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Wiring 4 Infrared Barriers for Intruder Detection and Lighting Control

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  • #1 19066687
    Marcin9188
    Level 9  
    Hello !!!

    I have a question about how best to wire 4 infrared barriers that will and surround the whole house in a square.
    The barriers are to signal the entrance of an intruder and light up two floodlights for a period of 5min after dark.

    Technical specifications of the barriers:

    range: up to 100m (outside), up to 300m (inside)
    number of beams: 2
    alarm output: relay NO/NC: AC/DC 30V, max. 1A
    horizontal adjustment range: 180° (± 90°)
    vertical adjustment range: 20° (± 10°)
    beam interruption time: 50 – 700 ms (adjustable)
    operating temperature: -25°...+55°C
    supply voltage: 12-24V DC
    current consumption: 65mA max.
    dimensions: 170 x 80 x 75 mm

    power supply I have 12VDC
    How best to do this. How to connect the detector give 12VDC power to the relay output of each detector and in parallel connect to the 12VDC relay. Then onto the timer relay. And on two poles a twilight detector. Do you handle the relay output differently.

    Regards
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  • #2 19066766
    moze-byc
    Level 29  
    Setting up the barriers is something you can probably handle. You will power them with appropriate cable . It is known that they will be away from the house and the power will go underground, so you need an underground cable. Cross-section to be selected later. As both the control and the power supply are low voltage, you can run both in one 3-wire cable (power, ground and signal). At each detector you bridge the power supply to the relay input, with a 24V power supply in the switchboard.
    To extend the switch-on time of the lights, you need a time relay. I suggest something like BIS-413 24V. There you set the switch-off delay time. Add a 24V/230V relay, for example model PK1P-24V or PK2P-24V. From the output of this relay you control the lighting.

    And I forgot about twilight switches. What options do you have for mounting them and what models?
    Draw the layout of the barriers and posts at all to make the situation clear.
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  • #3 19067807
    Marcin9188
    Level 9  
    Below I have provided a sitemap and the distances of the various barriers and cables.
    I wanted to use 4 barriers. On the lighting poles AZ-B twilight sensors.
    I see that this BIS relay has a 5 min time signal hold in the design, which I am interested in.
    Only now with the connection of this signal from the barriers I'm a little lost as to how best to do this as I will have the cable route prepared.
    I run UTPw cables to the cameras everywhere so I can add the necessary wiring to the detectors.

    "At each detector you are bridging the power to the relay input" this is beyond my understanding."

    Below is the schematic and how these inputs connect to the relay.

    Regards
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    #4 19067857
    moze-byc
    Level 29  
    Marcin9188 wrote:
    On lighting poles AZ-B twilight sensors.

    And why 2 sensors? One module in the switchboard plus one sensor on the pole is enough. I would suggest leaving the one on the post odb1/over2.
    Now yes, to the post above1/odb4 a 3 wire cable. 24V, ground and signal. You supply both devices with 24V, to the receiver having a NO output you supply 24V on one side and a third wire, the so-called signal wire, on the other.
    For the post nad2/odb1 you need one 3-wire cable (connection as above), one 2-wire cable for the lighting sensor and one 3-wire cable with 230V for the floodlight.
    To the odb2/nad3 post, a 3-wire cable for the transmitter+receiver pair as standard, a cable connecting the odb2/nad3 post to odb3/nad4 also 3-wire. Also to odb3/nad4 a 3-core cable to power the floodlight.
    What are the decorative lamps? For what voltage? If 230V then additional 3-core cables to power the decorative lamps.
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  • #5 19068010
    Rysiek2
    CCTV and Stationary Alarms specialist
    Marcin9188 wrote:
    I have a question as to how best to wire 4 infrared barriers that will and surround the whole house in a square.
    The barriers are to signal the entry of an intruder and light up two floodlights for a period of 5min after dark.
    .

    It is supposed to signal, who is it supposed to signal to?
    What is the point of this solution.
    If it is supposed to improve the safety of the facility then the opposite is true. Instead of improving it basically discredits this part of the system completely.
  • #6 19068234
    Marcin9188
    Level 9  
    I don't know if I'm discrediting, but the floodlights are supposed to illuminate the courtyard in the dark, as burning floodlights all night annoy the neighbours. I could connect the signal to the control panel that operates the alarm inside the building. I could use motion detectors to light the lamps, but as I found out, the range of these detectors is poor.

    Regards
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  • #7 19068483
    Rysiek2
    CCTV and Stationary Alarms specialist
    Marcin9188 wrote:
    Barriers are to signal the entry of an intruder and light up two floodlights for a period of 5min after dark.


    Marcin9188 wrote:
    the floodlights are to illuminate the courtyard in the dark, as burning floodlights all night annoy the neighbours.


    As I understand it, the floodlights are intended to show an intruder the way so that he does not hurt himself.
  • #8 19068741
    bhtom
    Level 38  
    Welcome,

    Marcin9188 wrote:
    I have a question about how best to wire 4 infrared barriers that will and surround the whole house in a square.
    The barriers are to signal the entrance of an intruder and light up two floodlights for a period of 5min after dark.
    .

    In my opinion a completely pointless solution... The intruder will cross the barrier line, trigger the lighting switch-on time, wait those 5 minutes, the light will go out and he can move around the facility at will without turning the lights back on....

    Regards.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around wiring four infrared barriers for intruder detection and floodlight control around a house. The user seeks advice on connecting the barriers, which have a range of up to 100m outdoors and require a 12-24V DC power supply. Suggestions include using a 3-wire cable for power, ground, and signal connections, and employing a timer relay (BIS-413) to control the floodlights for a duration of 5 minutes after activation. Concerns are raised about the effectiveness of the system, particularly regarding the potential for intruders to exploit the delay in lighting activation. The user also considers integrating twilight sensors (AZ-B) to manage lighting based on ambient light conditions.
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