włodzimierz Wojtiuk
    Level 32  
    max-bit wrote:
    Well, we will not do anything here, if the giant such as ebay does nothing about it, nothing will change.


    So far I have tried to be a legalist, not to violate the regulations,
    but now I have a proposal (I'll do it myself):
    I will be listing on Alocal and linking to the auction on eBay, with the info that finalizing the transaction is only possible via eBay.

    BTW, the transition through the "motorization" works for now - I wonder how long?

    jarek08s wrote:
    the buyer has a choice whether to pay more by buying through the Allegro or cheaper through the local allegro, a half-way solution, but always some


    You know, but we're mainly moaning about the fall of the auction, "Buy Now" is basically the same as an advertisement :-(
  • #56 18266502
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #57 18266514
    SNCF
    Level 10  
    Erbit wrote:
    Novile wrote:
    ... See how it is a machine, a delay of a few days in the transfer and this is how long PayU has to trade your money on the currency markets. ....


    To such malcontents I repeat: There is a free market. Create a second PayU - you'll be a millionaire.


    Do you think that such dealings with the finances of millions of people are not done with the applause of top officials?
    Hahaha
    try going out into wider waters and not host and pay for such Banas
    honestly, you can only get some extra money! especially in such a corrupt society
  • #58 18266519
    Włodzimierz Wojtiuk
    Level 32  
    Erbit wrote:
    Novile wrote:
    ... See how it is a machine, a delay of a few days in the transfer and this is how long PayU has to trade your money on the currency markets. ....


    To such malcontents I repeat: There is a free market. Create a second PayU - you'll be a millionaire.


    It's like asking J. Kovalsky, who makes $ 30,000 a year, to start a second Amazon.

    It is me that let me point out that the free market is when the appropriate institutions make sure that there is no fucking ...
    because it is difficult to even call it a monopoly
    Our Office of Competition and Consumer Protection (UOKiK) is about to beat!
  • #59 18266520
    Anonymous
    Level 1  
  • #60 18266691
    clubber84
    Level 37  
    Allegro has been for several years, probably 9, only a purchasing platform, not an auction portal. Such as logintrade.net.
    It happened when they started promoting products on the home page that at first glance were not related to a particular seller or store, as if the allegro itself was selling the products and not a specific store. Something like the advertising of shopping malls on billboards, where they advertise, say, a coat for a specific amount, but without specifying in which store in this gallery you can buy the coat.
    The last advertisement of this type of Allegro on TV that I remember was the one with a shower cubicle, where the price was given, but the name of the company or shop that offered the cubicle for sale was no longer there.
    Note that the most stores promoted on the Allegro are those that have a given product for sale in hundreds and thousands of items.
    As if they were paying a subscription fee for selling on the Allegro, like those shopkeepers paying rent for a box in a shopping mall.
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Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the recent changes to Allegro's auction platform, particularly the introduction of "Allegro Lokalnie," which has been met with significant dissatisfaction from users. Many users express frustration over the limitations of the new platform, including a 10% commission fee, restrictions on the number of photos (limited to five), and the inability to use certain features like "show similar" or a comprehensive description editor. Users feel that the changes favor businesses over individual sellers, leading to a decline in private sales. The lack of a robust buyer protection program and the inability to track bids or manage auctions effectively are also major concerns. Some users suggest that the platform is becoming more akin to a notice board rather than a competitive auction site, prompting discussions about potential migration to other platforms like OLX or eBay. The overall sentiment indicates a belief that Allegro is losing touch with its user base and may face long-term consequences if it does not address these issues.
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