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[Solved] Which controllers and remote control for 230V/12V lighting and sockets?

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  • #1 18261241
    169kondi
    Level 4  
    Hello!
    I own:
    - 2 x lighting for 230V
    - led lighting (white tape) 12V
    - led lighting (RGBW tape) 12V
    + I would like to add 2 sockets.

    I would like to bundle it all together. Preferably under 1 remote control so it can be controlled. Can you give any hints as to what controllers, remote control could be used to make it work? Thanks for all the tips.
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  • #2 18261382
    Matesz 063
    Level 15  
    It's probably best to use bluetooth, IR or WiFi control, as sub-red alone doesn't work through walls. You can use an Arduino with a WiFi or LAN module on which you put a simple web page on which you have buttons to control. And do you want to control the brightness?
  • #3 18261386
    169kondi
    Level 4  
    I would prefer to have it all controlled from the remote control as far as the brightness control is concerned this is how I would like to control these led strips. There are controllers on sale with remote controls with several zones only all on 12V and I still have 230V and I don't know how to connect it.
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  • #4 18261702
    Matesz 063
    Level 15  
    Controlling the diodes will be as simple as building a cep. A simple PWM will suffice. Controlling 230V lighting will be worse. While the on/off itself will be really simple, the brightness will be more difficult. Do you want to rely on a ready-made solution or do it yourself step by step?
  • #5 18261735
    169kondi
    Level 4  
    If it's a 230v light, it's enough to switch it off, but the LED strips are on 12v and I would like to be able to dim them. If it wasn't mega complicated then I could try it myself and if not then some ready made components.
  • #6 18261825
    Matesz 063
    Level 15  
    With your own efforts, this should be realised on some kind of microcontroller, e.g. Arduino nano. This would include an infrared receiver with remote control, relays, transistors, a few cables, resistors and some tools. Only that in this case the big problem is the Arduino. You need to write the program for it yourself. It's not difficult something like that:
    This is Damian and Andrzelika.
    If Andrzelika comes through the door
    Let Damian open the window.
    Look for tutorials on YouTube. You might even find a design that fits your case.
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  • #7 18261838
    169kondi
    Level 4  
    Probably too much work maybe not enough for someone who's been at it and could you recommend anything from off-the-shelf components?
  • #8 18261855
    Matesz 063
    Level 15  
    I'm afraid I don't know of any such modems that would both PWM 12V and on/off 230V control would be implemented with remote control.
  • #9 18261893
    169kondi
    Level 4  
    What if, for example, I bought controllers all for 230V and connected them to the lamps and connected them to the 12 V leds before the power supplies?
  • #10 18262659
    Matesz 063
    Level 15  
    Yes this will work, but the LEDs may turn on or off a little later, depends on the power supply. The error will be invisible to the uninitiated, so sorry :) . That still leaves us with PWM, unless it can be controlled by two remote controls then a 12VDC infrared PWM driver between the power supply and the LEDs.
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  • #11 18277482
    Kuniarz
    Moderator of Designing
    169kondi wrote:
    and from the ready-made components could you recommend something?
    .
    Everything is ready - if you use a smartphone / tablet instead of a remote control then you have a ready-made FIBARO system that also supports led strips (FGRGBW module).
    Helpful post? Buy me a coffee.
  • #12 18277556
    Matesz 063
    Level 15  
    The off-the-shelf is cool, but in most cases it's a more expensive solution. The likes of PLCs cost £2,000 and it's just an atmega trimmed of features
  • #13 18277586
    Kuniarz
    Moderator of Designing
    Matesz 063 wrote:
    and this is just a truncated atmega
    .
    ...please ! PLC is just the other way round - it's an Atmega with added safety systems and a whole bunch of add-ons on the inputs / outputs to ensure stability.
    Helpful post? Buy me a coffee.
  • #14 18277636
    Matesz 063
    Level 15  
    2000zł for a Simens controller, which has only PWM programmable via an RS-232 interface and a pictorial "writing" program. I am of the opinion that if I need something, I make it myself and only if it fails, I buy it. Why should I buy a PLC when a simple Arduino, or a Raspberry or other nano is more versatile. I recommend the author to try something himself, because he will never learn to solve problems if he does not face them himself. It won't work out once, or twice, or three times, but by the tenth time it will. A man learns from his mistakes. This is just my opinion.
  • #15 18317820
    xury
    Automation specialist
    Many including myself use cheap modules based on the ESP8266. There is virtually no cheaper alternative on the market. In addition, there is a lot of information on the web and open source software to use (e.g. Tasmota, Espeasy, Espurna).
    E.g. for LED control: Magic home led controller, Arilux AL-LC01 and similar. They have single or multi-channel PWM depending on the model. They can control single-colour strips as well as RGB,RGBW,RGBCCT.
    To control lighting:
    Sonoff T0, T1,T2, T4 mounted instead of a switch. Some models also have a 433Mhz remote control receiver. T4 can operate without neutral.
    Sonoff mini for mounting in a box.
    Sonoff basic etc.
    To control a socket:
    E.g. Sonoff S20
    Also various Milight controllers
    If we want, we can also buy or build ourselves an Arduino-based RF-link that can receive a mass of different remote controls and send commands to others.
  • #16 18433514
    169kondi
    Level 4  
    Plugged in, everything works

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around integrating 230V lighting and 12V LED strips into a single control system, preferably using a remote control. Users suggest various control methods, including Bluetooth, IR, and WiFi, with recommendations for using microcontrollers like Arduino or off-the-shelf solutions. The challenges include controlling brightness for the 12V LEDs and switching the 230V lights. Suggested components include ESP8266-based modules for LED control, such as the Magic Home LED controller and Arilux AL-LC01, and Sonoff devices for 230V lighting and sockets. The feasibility of using a dual remote control system or a single controller for both voltage types is also discussed.
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