Allegro Lokalnie is an absolute tragedy. There was no problem with selling on a normal Allegro. And here, my PS4 pro with the lowest price in this condition (perfect condition, original packaging, fv with a warranty for one more year in a nationwide chain of stores), the latest revision, issued for a whole week and nothing ...
I check the Allegro, and there I see that people are buying from pawnshops in a replacement package, probably consoles damaged and only 1 month of the start-up guarantee for PLN 100-150 more.
A real massacre. Clearly, buyers ignore allegro offers locally, due to how such an offer is presented on the portal.
As if ebay or amazon released their systems on the Polish market, Allegro is bankrupt immediately.
I wonder what will happen next ... when the Allegro will finally dig out all private ones from the Allegro ... they will start looking for a moment ... and where are not companies, but ordinary sellers? It is known that the brand is new, but everyone was oriented towards the Allegro and those who buy stimulants and not stimulants, of course, there are some stimulants from companies ... e.g. Laptops, Computers but those who were looking for stimulants in certain groups will not look for companies ... and there is no ...
So now only hope in ebay
Of course, for now ebay doesn't give a damn if you ask them if they are going to do something about it, you get the following SPHERE:
Hello Marcin,
Thank you for writing to eBay customer service. My name is Abhay and I am glad to be able to help you. First, I appreciate your efforts to take advantage of your time off work and provide us with the necessary information. Thank you very much for your professionalism and courtesy in this matter. I immediately forwarded your suggestion to our relevant team. He will take your suggestion into account. I would like to share with you that they will take whatever steps are necessary to make eBay enjoyable and easier for valuable users. Thanks again for giving us such an important suggestion. I would like to assure you that you are a valuable user of our eBay community and we truly appreciate your business with us. Thank you for giving me the opportunity to help today. Have fun.
Cordial greetings,
Abhay
EBay Customer Service
So ebay (someone?) Put the kulfon from the machine, i.e. in this case from the template. ebay does not even have Polish support (one Pole in words). Nobody will tell anyone anything and ebay.pl will continue to be a junk site. And as we know today, how would it never be useful to have a competition, ebay would not have to have much 20 - 30% would already give a big change. I am actually surprised.
But the allegro in the CPU section has over 8,500 offers on ebay with 3,500 offers on ebay ... so it's not bad.
In addition, Allegro, despite the higher prices (although not always), allows you to quickly search the offers and choose the "best" (I did not write "the cheapest" on purpose), while trying to compare offers in various online stores sometimes calls for vengeance to heaven and you lose it. a lot of time. In Allegro, I have "everything" in one place, systematized, so the comparison is very quick and convenient, and therefore I often prefer to pay a bit more but choose quickly and legibly.
But for now ebay.pl is just a language cover. If you know English, it makes no difference between ebay.pl and ebay.com. But Poland is definitely too small a market for them to develop the service infrastructure in our country - and since the Allegro has no competition - it does the job as they please.
Now, not only have they raised the commission for regular users, but have cut their listing options disastrously. For example: photos on the Allegro locally have some 200x150px and no magnification. It doesn't even have basic text formatting - like bold or bullet.
Man, I sold 2 items in this mess and I have 49, - PLN to pay ... I'm finishing my adventure with AlleDrogo. This tribute to criminal groups in the bazaars is smaller ...
End of Allegro. I think that if it goes on like this, it will collapse within a year. Companies will only use it as an advertisement because customers will buy directly. Private ones will stop selling, like me, for example. When I come to Poland, I exhibit unnecessary things. And here it turns out that I can only sell locally. Total absurdity. I wonder if any of the decision-makers who invented this stupidity are reading this topic on the forum.
I have first-hand messages, as my wife works in this company that you hate - your junk auctions, with dupes from the attic or shop windows, it was just a problem for Allegro - a lot of scams, complaints, disputes and employees involved in solving them, and the profits generated by ants are ridiculous - the first 7 super sellers generated more commission in a month than all private auctions. Hence this radical change. Allegro is strongly modeled on Amazon and will develop in this direction.
Tommy82 wrote:
I have a theory that they want to bud a new OLX from Allegro in order to have two websites for sale.
OLX has not been associated with Allegro for a long time - they were sold 2 years ago.
and the profits generated by ants are ridiculous - the first 7 super sellers generated more commission in a month than all private auctions. Hence this radical change. Allegro is strongly modeled on Amazon and will develop in this direction.
You compare the commission generated by a super seller who sells thousands of items in bulk to private auctions lol.
First of all - private auctions are practically only used items, and such a user probably sells one item per year (statistically).
