Radio 357 - problem with programming stations on the internet radio

Last year, on aliexpress, you could buy such a tiny Audiocast M5 device for a few dozen zlotys and connect it to any amplifier. It works quite decently and you control it with your smartphone.
Unfortunately, today you will not find it there anymore, but it is available in Polish stores, but it costs twice as much.
This is supported by vTuner, among other things.

Walery K wrote:

Last year, on aliexpress, you could buy such a tiny Audiocast M5 device for a few dozen zlotys and connect it to any amplifier. It works quite decently and you control it with your smartphone.
Unfortunately, today you will not find it there anymore, but it is available in Polish stores, but it costs twice as much.
This is supported by vTuner, among other things.

Or the bluetooh logitech transmitter is a bit cheaper and also straight from the smartphone to the amplifier. I have been using it for a long time and it works great.

Only the Audiocast M5 works independently of the smartphone. The smartphone is only needed to start or change the currently received program for the first time. You can also adjust the volume with it.

Yes, the M5 audiocast works independently of a smartphone you need your smartphone ONLY to turn on and change the channel.
via bluetooh transmitter logitech you can connect a smartphone or computer and also a smartphone or computer is needed ONLY to turn on and change the channel
Everyone can choose what will be more convenient and cheaper for him.
I do not insist on my proposal but it shows a different solution. Best regards.

Polon_us wrote:

duszysko wrote:

We are waiting for an update.

The problem lies not with the update.

Please carefully and slowly read your colleague's entry # 18 @krokodylowy .

The problem is the audio format in which the 357 radio broadcasts.
I put it wrong - the problem is the lack of audio formats streamed by this radio.
The one broadcast at present is not accepted by receivers of some manufacturers - as above

I confirm that Radio 357 appeared on vTuner - it is probably the only radio broadcast on AAC stream. So I still do not receive it on the Yamaha RXA 810 receiver. Nobody from the radio responds to e-mails and messages sent from FB, with a request to add an MP3 128 stream. Is there someone who managed to contact Radio 357 regarding this matter?

I tried, no response to the contact attempt. Perhaps they would respond if someone from the Patrons group tried to contact.
But how can you become a Patron if not the ability to listen? Thank goodness there are other radio programs.

Radio 357, which appeared on vTuner on my Yamaha RN 500, works, you have to wait a bit until it clicks and I do not see RDS but it works and shows the RealPlayer 128K format
So far, I received it by adding it to vTuner myself, using the advice of my colleague Polon_us and streaming, which was provided by my colleague Qubus from Open fm.
Or via Blauth from your smartphone to the amplifier.

My Pioneer N-30 player plays R357 but no RDS and 32 kbps. RNS stream from vTuner shows error.

Speaking of what to listen to. Works great on Amazon Alexa.

Krzysiu50627 wrote:

RNS stream from vTuner shows bug.

This may be a bug on the vTuner side.
If I were a friend, I would go to the RNŚ website, copy the link to the stream and use the vTuner "Add station" function to add this address to the receiver's memory by myself. The station will probably show up in the "Added station" tab.

I recommend the 256kbps mp3 stream - the game is full

Polon_us wrote:

Krzysiu50627 wrote:

RNS stream from vTuner shows bug.

This may be a bug on the vTuner side.
If I were a friend, I would go to the RNŚ website, copy the link to the stream and use the vTuner "Add station" function to add this address to the receiver's memory by myself. The station will probably show up in the "Added station" tab.

I recommend the 256kbps mp3 stream - the game is full

I think my answer flew into the air. It again:
First of all, thank you very much for your help. Coming to the matter, unfortunately my attempts to encode via stream did not help. The message "file format not supported" is displayed. I am strange because all other stations in a similar format are available and no problem (even in AAC). However, there is a different problem with the R357. Pioneer vTuner App Finder does not find R357. Only manual search ..... but after trying to play, another station "Radio Nysa" pops up. I wrote to vTuners about it and no response. You can see such a class of concentrator.

Hello
I agree with TOM_Yamaha and soul.
Nobody from Radio responds to inquiries.
I have the same problem with the Pioneer VSX920 ampli.
I am waiting for the address in the form of http: // ......... mp3
It's good that the "New World" is flying

Krzysiu50627 wrote:

Only manual search ..... but after trying to play, another station "Radio Nysa" pops up.

