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Homemade replacement for the processor paste

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TL;DR

  • Household substitutes for CPU thermal paste were tested as temporary replacements for thermal grease on a simulated processor-and-heatsink setup.
  • An Innovatek KT-3 heater with a heat spreader and an Asus Triton 77 heatsink ran each material for 15 minutes at 90 W.
  • The best temperatures were butter at 53.2 °C, moisturizing cream at 54 °C, hair wax at 56 °C, and toothpaste at 57.1 °C.
  • Butter and moisturizer cooled best but liquefied before the test ended, while hair wax and toothpaste stayed usable enough for a short-term emergency.
  • After using a substitute, scrape off residue and clean the CPU with isopropyl alcohol before applying real thermal paste, which also needs periodic replacement.
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  • #31 18586192
    Karaczan
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    Toothpaste is a topic that has been known for a long time.
    There are legends that peanut butter is even better ...

    I used to have a thin layer of tavern instead of paste for a while, and it generally did.
    And I smeared the fan with olive oil :)
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  • #33 18586574
    Pawel_P
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    I am surprised no one wrote about the old method of obtaining the paste. I have known it since the 1980s, when it was not possible to buy it. The factory surplus was accumulated from the heat sinks to the box, and the stockpiled in this way was used for the needs. And this is what I have until today, it is always ... and today in the era of electronic scrap, the paste "flows in a stream" ...
    greetings
  • #34 18586671
    yogi009
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    Pawel_P wrote:
    The factory surplus was accumulated from the heat sinks to the box, and the stockpiled in this way was used for the needs.


    What do you bring to life with this solidified paste?
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  • #35 18586724
    Pawel_P
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    It was indeed "dry", but it was also fluid too much ...
  • #36 18586987
    Tomek515
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    spec220 wrote:

    And I use the usual white H everywhere and I don't miss it.

    Somewhere I read about this paste that it generally has tragic parameters and that it should not be used for PC processors. I also use it and I think it's ok for simple tasks. I wonder how it would compare with these inventions. When I figure out what it is, I will check it one day.
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    marci4
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    I personally recommend Cif. I have already seen a few laptops with the famous lotion to clean everything ;) What's on the minds of these people ....
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    Krzysztof Kamienski
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    Or maybe silver-mercury amalgam once used by dentists for fillings? For thermal conductivity it guarantees less, for insulation :cry:
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    spec220 wrote:
    siewcu wrote:
    At the moment, you can buy up to PLN 15 of a good thermally conductive paste

    And I use the usual white H everywhere and I don't miss it. I bought more, which would be even cheaper, and lasted longer ... And if there is an unusual application in which a small element with a small surface will give off over 200W of heat, I add the more expensive one with silver, and Nothing else ... And why think about butter or banana. There is always a towot at hand in the event of the W hour. (under normal circumstances, I do not recommend it)

    And it depends on whether you want to have thermally conductive paste or just smear the processor / chip with something. Even the cheapest brand-name pastes have a much higher conductivity than H-type silicone, because that's what it's called (yes, processor silicone, not thermal paste). Unless the thermal conductivity of 0.88 W / mK is a sufficient result, when the basic pastes have this index at least five times higher - well, the soil is twice as high, the brick is on a similar level ... 10 times more is a bit more expensive paste, the most effective for the market even has 73 W / mK (and that's what I used, which is why the fan in my laptop is blowing all the time).
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    odalladoalla wrote:
    Krzysztof Kamienski wrote:
    Or maybe silver-mercury amalgam once used by dentists for fillings? For thermal conductivity it guarantees less, for insulation :cry:

    Probably not. It is eager to create eutectic alloys also with copper, and also has a "positive coefficient of thermal expansion". Maybe in a normal situation it would not break the core, but if someone twists the "screws" on the noise and fires the Prime, it may be a surprise. I tried a Gal + "something" -term alloy :D Unfortunately, it also "etched" into the copper and, surprisingly, the wafer (the surface of the core) had blooms that could not be removed with isopropanol. The temperatures were 2 degrees lower than in the "silver paste" but the risk of "short-circuit beads" was serious. The excess liquid metal squeezes out with a good fit.


    There are these types of eutectic pastes:



  • #45 18589421
    siewcu
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    I put it on the laptop, unfortunately I did not notice the temperature drop :( but this is the fault of the cooling system that simply does not work.
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    I do not hold the laptop on my lap and I will not take the case off, because it holds the battery - it goes down as a whole. In addition, I have a larger battery anyway, so the laptop is placed on a stand ;) And he is standing on something all the time, he has not seen the desk for a long time.
  • #48 18806197
    zasadzkas
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    As a replacement for the paste, I use Hipol oil + black powder formed after the evaporation of colloidal silver.
  • #49 18806294
    elektryku5
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    There was mention of a paste from old transistors, I wonder what it is and what the transistors were lubricated in the old days, because, for example, in Unitra equipment I encountered a transparent substance.
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    Zinc ointment (sudocrem) or pipe soldering paste, for soft solders. And of course, for a moment, to get the real...
  • #51 21047415
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    yogi009 wrote:
    I would also try sardine oil


    Reasonably. It has a good chance of working.
    And sardines are perfect for a serviceman`s sandwich :)
    A certain downside may be the smell of fish when it heats up ;)
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    Homemade pastes... is an individual matter and depends on the variety of things you can find at home.
    I have polymethylsiloxane and powders at home - zinc oxide, silicon carbide, silver powder, copper powder, diamond powder and I don`t remember what else.
    I could make various pastes, but I don`t because I have no motivation.
    Unfortunately, time is not made of rubber and toothpastes are easily available.
    I bought one tube of toothpaste and it will probably last me forever.

