Allegro locally - what the crap is that?!?

I do not know what you are so grumbling about PayU, it is not really bad.
After all, the commission is not charged (and on PayPal and yes)
Payments go quickly and we and the seller can see that the payment has been made, which enables the shipment immediately.

So PayU itself has nothing to pick on.

The problem is with the Allegro itself that it has turned into one big online store for commercial trade.

If the division was to take place, then with one button COMPANY - PRIVATE PERSON and after the subject, the chapter as it is, is the worst possible.
As I wrote, this website resembles OLX (also the Allegro group) and when I see it, they do not buy there (and which will also matter), I do not know who works in this allegro but it looks disrespectful to say the least
And the fact that one wrote here, it looks like they would take a student and you have to make a website for private persons here.

I absolutely do not see any economic justification here because people, if they get it (?), Will blow from this allegro locally
Grounds
1. Hopeless layout - amatric look - like OLX
2. OLX appearance scares away - OLX is for many (and me) a platform for cheaters - it scares away.
3. 10% WTF commission?
4. Poor service and after-sales support (shipping payment) - see item 1

While L ... s buying on the Allegro will stay because they are not interested in how to buy and what and for how much, the group of sellers is a bit more resourceful and will quickly catch that something is not bangla.
It should also be remembered that the group of buyers of used goods also has more thought in their purchases and what they offer is scary (see p2)

So let's hope all AL will become a failure and maybe ....

As I wrote earlier, now the only hope is in a large portal that has enough strength to hit the wa, and so hard that it collapses, hits the soil and does not get up, and this is a great opportunity for them.

They will not benefit ... (and they probably will) well, we will continue to do the garage sale, although with more difficulty.

1. Where does this hustle and bustle come from? After all, already in mid-August, the Allegro sent a letter to everyone informing about the changes.

2. You regret that it will not be possible to bid. You are an unrepresentative group. What does a typical Kowalski do when he wants to buy something? It searches for prices, usually new goods, with the option to buy now (no auction), with the possibility of buying through Smart and with the possibility of return. How many private sellers meet these conditions?

3. Allegro can afford to "ignore" private sellers. Probably around 90% and no more income is received from companies, the remaining 10% are probably not worth the effort (there is more to deal with disputes, etc.)

4. If someone wants to buy something in Poland, the word "internet purchase" is allegro. Ebay has not caught on here at all, and niche platforms such as marmot, sprzedajemy.pl, gratyzchaty and other tiny sites are just a curiosity, if someone does not find something on the Allegro, then even more so. There is also OLX, but it still has the same owner as the Allegro.
I used to sell a bit on OLX and there was more exchanging messages with potential buyers than actually selling. Janusze themselves.

I have a theory that they want to bud a new OLX from Allegro in order to have two websites for sale.

phanick wrote:

1. Where does this hustle and bustle come from? After all, already in mid-August, the Allegro sent a letter to everyone informing about the changes.


3. Allegro can afford to "ignore" private sellers. Probably around 90% and no more income is received from companies, the remaining 10% are probably not worth the effort (there is more to deal with disputes, etc.)

4. If someone wants to buy something in Poland, the word "internet purchase" is allegro. Ebay has not caught on here at all, and niche platforms such as marmot, sprzedajemy.pl, gratyzchaty and other tiny sites are just a curiosity, if someone does not find something on the Allegro, then even more so. There is also OLX, but it still has the same owner as the Allegro.
I used to sell a bit on OLX and there was more exchanging messages with potential buyers than actually selling. Janusze themselves.

"Allegro reports that there are currently 21 million users registered on the platform, of which 140,000 are sellers with company accounts. It does not disclose, however, how many sellers with regular accounts for which Allegro Lokalnie has been launched."

OLX has probably not been in the Allegro group for several years, I think.

phanick wrote:

2. You regret that it will not be possible to bid. You are an unrepresentative group. What does a typical Kowalski do when he wants to buy something? It searches for prices, usually new goods, with the option to buy now (no auction), with the possibility of buying through Smart and with the possibility of return. How many private sellers meet these conditions?

Certainly some people have used BCM auctions where you could "scratch" for some good opportunity.

At auctions, I once wrenched the LTO3 drive for PLN 300 where the market was somehow PLN 400-500.

Generator RF G4-107 for PLN 111 (including KW).
There used to be some game sets for a dozen or so zlotys and game consoles.

