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Choosing a Microscope for Electronics & Grain Inspection: Budget 2000 PLN, Durable Option

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  • #31 19824987
    ^ToM^
    Level 42  
    Sivi_PL wrote:
    Good day.
    I'm learning electronics, I'll be learning soldering soon, I could use a microscope. The budget is about PLN 2,000 I can add more if it's worth it. I'm looking for something that will last a long time. It would also be used to identify diseases of grains, e.g. wheat (to look at it closely).
    Regards.


    In this budget, you can buy a used PZO MST-131 with all the equipment - it's hard to compare it to cheap Chinese crap. It will be perfect for such applications. I use a similar one myself so my advice is first hand, as practice.
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  • #32 19834799
    Sivi_PL
    Level 3  
    Hmm, Chinese crap, I think it's quite a critical assessment, I have some Chinese junk, and for my amateur needs, such a K-10H microscope works great ... I have no problems with it, I use it from time to time, I think it's a matter of how much we use such equipment ... A professional may want something better, but for me at this price, a new, fragrant, Chinese junk is ok!
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  • #34 19869234
    LeoDaVinci
    Level 12  
    zbigniewsk wrote:
    Good day.
    For my part, I recommend buying a Soviet-made MBC-9 microscope. It has interchangeable eyepieces that together with the objectives can give a maximum magnification of 100x. The optics are of very good quality. The only thing that needs to be changed is the power supply, because the bulb plug fits perfectly into the mains socket, which gives funny effects and it's not hard to make a mistake. Compared to the microscopes produced by PZO, they are better. Working long hours is also an option. During my work in control, I had the opportunity to practically check the microscopes of various manufacturers and the Soviet ones were of the best quality. There were about 100 microscopes in the plant and they were the most desired by employees. When buying, make sure that there is a set of interchangeable glasses, if not, it's not worth buying.
    The microscope has 0.6, 1, 2, 4, 7 objectives and 6, 8, 12.5, 14 x eyepieces. There is also an additional scale for the eyepiece that allows preliminary measurements, the manual gives the value of the scale division depending on the magnification.


    Do you use a Barlow lens for the MBC-10? If so, what model? I tried to search the internet, but no one mentioned a specific, proven 0.5 model.
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  • #35 19869754
    mgim
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl  
    I myself work on "MANTIS" x4 and the second x10 (lenses). It's been using me for quite some time. But the price was not (then) small.
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  • #36 19871261
    ^ToM^
    Level 42  
    Sivi_PL wrote:
    Hmm, Chinese crap, I think it's quite a critical assessment, I have some Chinese junk, and for my amateur needs, such a K-10H microscope works great ... I don't have any problems with it, I use it from time to time, I think it's a matter of how much we use such equipment ... A professional may want something better, but for me at this price, a new, fragrant, Chinese junk is ok!


    You're probably right about it working. However, take the old domestic PZO and yours from China and you will see what the difference is. :)

    In general, the problem today is that it is difficult to buy something other than Chinese. There are fewer and fewer of these national PZO and Russian MBS. Sometimes you get Zeiss or Nikon at a good price and that's it.
    By the way, recently a friend brought MBS-10 from scrap. Someone has already snapped the lens while the x6 glasses were. We made the lens from some ?45 lens and it works great after cleaning. Luckily, it wasn't hit or hit with any iron, and it turned out great.
    Then a friend bought an original set of lenses for PLN 300 on OLX and I bought him an original lens for another PLN 300 - heavy and solid. Now he has a factory set and does everything under it.
    These are really decent products without comparison with Far Eastern production.
  • #37 19872441
    LeoDaVinci
    Level 12  
    ^ToM^ wrote:
    Sivi_PL wrote:
    Hmm, Chinese crap, I think it's quite a critical assessment, I have some Chinese junk, and for my amateur needs, such a K-10H microscope works great ... I don't have any problems with it, I use it from time to time, I think it's a matter of how much we use such equipment ... A professional may want something better, but for me at this price, a new, fragrant, Chinese junk is ok!


    You're probably right about it working. However, take the old domestic PZO and yours from China and you will see what the difference is. :)

    In general, the problem today is that it is difficult to buy something other than Chinese. There are fewer and fewer of these national PZO and Russian MBS. Sometimes you get Zeiss or Nikon at a good price and that's it.
    By the way, recently a friend brought MBS-10 from scrap. Someone has already snapped the lens while the x6 glasses were. We made the lens from some ?45 lens and it works great after cleaning. Luckily, it wasn't hit or hit with any iron, and it turned out great.
    Then a friend bought an original set of lenses for PLN 300 on OLX and I bought him an original lens for another PLN 300 - heavy and solid. Now he has a factory set and does everything under it.
    These are really decent products without comparison with Far Eastern production.


    Buying used, decades-old microscopes carries a lot of risk. I believe that you can only consider such a purchase after getting acquainted with the condition in person. I already had optics in my hands, the coatings of which were literally wiped off by incompetent cleaning. I bought my MBS-10 because it was new/unused.
    I also used the Chinese one and the only thing that could be accused of it was the dubious durability of the "zoom" adjustment mechanism (teeth). I did not compare head to head, but the optics are very satisfying. I wonder which big manufacturer they copied.
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The discussion revolves around selecting a durable microscope for electronics and grain inspection within a budget of 2000 PLN. Recommendations include the Soviet-made MBC-9 and Delta Optical models, emphasizing the importance of working distance, magnification, and lighting for soldering tasks. Users suggest models like the ST6024 from Optek, highlighting its 100mm working distance and suitability for PCB inspection. Concerns about the quality of Chinese microscopes are raised, with some users advocating for older, reliable brands like PZO. The conversation also touches on the necessity of interchangeable eyepieces and the potential for DIY solutions for tripods.
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