The UPC Connect Box router connected to the antenna cable (?) and the TV

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Hi, At the beginning, I would like to add that I do not know about cables, etc., so I am asking for a pathological translation :) Is it possible that...

KOCUREK1970 · Accepted Answer

Therefore, this terrestrial TV and internet with UPC must be run in the apartment with 2 separate, independent wires. For example, if you have a socket somewhere and there is UPC internet with a modem connected, you will not have terrestrial television in this socket if there is only one cable going there.

Anonymous · Accepted Answer

From this drawing I get the following:

1.
On the green cable, between the wall and the entrance of the router, you can give the appropriate splitter and connect the red cable to it.
Then there is an IP on the router and a TV signal in QAM in the red socket, if there is one in the cable entering the apartment. The condition is the appropriate level of signals in the UPC cable, but usually the split into two can be given with impunity.

The splitter is e.g. DSS2 Teleste or some equivalent.

2.
The second option is to extend the blue cable and lead it from the cage to the apartment, and in the apartment to connect it to the red cable.
Then on the red socket there will be a signal from AIZ (DVB-T?). as long as there is a signal in the blue cable. If there is no, you would probably have to negotiate with AIZ maintenance to turn it on.

Grzegorz740 · Accepted Answer

Isn't it sometimes necessary to use such a splitter: http://www.satserwis.pl/pokaz.php?nazwa=oferta/24/2489.dat to have an IP on the router? Because the one you gave is an ordinary splitter that is designed to split the TV signal.

cysiekw · Answer

look for something like this https://2.allegroimg.com/s512/0378d0/933796284c2c906fa9daa35d5002/GNIAZDO-MULTIMEDIALNE-GMF350-R-TV-DATA-2472 cable with one cable allows you to transmit tv and internet (DOCSIS) somewhere there should be a separate cable for data and tv, or in the socket on the wall you have a split, see where this cable goes

Anonymous · Answer

There is only UPC signal in the cable connected to the router's COAX connector. But in this signal, depending on the location and contract, in addition to IP, there may also be television packages (QAM), both free and paid. The free package can also be an equivalent of AIZ, if the building has an appropriate agreement with UPC and then it is available to all residents of the building. You need a QAM decoder or a QAM receiving TV for reception.

AIZ as an integral building installation is always a separate cable.

However, the cabling described by you is completely incomprehensible to me - what, where, where and with what... Make a freehand sketch of what you have at home and want to achieve.

Grzegorz740 · Answer

You don't have a TV and internet package with UPC?

You wrote that : The previous owners of the apartment did not use the TV, but they ran a cable from the RTV socket, which is to meet the cable from the antenna at some point, and I have to connect them to be able to watch TV. From which antenna is this wire supposed to meet?

KOCUREK1970 · Answer

No, the socket must have DATA ports. The free TV signal is in digital technology, in the DVB-C cable standard. To receive this, there must be either an external decoder or one built into the TV - but it must be a DVB-C decoder. In addition, somewhere this cable to the TV socket must come together with the cable with the Internet, which means that you have to connect it together with a special splitter: Teleste 3DSS2 Who is this contract for? Is there a record in it that there is also a TV service with the net? This is a cable with a signal only UPC. It is not allowed to connect anything additionally from other antennas there. My good advice - check with the operator if you have TV from UPC at all, if so, then call the operator's service (PLN 50 paid, added to the subscriber's invoice) and let the service technician take care of everything. In fact, you have no right to tinker with the operator's network alone.

Anonymous · Answer

only I don't want UPC TV, only terrestrial I'm not going to bury anything there, the previous owner just said that he brought a cable from the collective antenna to the apartment, so I'm looking for it but since you say that the cable that goes to the router is only UPC from the internet, it looks like there is no cable from the common antenna and I have to get a foreman to let me have a cable in my apartment

Anonymous · Answer

Hm, AIZ is such an installation that it is either in the form of an RTV socket or there is none. There's nothing to hold on to yourself. You can only run a cable between rooms. It may also be that the cable company switched your AIZ cable to its network in the shaft in the staircase, thus connecting its service to the previous tenant without having to pull his cable. Just ask the building administration if there is an AIZ.

Anonymous · Answer

old building, all cables for TV, telephones and the Internet go through the staircase (partly hidden behind the masking, so I can't locate everything anyway, from the side of the staircase, the cables enter the apartment, the previous owner made an RTV socket in one of the rooms and pulled the cable through the whole apartment, so that one day it would be possible to connect the antenna cable coming from the staircase. He said that this cable from the cage is let into the apartment and it is enough to connect it with the one drawn through the apartment, but it seems that the antenna cable needs to be inserted into the apartment.

KOCUREK1970 · Answer

However, I will refer to the wires in the apartment... Pray that the cable in the apartment, if it was laid by an electrician, is smart - so that these wires in the apartment are laid on the so-called star (each room, point has its own, separate cable) rather than the so-called series (there is only one cable, from the socket to the nests). In the first case (star cables) there is a chance for terrestrial television, in the second case (serial) due to the inadmissibility of mixing / combining the cable signal with the terrestrial signal, it is "via the lines" with terrestrial television. So first, make sure what and how you have in your apartment, because it determines the sense of further actions with bringing a terrestrial TV signal to your apartment.