@ aleksander1963
So they will make new ones, cutting on the strength and again will be sold to someone with a "vision of further development"

Exactly! Let's buy in online stores. It is true that most sellers on Allegro have their own online stores. Two days ago I bought a bag 60 PLN cheaper than on Allegro - at a price of about 200 PLN, it is much cheaper. I bought it from a seller from Allegro, but in his online store !!! Let's not buy on Allegro, they destroyed the tradition, as someone wrote, it's like they threw me out of my house!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S33Bm4Qwgx0&t=0s

Five minutes of looking at the lit chandelier is enough, the rest is a waste of time.

Is something wrong already?
It's good that you can hear the media, you should be glad that someone is broadcasting it and not moaning.
Because you're not interested, it's not our business.
Polish Klimaciki

And I managed to sell arduino modules without commission. The buyer wrote what he wanted, I wrote him the price, sent the account number, he paid the cash, the goods went. Only that this is only one case because the rest of the auction is hanging on me and nobody writes or asks. I still have some things to do, but I could use a website like the old Allegro.

Damn if I knew what they would do, I would chase the junk sooner and they would rot in the closet.

@unitrax, surely others have written or know that "" Allegro.pl reserves the right to filter and stop messages sent by users as part of the tools available on Allegro, in particular if they are spam, contain content that violates these regulations or otherwise they threaten the safety of users. "Your behavior fits like a glove to what @m ax-bit wrote to me, polaczki and Polish atmosphere. Allegro was made locally for people like you and through such combinations.

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Forget your personal trips.

not by people like me but like you

If you can't read with understanding, don't even get into unnecessary discussions with me, get it?

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Be warned again.

yanes wrote:

@unitrax, surely others have written or know that "" Allegro.pl reserves the right to filter and stop messages sent by users as part of the tools available on Allegro, in particular if they are spam, contain content that violates these regulations or otherwise they threaten the safety of users. "Your behavior fits like a glove to what @m ax-bit wrote to me, polaczki and Polish atmosphere. Allegro was made locally for people like you and through such combinations.

Buddy, donate the texts about polaczek.
As it was normal allegro, I put auctions and never finished ahead of time or outside the allegro, and I sent those who asked for how much immediately to the auction, but you already have your theories.
You can sell outside of the Allegro locally and there is nothing wrong with that. Only the Allegro itself works locally, so it's a pity to talk.
The regulations you are quoting apply to the Allegro, not the local one.
Sometimes I just buy something that is in the wardrobe, I do some cleaning in the spring, so I gave auctions for the price that was minimally interesting to me. And people were bidding, but even though I indicated that I do not finish the auction before the end of the auction, they wrote as much as possible.
It was a lot of fun, someone got the item much below the market price, and I got rid of the trash, only recently the commission went up they used some zxcbbnm(_at_)allegroemil.pl instead of e-mails, coded the names of who bought, and removed comments for buyers. Even on aliex ... There is a page where sellers rate buyers but hidden.
Another thing with a warranty from private persons, for a used phone for a year is a bit of a drag, but we have the right

Everything goes in this direction to make it difficult to trade in stimulants. People will go to the store for new ones and the government will show off the indicators. It is easier to scrap than sell it to a neighbor.

Good morning.
I must also add a few bitter words of bitterness to the topic "ALLEGRO Lokalnie", I hope that someone has already woken up with a hand in no ...
However, there is still time to quickly fix this inconvenient formula for users, someone at Allegro probably forgot that the customer is always right. Fatal interface, only 5 photos for a possible listing of the price list, not to mention. If the intention of the managers in "Allegro" was to lose users and transfer them to other sales opportunities, this intention was a success. Congratulations.

One thing is for sure, the allegro has become so brazen that it has decided to have small sellers in it, it has forgotten that it was created on them.
It decided to throw them into the junk site, in principle, they could even close the sale for private sellers, but not to finish them off, they decided to commission a 10% commission, you can see they assume that one journalist decided to say once:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vodTM9AePCE

Yes yes it is nothing but the same pattern.
And it is not entirely true that ebay is a niche fact in the sales industry Poland - Poland does not matter (although I have bought one) but nothing stands in the way of changing it.
Here is just, so to speak, a little change in the approach of ebay itself.
People know what ebay is and now it is enough to give them an impulse to move, the impulse for the whole group of sellers is one CASH.
As I wrote YEAR of free Darmochy + Advertising and in a year, the top two allegro will be what ŚWIASTAK is today and what a marmot is, very few people already know.
(sorry to repeat myself - but this is the core)

stasiekb100 wrote:

Everything goes in this direction to make it difficult to trade in stimulants.

