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Lighting with motion detection - switching, dimming by remote and push button control

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  • #1 16817571
    jojoro
    Level 12  
    I want to make lighting in front of my house according to the following scenario:
    I buy some LED floodlight with a motion and dusk sensor (or a motion and dusk sensor separately - whatever)
    By default the LED turns on as intended - someone walks by then it lights up for say 1 minute.
    But I want to be able to switch this lamp on permanently from a button in the house when I go out with the dog in the evening - so that it doesn't blink senselessly.
    I also want to be able to switch this light off from the house using a button - sometimes when it's blowing hard the motion sensors are triggered unnecessarily by some leaves etc., or when I'm leaving and no one will be there.
    In addition, I want to be able to control this with a remote control (preferably radio, eventually an app for my phone). So that I drive up to the gate, snap on and regardless of whether the house was switched on with the button or not the LED switches on permanently. Of course, I also want to be able to reset the lighting to normal and turn it off completely.

    I have no idea how to go about this. I don't have any automation like KNX, Fibaro etc in the house and for the moment I don't plan to - I just want to get such a solution in one lighting point.
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  • #2 16817609
    kokapetyl
    Level 43  
    You need two switches.
    The first to cut the power to the motion detector (total shutdown)
    Another one to connect the power supply directly to the LED (permanent switching on of the lights)
    With this remote control, it's already more complicated, you need to use switches prepared for this.
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  • #3 16817745
    gkwiatkowski
    CCTV and Stationary Alarms specialist
    kokapetyl wrote:
    With this remote control it is already more complicated, you have to use connectors prepared for this.
    .

    Any Proxima, Elmes, Gorka or other radio. In some cases an additional relay will be required for 230V control.
    Or Extra Free from Zamela. There is an option for smartphone control.
  • #4 16819824
    jojoro
    Level 12  
    Can I ask for a schematic for this?
    Would it be possible to use something from Xiaomi instead of Zamel? I think I am becoming more and more convinced.
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  • #5 16819876
    suworow
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    kokapetyl wrote:
    You need two switches.
    The first to cut the power to the motion detector (total shutdown).
    Another one you connect the power directly to the LED (switch on the lighting permanently)
    .
    Correct. Also note that the detector will trigger the output when power is applied and thus activate the lighting for a set time. To avoid this another relay is needed. The detector in this circuit is powered all the time. Of course, all the time we are talking about a system where the lamp and the detector are two separate devices ( well, unless some Chinese finally came up with the idea that the built-in detector should have an additional triggering input :) ). What it will be controlled from ( smartphone, remote control) is a secondary matter. The most important thing in this is the electrical system.
    What is your budget?
    Have you considered controlling the lighting from the gate automation?
    kind regards
  • #6 16819891
    jojoro
    Level 12  
    I make no secret of the fact that budget matters. I found a 50W IP 66 LED floodlight (I hope it will be IP66 enough) on alle gro for 50zl, a motion/dusk sensor ip65 - 30zl. I will possibly choose ordinary switches/wifi switches. I will pull the cables myself, I will only call an electrician to connect them. However, I would like to somehow guide the electrician to the right solution, because while such simple installations he does without a problem, there is no one in the area who can handle something more complicated. If there is a diagram it will be easier. Recently, when an electrician installed a cross-connector + 2 staircase switches in my staircase, it took him 4 hours before he managed to do it by trial and error.
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  • #7 16820586
    bhtom
    Level 38  
    Welcome,

    jojoro wrote:
    Recently when an electrician was installing a cross-connector+2 staircase switch on my staircase, it took him 4 hours before he figured it out by trial and error.


    First of all, I suggest you change your electrician, if that's what your "professional" can even be called since he doesn't know the basics....

    Secondly, why switch off the LED illuminator while the householder is away?
    After all, it doesn't consume that much electricity and will always be some sort of intruder deterrent.

    I would do the whole thing on a two-channel radio link with two external relays controlled from the radio link.
    The first channel would be set as bistable - switching the illuminator on and off, with the motion detector having power all the time. The second channel as monostable, with a timer of e.g.: 10 minutes to switch on the illuminator for when the dog is out.
    And one more thing... If you set the motion sensor for e.g.: 5 minutes, then if you walk with your dog in the sensor's detection field, nothing will flash for you. The sensor counts down after the last detected movement, so you would have to stand still for 5 minutes for the light to be switched off.

    Greetings.
  • #8 16821256
    jojoro
    Level 12  
    I have no electrician to change to. In my village there is no electrician with a licence (one who can sign the acceptance papers). And they still have their hands full working on all the schools, offices and residents. There simply isn't enough of anyone here, and even those who are, are busy for months ahead. That's why I wanted to ask my colleagues here, so that the electrician doesn't get confused and I'm left with the problem and having to search the world for someone.
    I want to switch off the LED light mainly so that it doesn't flash in the wind. I have one lamppost with a motion sensor at the front door and so I know what it's like. When suddenly some leaves start flying or branches from the neighbour's trees wiggle too much - I don't know, then the sensor activates the light every now and then. I can see this through the bedroom windows and it annoys me so I want to be able to switch it off.

    As for those dog walks, that's the thing, I won't be in the sensor's field of operation but about 100m away - that's my plot of land 12m wide by 150m long. I also don't want to light up the whole field, I prefer to walk in the dark under the stars, and leave the lighting on for a few minutes so I don't trip on a kerb in front of the house, get to the gate, etc. ;p
    I think I made sense of my needs in the first post - I just need advice on implementation, not a change of concept.
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