Hello I say up front that I haven't had much to do with home automation. To the point. I wanted to install a relay for lighting with google home control. The diagram of the relay I found looks like this. 1 and 2 are two different suggested ways to connect it. However, I would like to connect it...

Throw up the manual or module information, as rather S1, S2 something else than what you have drawn.... In the case of the bistable relay there is a mistake because you have to use the so called bell switches, or there light switches that give a pulse which gives a pulse and the switch returns position. And I have not yet seen a staircase switch that returns the position.... So a diagram to rework....

. I used this wiring diagram for the bistable relays: More information about the module itself:

Well, but the one below is the correct diagram, and not the one above.... it should look like this, like a detail, but still

Describe how you want to control and what switches you currently have, or if you can change them. There are smart relays of this type controlled by bell switches - e.g. Sonoff mini DIY.

I don't have any yet, I'm planning to buy some which is why I'm asking. As for the wiring, the installation will be redone so there is complete freedom. Ultimately, I want to be able to switch lights on and off (one lapma) with one of two switches or an app, so I would like the module to be able to connect to Google home. It doesn't have to be this particular one but I haven't found any others that meet these requirements. Unless you can link to one.

See the aforementioned Sonoff mini DIY - you connect any number of monostable switches in parallel and can control any switch and app. There are other possibilities too - such as in the diagram you provided - number 2.

I am already looking. I know that with staircase switches, which are in diagram 2, it works in the same way (you can switch both with one and the other) but with a monostable relay, to my understanding it should also work And for me it looks more aesthetically pleasing than several switches next to each other and each in a different position.

It is sufficient to use a relay that works with monostables - e.g. in the Sonoff Mini you define the method of control (whether a monostable or bistable switch is connected).

I started similarly to a colleague, then Zamel with 0-10V control, and finally bought a couple of Shelly Dimmer units where I will want to dim, and a double Shelly 2.5, as all the relays will be in the switchboard. If you have to connect somewhere in the box, then a regular Shelly 1 or so.

How do I make remote controlled lighting and will this scheme make it possible?

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Can I wire a smart lighting relay with two monostable wall switches so that the lamp can be controlled from Google Home and from either wall switch?

Yes, but use a relay/module that is designed for monostable pushbuttons, not the bistable relay wiring shown in your diagram 3. With a bistable relay you need bell-type switches that give a pulse and return to position, not ordinary staircase switches [#19114512] A Sonoff Mini DIY was suggested because you can set the control mode for a monostable or bistable switch, and you can connect any number of monostable switches in parallel so either wall switch or the app can toggle the light [#19114904][#19115180] The thread also points to the wiring style in diagram 2 as the correct alternative for this kind of control [#19114904] If the relay will be placed in the switch box, a regular Shelly 1 or similar module was also mentioned as a practical option [#19128077]

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Hello
I say up front that I haven't had much to do with home automation.
To the point. I wanted to install a relay for lighting with google home control. The diagram of the relay I found looks like this. 1 and 2 are two different suggested ways to connect it. However, I would like to connect it using a bistable relay and two monostable switches. This resulted in a diagram marked 3. Hence my question. Is this connection correct and will it then be possible to switch the light on and off independently both via google home and with one of the two switches placed in the wall? .
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Throw up the manual or module information, as rather S1, S2 something else than what you have drawn....

In the case of the bistable relay there is a mistake because you have to use the so called "bell switches, or there light switches that give a pulse" which gives a pulse and the switch returns position. And I have not yet seen a "staircase" switch that returns the position.... So a diagram to rework....
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Drop the manual or module information, as rather S1, S2 something else than what you have drawn..
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I used this wiring diagram for the bistable relays:
More information about the module itself:
https://allegro.pl/oferta/przekaznik-gniazdko-wlacznik-wifi-tuya-smart-9595561261

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Well, but the one below is the correct diagram, and not the one above....

it should look like this, like a detail, but still
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Describe how you want to control and what switches you currently have, or if you can change them.
There are smart relays of this type controlled by bell switches - e.g. Sonoff mini DIY.

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Describe how you want to control and what switches you currently have, or if you can change them.
There are smart relays of this type controlled by bell switches - e.g. Sonoff mini DIY.

I don't have any yet, I'm planning to buy some which is why I'm asking. As for the wiring, the installation will be redone so there is complete freedom. Ultimately, I want to be able to switch lights on and off (one lapma) with one of two switches or an app, so I would like the module to be able to connect to Google home. It doesn't have to be this particular one but I haven't found any others that meet these requirements. Unless you can link to one.
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See the aforementioned Sonoff mini DIY - you connect any number of monostable switches in parallel and can control any switch and app.
There are other possibilities too - such as in the diagram you provided - number 2.

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See the aforementioned Sonoff mini DIY - you connect any number of monostable switches in parallel and can control any switch and application.
There are also other possibilities - e.g. as in the diagram you have given - number 2.

I am already looking. I know that with staircase switches, which are in diagram 2, it works in the same way (you can switch both with one and the other) but with a monostable relay, to my understanding it should also work And for me it looks more aesthetically pleasing than several switches next to each other and each in a different position.
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It is sufficient to use a relay that works with monostables - e.g. in the Sonoff Mini you define the method of control (whether a monostable or bistable switch is connected).

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I started similarly to a colleague, then Zamel with 0-10V control, and finally bought a couple of Shelly Dimmer units where I will want to dim, and a double Shelly 2.5, as all the relays will be in the switchboard. If you have to connect somewhere in the box, then a regular Shelly 1 or so.
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The discussion revolves around the installation of a relay for remote-controlled lighting using Google Home. The user seeks to connect a bistable relay with two monostable switches, questioning the correctness of their wiring diagram. Responses highlight the necessity of using bell switches for bistable relays and suggest alternatives like the Sonoff Mini, which allows for the connection of multiple monostable switches. The conversation also touches on aesthetic preferences for switch placement and the flexibility of wiring configurations. Users recommend various relay models, including Shelly devices for dimming and control.
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How do I make remote controlled lighting and will this scheme make it possible?

Can I wire a smart lighting relay with two monostable wall switches so that the lamp can be controlled from Google Home and from either wall switch?

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