Rather, everything is going in this direction, so that alledrogo can increase profits from its activities, turnover is in second place. If their next step causes any serious problems with their profits, they will go back that one step. They don't work idiots and they know very well what "ram shearing" is. They also do not care much about online opinions (but their lawyers review them) on this subject until the risk of losing profits materializes.

OK cash. MISIU cash. I understand it, but as history teaches us and large companies make mistakes that destroy them
And in my opinion, allegro has just taken such a step.
I don't think they foresaw that the internet will call ... hello ....

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And another video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRNL69QjwLM

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Well, of course, with this allegro collapse, it is also not good (what the monopoly does) ... it would be best for a price war to begin AE, it would be nice for us, the E Darmoch movement plus the escape of income (reduced sales) would mean a drop in prices on A.

khoam wrote:

stasiekb100 wrote:

Everything goes in this direction to make it difficult to trade in stimulants.

Rather, everything is going in this direction, so that alledrogo can increase profits from its activities, turnover is in second place. If their next step causes any serious problems with their profits, they will go back that one step. They don't work idiots and they know very well what "ram shearing" is. They also do not care much about online opinions (but their lawyers review them) on this subject until the risk of losing profits materializes.

They increase profits because large companies put up auctions there (eg Avans, x-kom, inter cars, osram, philips, zelmer, AEG, komputronik, sferis, vobis, apollo, redcoon, ole ole, and thousands of others). None of these companies have a website? They simply do not have the power to break through, Allegro + Allegro smart service destroys the competition (the Allegro itself must FOREVER pay extra for this). Allegro is transforming from a popular "bazaar" into a rather prospering "department store" and therefore private users begin to be separated. Unfortunately, this is the company's policy, what can we do is move to a different platform, but which one? See what the situation with apartments looks like. Someone will post an ad locally, and what next? Then there is OLX-otodom / allegro-morizon and others - practically irrelevant. If someone puts it on morizon it is from the machine -> the advertisement will be on the Allegro. If someone puts up on otodom -> the ad will go to OLX. The owner of OLX also has an eMAG service. My guess is that Allegro wants to strive for a similar website look (you choose the product and see which company offers it, despite the fact that it has its own online store) - this is how Allegro works, but now they want to remove the private user zone. The effect is amplified by the already mentioned smart package, coins, help in solving problems with the buyer / goods, etc. In the case of naspers, we have a chapter: OLX - a website with private advertisements, eMAG - only registered stores. I will just add that not everyone knows, but payU does not belong to allegro, but to naspers.

Approx
Let's do some analysis because no one has done it
What does the market look like
Laptop computers:
TOTAL: 86122 / from FV (company) 78539 private approx. 9%
Desktop computers:
TOTAL: 58189 / from FV (company) 55488 private approx. 5%
Computers (total)
TOTAL: 5,041,000 / with FV (company) 4,861,000 private approx. 4%
Home audio equipment:
TOTAL: 121110 / z FV (company) 94450 private approx. 22%
Smartphones and cell phones
TOTAL: 72487 / z FV (company) 46663 private approx. 36%
Digital cameras:
TOTAL: 11584 / from FV (company) 7269 private approx. 37%
New and used car parts
TOTAL: 24 296 798 / from FV (company) 20 914 790 private approx. 16%

As you can see, it is different
Of course, there will be departments in which there are practically only companies
And there are industries where private participation matters
In fact, the move is stupid anyway.
I understand the division OK but not the way they did, it won't do any good this way.

In this way, Allegro ceases to be an auction site, because auctions were mainly for second-hand items. I can only say - it's a pity. But I have no regrets. Surely their platform was much more effective at selling stuff. From his practice - a used car on OLX could hang for even a month, after being exposed to Otomoto / Allegro it sold for 2-3 days.

Eidems wrote:

My guess is that Allegro wants to strive for a similar website look (you choose the product and see which company offers it, even though it has its own online store) - this is how Allegro works

This is how Ceneo works and it also belongs to the Allegro group.

and another "advertisement" allegro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHHxmFQOybo