Silent, energy-efficient 480GB file server on Banana Pi - OpenMediaVault

I didn't get the units wrong The fact of the matter is that a raspberry would already be here.

Personally, however, I don't see the point in 4k on even a large TV at home, this is only seen in the cinema when the screen has diagonals of 10 metres and more. I operate a 4k projector and there you can actually see this resolution. But at home? Good FullHD is more than enough, you can't tell the difference compared to 4k, often upscaled....

No, on a 65" you can already see the difference between 1080p and 4K, which is why I'm digging and digging. From theorising to dry facts
https://www.parkytowers.me.uk/thin/wyse/z/z90d7/using.shtml
and here in 2016 the opinion is that it failed with 4K, while it may not have tried every door.

black_elwis wrote:

No no on 65" you can already see this difference very much

Ok, when someone stares at the pixels sitting 2m from the TV you can indeed see the difference. But ok, I'm not arguing.

Note that a lot has changed since 2016, the quality of the Linux kernel too. Such transfers are basically a snap for this type of machine. Although sometimes there is a need to "tune" the default settings. Also, no one claims that this terminal will be powerful enough right after a random linux installation. However, even poor NASes like the zyxel nsa310 with openmediavault were able to handle 4k comfortably, and that's a machine many times weaker than the terminal you specified.

This processor is nothing more than an AMD C60 on light steroids (boosted clock).

You can search for the performance of this processor and compare.

But in NAS, such a CPU is enough. Besides, it is 2-core. The mentioned nsa310 has 1 ARM core clocked at 1GHz and 256MB of ram.

black_elwis wrote:

No, on 65" you can already see the difference between 1080p and 4K very clearly, which is why I am digging and digging. From theorising to dry facts
https://www.parkytowers.me.uk/thin/wyse/z/z90d7/using.shtml
and here in 2016 the opinion is that it did not cope with 4K, while perhaps it did not try every door.

A colleague misunderstands English.

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In October 2016 I heard from Gergely Csiszar who had recently got hold of a Z90. Unlike Jorn (above) he was using it as a HTPC. He wrote:

I installed OpenELEC 7 on it and it is working well as an HTPC . 4k doesn't work but it will easily play any 1080p _if_ it's playing from the local hard drive or a wired network connection. It can't play 1080p over a wireless network connection. I don't know if this a hardware issue or just a poor driver.

HTPC means H <br/ome T heater P personal C computer.

In this case, it means that this particular computer can't cope with 4K playback, not that it can't cope as a 4K upload server.

And there is nothing surprising about that.
4K requires a decent graphics card. Here you have the de facto equivalent of an old HD5450 with a truncated clock and even slower memory.
At most, instead of Tera Scale 1 there is Tera Scale 2, but this is a cosmetic difference.

The only thing I would add is that you are comparing 4k material with a very high bitrate to FullHD material with a bitrate adapted to the capabilities of internet or dvb-t connections. In this FullHD, "sand" and problems with tonal transitions can be seen from a distance. And yes, you can see the difference here. But if one were to compare the two materials without saving bitrate from a few metres from the TV, even 65 inches the difference in image would be negligible.

It is worth taking an interest in h265. Much lower bitrate and the picture quality is the same.

And maybe if someone becomes the owner of this Wyse, they could check what the issue is with connecting additional peripherals to the mPCIE port.

Is it possible to run a separate graphics card or a 1Gbit wired network. There are adapters on ali for X16 (speed of course X1).

I have ovpn, file server and mpc on this banana. A 2TB drive (unfortunately not silent but not a nuisance), everything has been running smoothly for 5 years. It works reliably.

adversus wrote:

Me, I'm after a weekend testing OMV (and a few other systems - Volumio, Windows10) on Thin Client [b]bought from the internet for 69p with shipping

Can you write what model of Thin Clinenta it is ? Because from what you write the performance is interesting.

Cool, I put my OMV servers on Dell terminals among other things (but I also have another platform I've tried), the model I use is a Wyse Z90D7 Zx0 AMD G-T56N 2x1.65GHz. You can buy it easily second-hand, you know where, for 30 pln, plus a 16 or 32GB SSD 1/2 the size of a normal 2.5" at a price depending on the occasion, i.e. from 16 to 30 pln (I have already bought a 32GB drive for 69 pln). The terminal has the advantage of having 2 full-fledged SATA ports and space for the drives inside to mount them. And so, on this small SSD you put the system with OMV (interestingly, even Windows 10 without a problem can run, but without going crazy, although 720p video goes quite well), for the second drive you can give a regular HDD. I give the drives 2TB (bought second-hand, of course, you know where for 100-150 pln) and we have a pretty cool file server at home for the proverbial buttons .

Hello what do you suggest for today in terms of an energy efficient file server.

I am thinking of building one, and I am considering something similar to the one described in the topic or a post-lease terminal.

I am mainly interested in a good transfer on lan and in the network, the possibility of working in an array or at least 2 disks (2 as a backup or array)

And of course the lowest possible power consumption.

Best regards

OMV system on the RPi 4 or for example the Lenovo M600.
Both similarly consume very little energy which you can count in Watts (less than 10W).

adversus wrote:

The OMV system on RPi 4 or e.g. Lenovo M600 .
Both similarly consume very little power which you can count in Watts (less than 10W).

Raid working there ?

Have you got some example links to read about the configuration

On the web it is written that this Lenovo consumes between 9-12 in idle, and about 15 while working.
I don't know if this is calculated using a standard HDD or SSD etc.

A Wyse Z90D7 with OMV6 and a 3.5'' 4TB HDD draws me 9-10W at rest (HDD stopped) and about 15W when copying files to the HDD. Measurements taken at 19V between the power supply and the Wyse itself, so you would have to add 1-2W to this as losses in the power supply.
Additionally, I have connected a printer to it over USB and it works as a printer and scanner server (Cups and Sane) on occasion.
3.the 5'' drive doesn't fit inside, but a bit of bullying with a grinder on the metal part of the lid, plus a printed extra frame separating the metal part from the plastic cover (by 10mm) and it looks like the original, only 10mm thicker.
3.the 5'' drive can be powered from the board of this Wyse, only the original cable for the 2.5'' drive has to be reworked, adding the 12V voltage that is available at the CN109 connector of the motherboard.

BTW Raid on this Wyse is possible because de facto there are two SATA - one for the drive with the system, the other for an additional drive. So, if you pack the system to a flash drive and boot from it (it works - tested), you can connect 2 drives in Raid.
Raid on USB-SATA adapters is not recommended, it is asking for trouble.

Botting the system from a pen is also lame :/


Now they also seem to recommend something like this:


https://blog.kroy.io/2019/12/08/the-wyse-5070-a-perfect-little-vyos-device/

https://blog.kroy.io/2020/01/17/the-baby-wyse-the-dell-3040/

Both are cool, except that neither has SATA connectors. So storage drives only go over USB. On the other hand, the power consumption is surprisingly low. Also, it is a bit of a shame that they only have a display port. And the price is not so good.
The entire NAS with 30GB SSD for the system and 2GB RAM cost me just over a hundred euros + the price of a SATA drive for storage.
And booting from USB is not so tragic. It boots quite quickly and OMV loads into RAM so it doesn't cause a problem with normal operation. I have read somewhere that if a USB drive is connected, then it does not boot from a pen drive.

In this case the HP Terminal 620 , has the possibility of connecting to SATA