Second - your argument does not make sense, because the local Allegro guarantees safe shopping the same way (buy now and auction) and there will still be the same disputes and other crap.
Third - since when is it going to be 100% profit? What utopia do you live in? In every business, there are expenses (as in this case, protection of buyers - otherwise you would put a padlock on the premises and you would not leave the court). Because that's what you are suggesting - that it is supposed to be 100% profit. Moreover, there are devilish disputes with these corporate users - there are plenty of those who have sold 20,000. items and have e.g. 500 negatives for not as described, defective items, used although sold brand new, etc.
Fourth, you talk like a corporate fool because poor Allegro is on the verge of poverty and there is no profit, lol. Only the heads at the top of the pyramid pay themselves millions of salaries and bonuses.
Clearly, buyers ignore allegro offers locally, due to how such an offer is presented on the portal.
It is not your fault. People do not ignore, they are simply distrustful because suddenly some strange "touch" appeared and we do not know what it is. Secondly, nowadays the society is commonly threatened with "clone pages", that is, pages imitating real pages and phishing data. This is especially important in the case of websites where finance is operated like banks, but not only. Allegro is also a portal where you operate a cash register. Therefore, there is distrust, because suddenly there is a website similar to Allegro, but a little graphically poorer, it offers similar services, but maybe it is a hacking attack on the website and someone cleverly sneaks into the website and is waiting for victims with counterfeit offers. And how to buy and pay here, then we will be left without goods, the cash register and our data will go to the server in Chny along with our cash from your bank account if you paid by transfer with authorization. That's what people think today and I'm not surprised at all! When I entered the offer for the first time and saw "Allegro locally" on the offer, I immediately rejected the idea of bidding, because I thought that "local" means only personal collection in a given town and there is no way to buy it. Literally a moron who came up with the name "local" should lynch because it is to him that Allegro will owe a large loss of profits. It could have been the name Allegro Bis, Allegro Mini, Allegro Bazarek, but not Allegro locally because it is clearly associated! And before I write this conclusion here, it was broken on the web, many people felt it as much as I did, so I'm fine.
Maybe the sale will start on this "double for the poor" but it will only take some time for them to become acquainted with this "creation" and trust. For now, it will be apathy and that is why, gentlemen and lady this is an opportunity to buy goods at the lowest prices because people are confused and you can hit good equipment at the asking price.
Calm down, go unload your frustrations at the gym. I am writing what it is like, Allegro's plans and what drove them, and your (your) discussions and regrets will not change that. This is a company that is supposed to earn money, it has figured out that it is more profitable to create a separate cell for the ants and thus siphon off some OLX.
21grams wrote:
First of all - private auctions are practically only used items, and such a user probably sells one item per year (statistically).
Eg televisions, cars and computers for parts too? Where did you get these revelations from?
But somehow ebay did not come up in such a moronic way, and ebay is ebay and amazon is amazon. OK allegro doesn't give a shit about priv to priv they will move somewhere else.
Unfortunately, the problem is with healthy competition that regulates the market. It will not sell on the Allegro, it will sell elsewhere. For example, ebay is bearable even in this form.
she calculated that it was more profitable to create a separate cell for the ants
Only they did it in the worst possible way. and now there are two possibilities: - they did it in a deliberate manner to extinguish this sector - the idiots did it
For what? For the garbage from the display? On the transistors from the outlet? Gentlemen, probably most of you are behind your youth and you don't understand that the e-commerce market is changing. E-commerce has been taken over by large suppliers, selling cheap and everything, and with your needs you are in a group that is no longer attractive to Allegro.
I have first-hand news as my wife works for this company you hate
That is why you insist on them so much and are biased.
d-t-x wrote:
Calm down, go unload your frustrations at the gym. I am writing what it is like, Allegro's plans and what drove them, and your (your) discussions and regrets will not change that.
Yes, because "we" are those "bidules", losers who are supposed to close their beaks and do what they are told. We can't change anything, we keep complaining and the noble "Allegro" kindly tolerates it, not punishing us for our disloyal attitude, because without Allegro we are nothing ... Man, you'd better not write about it, because you're biased and very cold with the others here. Your statements are superior to others and you are the same kind of guy as we are. If you want to discuss, get off this "throne", take off the "crown", put down the "scepter" and then turn to others. If not, shut up and go to the gym or the bar yourself. And one more thing, the whole ... you know what Allegro is planning. The way Mrs. Fredzia used to work in the Ministry and thanks to that Mr. Kazio had great contacts and first-hand information. Only that Mrs. Fredzia washed the floors there, because she was a night cleaner. So don't be tense, buddy.
