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Controlling roller shutters centrally and locally without radio systems - how to do it?

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  • #1 16436347
    ePasjonat
    Level 8  
    Hi, I have a bit of a similar problem, well my finishers were faced with wiring up the switches. I have 5 roller shutters, each was to be controlled independently by a switch in the room but at the entrance to the flat, there was to be one global switch. They don't know how to do this without radio toys. From the switch at the entrance to the flat go 4-wire wires to each roller shutter.

    Can you help so that I, as a layman, can give them directions?
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  • #3 16436417
    lamerb
    Level 25  
    Since the wires are 4 conductors it remains radio. For "cable" control complying with current regulations, 5 cores are needed.
    Affordable radio controllers are available from the Polish INEL.
  • #4 16436426
    kokapetyl
    Level 43  
    lamerb wrote:
    For "cable" control complying with current regulations, 5 wires are required.
    .
    Can you explain this, what is this fifth conductor for ?
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  • #6 16436460
    kokapetyl
    Level 43  
    lamerb wrote:
    Protection (PE)?
    .
    This is only one conductor. What about the rest ?
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  • #7 16436479
    lamerb
    Level 25  
    I do not want to elaborate unnecessarily. Look for schematics for RCS controllers. If there is no PE then 4 wires will suffice.
  • #8 16436533
    kokapetyl
    Level 43  
    lamerb wrote:
    I don't want to elaborate unnecessarily. Look for schematics for RCS controllers
    .
    Ok, I guess you were right.
  • #9 16436770
    ePasjonat
    Level 8  
    So if they made me 4-wire I should tell them to change to 5-wire? They have misled me.

    I'm also thinking of Fibaro, it's a wireless control but their roller shutter modules have inputs for manual control. May I ask as a layman? Every roller shutter switch in the shops has a bell etc. so in order not to have to hold the button in order to activate the roller shutter and for it to be a single click, you have to buy roller shutter controllers that have a sort of timer and let the voltage go so you don't have to hold the switch, yes? Do I understand you correctly?
  • #10 16437319
    lamerb
    Level 25  
    INEL also has radio controls but with the possibility of connecting a local key button. Not every switch is a "bell" switch. There are two types. If there is going to be a central control, it has to be the "bell" one, and the maintenance is carried out by the electronics of the controller.
  • #11 16437367
    ditomek
    Level 22  
    @ePassionate help me understand this properly.
    There are 4 stranded wires going from where the central control is to each blind?

    In each louvre box you have the end of this wire as well as the wire from the louvre and the power from the switchboard?

Topic summary

The discussion addresses how to centrally and locally control five roller shutters using wired switches without relying on radio systems. The original wiring plan involved 4-core cables from a central switch to each shutter, but current regulations and practical control schemes typically require 5-core cables, including a protective earth (PE) conductor. The fifth conductor is essential for safety and compliance. For local and central control integration, "bell" type momentary switches are recommended, as they send a pulse to roller shutter controllers that handle timing and motor activation, eliminating the need to hold the button continuously. Roller shutter controllers such as RCS models or modules from Fibaro (which support wireless control with manual switch inputs) can manage this functionality. INEL offers affordable radio controllers with local key button inputs, but purely cable-based control demands appropriate wiring and compatible controllers. The central control switch must be wired correctly with the local switches and the roller shutter motors, ensuring proper power supply and signal distribution. The discussion emphasizes the importance of correct wiring (5-core cables) and suitable controller electronics to achieve combined local and central control without radio systems.
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