How to control roller shutters via SATEL INT-IORS with Legrand Niloe switches?

Greetings, honourable Members,

1) Problem:
With what function or combination of functions can I control the roller shutters, implementing the control through the manufacturer's module SATEL INT-IORS.
- The roller shutter is current-controlled, i.e. if a given open/close circuit has voltage it performs its function. No roller shutter controller.
- Star wiring, i.e. from each roller shutter to the distribution board 4x1.5mm2 and from each switch a twisted pair (1 twisted pair per roller shutter).
- The roller shutters are fitted with limit switches,
- The control switches fitted are legrand niloe bell switches (whole house legrand niloe)
- Due to the large number of roller shutters in one place and the central control (1 window 2 roller shutters) the control is done with a double bell switch.
- Legrand Niloe does not have double roller shutter switches.
- Roller shutters do not have reed switches or other sensors to control their position

How do I get out of this?
I would like to control from the app and the switches. As far as the app is concerned, I see no problem. How can I implement the function of controlling them based on a bell button.
Solutions like 1 click -> up -> 2 clicks stop -> long 3s hold -> down come to mind. But this is a complicated solution.
Please give me your advice. Thanks for all of them.

damwojt wrote:

How do we get out of this?

How to get out of it?

Fit a double doorbell to each window, where there are 2 roller shutters on one switch either make a second switch or control them simultaneously.

This solution is familiar to me. I found it in the manufacturer's instructions.
Is there no other? Unfortunately I cannot do this due to the lack of cans and the current state of the finish.
I have 6 roller shutters to realise in one console at 3 cans. The rest light etc.
I have already come up with the idea of operating two roller shutters "at once" (1 window 2 roller shutters) from a double bell but I would really like to avoid this.

damwojt wrote:

In my mind solutions like 1 click -> up -> 2 stop clicks -> long 3s hold -> down are born. But it is a complicated solution.

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I would write that very complicated, already click up and hold 3s down is more feasible but it will be quite annoying in daily use.

You could try remembering the last movement of the blinds; e.g. if the last one was down, then: 1 click -> up+time, next one (in time) -> stop, next one-> down+time etc....

Controlling a roller shutter with a bell button will, by definition, be inconvenient. You can think of ways to do this, but each will have serious drawbacks. The above method will be ok if the blinds open/close to the correct position at once. If it wants to in the same direction (e.g. lower/raise a little lower if the setting or rising sun is glaring) it will already be complicated.... And the author has 6 roller blinds. This way, he will probably be quickly discouraged from using the roller blinds and maybe he will remember the long-forgotten curses....

Schedules and some kind of automation could be a simplification - but there is no information about the functional requirements - how the Author intends to use the roller shutters most often. With these in place, manual control of the roller shutters could be limited in terms of daily, schematic scenarios and manual control occasionally.
By adding phone control options - with options such as favourite positions, maybe weather automation, you could reduce the use of awkward switches almost to zero.
You can use some kind of controller for roller shutters - e.g. ZAMEL SRW-01, ShutterBox and use their inputs.

pafciowaw wrote:

You could try remembering the last movement of the blinds; e.g. if the last one was down, then: 1 click -> up+time, next one (in time) -> stop, next one-> down+time etc...

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Take into account that in the integra, with the roller shutter output, stop is a violation of the input controlling the roller shutter output in the opposite direction to the currently performed movement of the roller shutter, I am not saying that it is not feasible with one roller shutter, but with several / a dozen, the resources of the control panel will quickly be exhausted.