... junk auctions, with dupes from the attic or displays, it was just a problem for Allegro - a lot of frauds, complaints, disputes and employees involved in their resolution, and the profits generated by ants are ridiculous ...
I wrote about it exactly. It is simply that Allegro came to the conclusion that it is not profitable for them because they bear too high service costs and claiming their rights with a person who does not run a business is much more difficult than in the case of companies and, additionally, for natural persons not running a business, there is no statutory 14-day refund hence, dishonest sellers are certainly reluctant to part with the already hugged cash, and this increases the number of disputes opened.
Honestly - I do not regret this move at all, but I will regret it when the auctions disappear. Of course, I look from the consumer's point of view (I don't sell anything on Allegro).
By the way, @d-t-x, get out of the way a bit because the fact that your wife works at Allegro does not entitle you to anything.
... junk auctions, with dupes from the attic or displays, it was just a problem for Allegro - a lot of frauds, complaints, disputes and employees involved in their resolution, and the profits generated by ants are ridiculous ...
I wrote about it exactly. It is simply that Allegro came to the conclusion that it is not profitable for them because they bear too high service costs and claiming their rights with a person who does not run a business is much more difficult than in the case of companies and, additionally, for natural persons not running a business, there is no statutory 14-day refund hence, dishonest sellers are certainly reluctant to part with the already hugged cash, and this increases the number of disputes opened.
Honestly - I do not regret this move at all, but I will regret it when the auctions disappear. Of course, I look from the consumer's point of view (I don't sell anything on Allegro).
By the way, @d-t-x, get out of the way a bit because the fact that your wife works at Allegro does not entitle you to anything.
I do not regret the auction, there will always be a "sniper" and the prices of goods at auctions are not low, sometimes quite the opposite.
... I do not regret the auction, there will always be a "sniper" and the prices of goods at auctions are not low, sometimes quite the opposite.
Of course I understand. I just know how to navigate auctions, but I must admit that I only feel good about one group of goods. I know the prices, I know how much can be bought and I use it. Probably, if it were to change the industry, I would not be able to bid at the beginning. In other words - I understand that bidding without knowing the market is ... not profitable both in terms of prices and effectiveness.
Yes, because "we" are those "bidules", losers who are supposed to close their beaks and do what they are told. We can't change anything, we keep complaining and the noble "Allegro" kindly tolerates it, not punishing us for our disloyal attitude, because without Allegro we are nothing ...
You can flag yourself, burn yourself, or display your belongings at the market. There is no obligation to trade on Allegro - this is how you praise ebay, and what is the percentage of its market share? And please do not lecture me about the wrong tone - the wrong one, because it is not in line with your way of thinking? Maybe you should pay attention to your language first, I am not offending anyone.
Once upon a time, one type showed a mass, several hundred thinkpads. They were sold at a price lower than the lowest market price, but due to the Customer Service Center, I bought one. And the guy didn't send it, I had to go to the police, report the matter. And the notifications keep coming.
And here is the question of where a private person could have had several hundred laptops. Allegro did not verify this and incurred the cost of several tens of thousands. And the trickster disappeared.
Maybe it will also hinder criminal activity, because some people took over accounts and issued, for example, the latest 15 Iphones from them, without having any. The card bought at the gate for fake prepaid data was influenced by cash and they saw that much of the guy, then the cryptocurrency exchange and the company had a loss, and the criminal made a profit.
So I remembered that in the pre-Allegro era I used my father from Anonse.
Once upon a time, one type showed a mass, several hundred thinkpads. They were sold at a price lower than the lowest market price, but due to the Customer Service Center, I bought one. And the guy didn't send it, I had to go to the police, report the matter. And the notifications keep coming.
And here is the question of where a private person could have had several hundred laptops. Allegro did not verify this and incurred the cost of several tens of thousands. And the trickster disappeared.
Maybe it will also hinder criminal activity, because some people took over accounts and issued, for example, the latest 15 Iphones from them, without having any. The card bought at the gate for fake prepaid data was influenced by cash and they saw that much of the guy, then the cryptocurrency exchange and the company had a loss, and the criminal made a profit.
So I remembered that in the pre-Allegro era I used my father from Anonse.
We don't defend Allegro anymore, what is their ceneo website doing? Fake shops had positive comments and tricked people into money. Ceneo checks sellers so that only the cash for positioning counts, and whether the store exists at all, they are no longer interested ... On Allegro, the practices of selling goods from China are common, and what does Allegro do? See no problem, added an option in filters: delivery from PL / China.
Fraud is not only related to priv accounts, but it could be verified not long ago, today we do not know what the level of fraud in individual groups is. Although I have some strange belief that company accounts have a larger share (even due to the fact that there are many more of them)
There is one fact here, beating the foam will bring nothing unless the Allegro is not kicked financially.