Anonymous · Answer

As far as I know, there is 1 antenna cable and 1 socket

Anonymous · Answer

Maybe it's different - there is one cable entering the apartment from the staircase and running directly to the RTV socket, and then from the socket to the router?

Is there any printing on this coax cable?
Can you provide a picture of the TV socket?

Anonymous · Answer

No no

there is a cable that looks like an antenna going directly to the router to the Coax socket (in the router), it came out from the conversation that it probably goes straight from the UPC box.
And there is a cable running from the RTV socket, which is waiting for connection with the cable going to the collective antenna id. It turned out that this cable going from the collective antenna is not let into the apartment

jprzedworski · Answer

There used to be collective antennas with a system of amplifiers, splitters, etc. and analog television. Now even terrestrial television has its own digital system. Even if the current collective antennas work, because no one wanted to disassemble it, it does not necessarily have to work on the appropriate frequency of digital platforms. But all that's left of these old installations is the cable. The rest was dismantled because it only consumed electricity. And the UPC signal, also digital, does not include terrestrial television. If you are close to the transmitter, you can try an indoor antenna.

Anonymous · Answer

As far as I know, collective antennas are new and supposedly receive everything, only stumps of cables remain after the old installation

marmon · Answer

hi

if you have DVB-C in the TV set, you can connect the coax to the UPC socket and from the socket to the router and to the TV set.

I have a splitter and a cable goes everywhere in the apartment to every room, there is a tv/router/lan socket ...

btw... upc has dvb-t terrestrial channels for free

Anonymous · Answer

I am just planning to buy a TV with DVB-C, S and T. And I hope that thanks to the collective antenna, it will cover terrestrial and free satellite. By UPC socket you mean the upc box/can, so to speak, in the stairwell? Because I don't know how it all works, but would it be possible to make such a trick that the cable from the UPC box and the cable from the antenna would be connected in 1 cable that would go to the RTV socket, so that, in addition to terrestrial and satellite, the TV also receives these free UPC channels? - I don't have the option to put the router next to the RTV socket, and I don't want to trip over cables

KOCUREK1970 · Answer

No, combining the DOCSIS signal with any other signal is not allowed.

Anonymous · Answer

Ok, and you can do it so that there is a split with the cable from the UPC box and some of it goes to the router, and happiness is "loose", and if UPC has a channel that it wants to watch, I disconnect the cable from the cable going to the RTV socket antenna, and I connect this split with UPC? To watch TV from UPC instead of TV from the antenna?

KOCUREK1970 · Answer

@xyz0123 Honestly, draw how you see it because I don't understand anything from your translation - draw where this splitter you want to give, what to branch and what and where to connect. And an additional question - you have a router from UPC in the same room as the TV?

Anonymous · Answer

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Anonymous · Answer

Thank you for your advice LG UN series, should probably give advice ;) No, the router is in the hall. I've attached an amateur picture None of these cables connect black - the outline of the hall with the router and the room with the TV socket yellow - outline of the staircase blue - antenna cable - goes from the collective antenna, somewhere along the staircase, so far it does not enter the apartment green - the cable, most likely from the UPC box, enters the Coax socket in the router in the hall red - the antenna cable going from the RTV socket to the corridor, where it should be connected to the blue cable to receive the signal from the antenna the question is, if UPC has free channels, can you make a split on the green cable, so that one end goes to the router, and the other end can be connected to the red one instead of the blue one, to pick up channels from UPC on the TV? To replace the green cable with the blue one and vice versa if necessary.

KOCUREK1970 · Answer

Do you have a box in your apartment where all the coax cables from the whole apartment converge to this one point/place? Because from what you drew, the wires go from socket to socket ...

Anonymous · Answer

these are the only coax wires I know about, I also know about no boxes, the wires (red and green) do not connect but "can reach each other" on the shelf in the corridor (blue is outside the apartment, probably in some box).

KOCUREK1970 · Answer

@xyz0123 Well, as I wrote before: Without a specific answer from you, it is impossible to answer anything else, just that the star wiring variant gives you some chance of what you want to do (with terrestrial TV / TV from UPC), the serial variant gives only a chance and a slim one that there was only TV from UPC.

Anonymous · Answer

Oh, that's what I meant :)

If I do both options - the splitter on the green and the pull-up of the blue one, can I plug in the one I want to the red one? Will it require a different connection between the red RTV socket and the TV set?

Anonymous · Answer

Yes, you could flip over. Only then, when unscrewing the red cable from the splitter, should the F socket of the splitter hanging in the air be tightened with a matched 75 Ohm load, so as not to introduce too much garbage into the UPC cable unnecessarily. Not very comfortable.

Anonymous · Answer

This is no ordinary splitter. UPC no longer uses such solutions with the kz blocker.

[Solved] The UPC Connect Box router connected to the antenna cable (?) and the TV