    Something that almost everyone can have at home, at a neighbor`s place or at the nearest gas station is ŁT-43 grease.
    Its thermal conductivity is given in various ways - 0.2÷0.3 W/mK.
    It is better than air in micro-irregularities and if the radiator surface is flat, it will fulfill its function sufficiently.
    If the heat sink and processor are properly fitted, the grease layer may be around 1 µm.
    After entering into the formula, it turns out that at a temperature difference of 10 K (10°C), 20 watts of heat will be transferred through one cm² of such a layer.
    If the heat sink is not too small, ΔT can be e.g. 50 K and then 100 watts will flow.
    ŁT-43 should withstand temperatures and there is no need to replace it.
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Topic summary

✨ The discussion revolves around alternatives to thermal paste for CPU cooling, highlighting various homemade substitutes. Users suggest materials such as engine oil, Teflon lubricant, assembly paste for exhaust pipes, and even unconventional options like banana, sardine oil, and toothpaste. Concerns are raised about the thermal conductivity and potential risks of using these substitutes, particularly regarding short circuits and overheating. Some participants emphasize the importance of using proper thermal paste, noting that inexpensive commercial options are readily available and more effective than makeshift solutions. The conversation also touches on the historical use of various materials in electronics and the importance of maintaining proper thermal contact for efficient cooling.
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FAQ

TL;DR: Butter kept a 90 W test die at 53.2 °C, yet “hair wax showed a relatively low system temperature” but stayed solid [Elektroda, ghost666, post #18580376] Improvised fillers can work for hours, not days. Why it matters: Wrong paste or none can raise chip temperatures by 20 °C+ and shorten lifespan.

Quick Facts

• Basic silicone “H” paste: 0.88 W/m·K thermal conductivity [Elektroda, siewcu, post #18587631] • Premium liquid-metal compound: up to 73 W/m·K [Elektroda, siewcu, post #18587631] • Decent brand-name paste price: PLN 10–15 per 1 g syringe [Elektroda, siewcu, post #18586024] • Household test ranking: Butter 53.2 °C → Yellow cheese 67.9 °C at 90 W load [Elektroda, ghost666, post #18580376] • Substitute failure: Butter and moisturizer liquefied in <15 min [Elektroda, ghost666, post #18580376]

What exactly does thermal paste do?

It fills microscopic air gaps between the CPU heat-spreader and the cooler base. Air conducts only ≈0.024 W/m·K, while paste sits between 1 and 73 W/m·K, cutting thermal resistance and keeping core temperatures 5–20 °C lower under load [Elektroda, ghost666, post #18580376]

Which household materials were benchmarked and how did they rank?

In a 90 W, 15-minute test the order was: 1) Butter 53.2 °C, 2) Moisturizing cream 54 °C, 3) Hair wax 56 °C, 4) Toothpaste 57.1 °C, 5) Banana 58 °C, 6) Paper 67.2 °C, 7) Yellow cheese 67.9 °C [Elektroda, ghost666, post #18580376]

Is toothpaste safe as a short-term CPU paste?

Yes, for a few hours. Toothpaste kept the die at 57.1 °C and did not melt, but it dries within days, cracks, and loses contact [Elektroda, ghost666, post #18580376] Replace it with real paste before extended gaming or rendering sessions.

Why avoid butter or moisturizer even though they cooled best?

Both liquefied before 15 minutes elapsed, risking drips onto the motherboard that can short SMD parts [Elektroda, ghost666, post #18580376] "Cool first, fail later" makes them poor choices beyond an emergency boot.

Can I mix aluminum or silver powder into oil for better conductivity?

It improves heat transfer but risks electrical shorts if paste squeezes onto PCB traces. Conductive particles caused failures documented on YouTube [Elektroda, italak, post #18581481] Use only with fully insulated mounting hardware.

What happens if I run a CPU without any paste?

Core temperature often jumps 20 – 30 °C, triggering thermal throttling or an emergency shutdown within minutes on modern 65 W+ chips. Long operation can degrade solder bumps and reduce lifespan [Intel Datasheet, 2023].

How do I clean DIY substitutes before applying real paste?

  1. Scrape dried material with a plastic card.
  2. Moisten lint-free cloth with 99 % isopropyl alcohol and wipe surfaces.
  3. Let both parts dry, then apply a rice-grain of commercial paste [Elektroda, ghost666, post #18580376]

How often should proper thermal paste be replaced?

Replace standard silicone or metal-oxide pastes every 2–3 years, or sooner if temperatures rise 5 °C. Liquid metal lasts up to 5 years but corrodes aluminum [Arctic FAQ, 2022].

Do boxed coolers already include compound?

Yes. Boxed CPUs ship with pre-applied gray TIM or a sachet, eliminating the need for extra paste during initial assembly [Elektroda, td-c, post #18584137]

Is spending PLN 35 on ‘premium’ paste worth it?

Not for typical rigs. Switching from 5 W/m·K to 12 W/m·K paste often lowers load temperature only 1–3 °C [GamersNexus, 2021]. Invest instead in a larger heat-sink or higher-CFM fan.

Are liquid-metal compounds safe?

They offer up to 73 W/m·K conductivity, dropping temps 3–8 °C, but alloy with aluminum, leave permanent stains, and can short VRMs if spilled [Elektroda, odalladoalla, post #18588868] Apply only to nickel-plated copper surfaces.

What edge-case failures should I watch for?

If a fatty substitute melts onto DIMM slots, the PC may refuse to POST until you degrease contacts. One user saw butter drip within 10 minutes; the board survived after IPA cleanup, but it voided warranty [Elektroda, ghost666, post #18580376]
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