I am thinking about one UOKiK and monopolistic activities. But it will always be difficult to defend ourselves, after all, AL is not there ... and it is a failure, well, it will be hard to prove the level of g ...
I remember when the Allegro was a light service, it bought and sold just like today, but not a bit different. In the past, people used to buy in a traditional way or through external websites of online stores. So in the 90s you bought traditionally. At the beginning of the 2000s, there was a change in some gear after traditional buying, people started to buy online (but only used elements), yes, they were ordered online, but most of them were picked up traditionally. the years 2005 - 2010 are basically buying new things in a store, usually in a traditional way, but e-commerce and shipping are starting to matter. Allegro is mainly buying second-hand and selling used things, but there are already companies and we buy remotely. Since 2010, more and more e-commerce has appeared, we buy more and more remotely (remotely) and the possibility of returning such goods is not without significance (which additionally encourages - we can always return it). Another PACZKOMATY service appears, courier companies also promote e-commerce. Sales of companies on Allegro is growing and private sales are systematically decreasing. It should be remembered that a lot of companies promoted themselves by selling their rubbish (electronic, mechanical, etc.), it was important for the growth of company sales (this process started somewhere around 2002 - 2004). After 2015, a massive share of companies and e-sales begins to be seen, with private sales declining to today's level. And just today we observe the end of the allegro as we know it. As I wrote, ebay did not come up with such a stupid idea, although the procedure and the protection system itself are incomparably better than the allegroup (read less annoying). And yet there, like on the Allegro website, that website underwent a similar change, and today it is mainly companies that sell it there. So Mr. D's arguments are worth nothing.
Groaning and complaining and most of us will end up using this site. People have a hard time giving up on comfort and the Allegro website is quite ergonomic after so many years of use. I was forced to buy once, outside the Allegro, urgent repair after a week, I expected I doubted and ordered on the Allegro, the parcel arrived after 2 days, while the earlier one from the store's direct website came after 3 weeks and no response to e-mails or tracking of the parcel.
Groaning and complaining and most of us will end up using this site. People have a hard time giving up on comfort and the Allegro website is quite ergonomic after so many years of use. I was forced to buy once, outside the Allegro, urgent repair after a week, I expected I doubted and ordered on the Allegro, the parcel arrived after 2 days, while the earlier one from the store's direct website came after 3 weeks and no response to e-mails or tracking of the parcel.
Exactly. I fully agree! Allegro has many disadvantages, but there are also benefits. I also wrote about it.
eBay may be beneficial, but only from the buyer's point of view. It is very disadvantageous for the seller, especially for the individual seller. There will certainly be an alternative to Allegro, but it's a pity, because centralization was convenient. And they had a good deal with Inpost. Of course, it's "their sandbox" and they can do whatever they want with it. They have no obligation to maintain the provision of services.
eBay may be beneficial, but only from the buyer's point of view. It is very disadvantageous for the seller, especially for the individual seller. There will certainly be an alternative to Allegro, but it's a pity, because centralization was convenient. And they had a good deal with Inpost. Of course, it's "their sandbox" and they can do whatever they want with it. They have no obligation to maintain the provision of services.
Advantageous, payment only paypal, where payU, 24 transfers?
Oh, I sincerely doubt it. The screams and protests will solidify and it will be like with car dealers - they shouted too, there were protests, articles in newspapers, and still everyone is selling on Otomoto.
If there is demand and you can make money on it, someone will be there. Allegro does not have a monopoly on internet auctions.
In general, I like the AL regulations, especially the rigid shipping price list. Because the domain of the little ones was to combine shipping costs - such as an item for PLN 30, and a shipment by post for PLN 35. However, sorting by price with shipment partially solved this problem.
The discussion revolves around the recent changes to Allegro's auction platform, particularly the introduction of "Allegro Lokalnie," which has been met with significant dissatisfaction from users. Many users express frustration over the limitations of the new platform, including a 10% commission fee, restrictions on the number of photos (limited to five), and the inability to use certain features like "show similar" or a comprehensive description editor. Users feel that the changes favor businesses over individual sellers, leading to a decline in private sales. The lack of a robust buyer protection program and the inability to track bids or manage auctions effectively are also major concerns. Some users suggest that the platform is becoming more akin to a notice board rather than a competitive auction site, prompting discussions about potential migration to other platforms like OLX or eBay. The overall sentiment indicates a belief that Allegro is losing touch with its user base and may face long-term consequences if it does not address these issues. Summary generated by the language model.