Hmm, on the previous page of this topic, the streaming addresses for radio 357 are listed.
A colleague will review the instructions for this receiver. It tells you how to add a station to the receiver directly, i.e. bypassing the vTuner service, having its streaming address.
This can also be checked for RNŚ addresses - they are listed on their website.
Please remember that you must enter exactly, without unnecessary spaces, before or after the address.

Polon_us wrote:

Krzysiu50627 wrote:

Only manual search ..... but after trying to play, another station "Radio Nysa" pops up.

Hmm, on the previous page of this topic, the streaming addresses for radio 357 are listed.
A colleague will review the instructions for this receiver. It tells you how to add a station to the receiver directly, i.e. bypassing the vTuner service, having its streaming address.
This can also be checked for RNŚ addresses - they are listed on their website.
Please remember that you have to specify exactly, without unnecessary before or after the address.

Unfortunately, all stations play LINN, RMF, TOK FM, Melo, WNET, RAM, even Radio Zielona Góra in AAC etc. and RNŚ and R357 do not. I gave the addresses and nothing .... All that's left for me is AirPlay.
It's a pity .... Thank you again for your time and willingness to help. best regards

I am the patron of 357. At the beginning I asked the FB group about mp3 stream. Unfortunately, from the answers it can be concluded that the chances of this are slim (old technology). So far I am listening from any smartphone (even Lumia on W8) via BT on the amplifier. I tried with a transmitter called X8 (BT to FM). He gave up the ghost after one day of use. (this is called scheduled aging of the equipment - 24 hours of operation and to the trash)

patsi2 wrote:

I am the patron of 357. At the beginning I asked the FB group about mp3 stream. Unfortunately, from the answers it can be concluded that the chances of this are slim (old technology).

So the patrons, however, respond. Thanks for the information.

patsi2 wrote:

He gave up the ghost after one day of use. (this is called scheduled aging of the equipment - 24 hours of operation and to the trash)

It's still good that you are on the electrode because you listened for 24 hours, if you, for example, first read an audiophile forum and had to "heat" the device and cables for a hundred hours
you wouldn't even know if it was a game.

It cannot be said that they do not change anything because new streams have appeared. According to Community Radio Browser, there are now a total of 9 of them, 2 of which are in ACC +. Maybe someday they will add at least one in mp3.

Ladies and Gentlemen,
However, I decided to inquire about the matter that I mentioned earlier. Please explain the reason why the R357 and RNŚ cannot be played through my Pioneer N30 player. Is this player not technically capable of accepting the format being broadcast? My attempts to add these stations by pioneer.vtuner despite finding them in the list have not been successful. Adding a direct stream as well. The player displays a playback error. From this he concludes that it is a question of the broadcast format. Can you please clarify the issue.
best regards
Christopher

If I were a colleague, I would reset this Pioneer to the factory settings. In my opinion, it is impossible that this receiver cannot pick up even a regular mp3. And RNŚ also broadcasts in this format.

A colleague will restore the receiver to the factory settings and check again.
There are 5 direct addresses listed on the RNŚ website, please test them one by one.
Move the address using "Copy and Paste" - without unnecessary spaces, via vTuner.

Also, a colleague can test the following RNF stream addresses:

https://stream.nowyswiat.online/mp3
http://stream.open.fm/368

Polon_us wrote:

If I were a colleague, I would reset this Pioneer to the factory settings. In my opinion, it is impossible that this receiver cannot pick up even a regular mp3. And RNŚ also broadcasts in this format.

A colleague will restore the receiver to the factory settings and check again.
There are 5 direct addresses listed on the RNŚ website, please test them one by one.
Move the address using "Copy and Paste" - without unnecessary spaces, via vTuner.

Also, a colleague can test the following RNF stream addresses:

https://stream.nowyswiat.online/mp3
http://stream.open.fm/368

Unfortunately, buddy,
I performed a factory reset and then my attempts to stream the stream were unsuccessful. I pasted all possible addresses very carefully (no spaces). Additional information, when I choose from the list of stations directly at the time of acceptance (e.g. R357), the station below jumps into this place. This is very strange because other addresses encoded in different formats are played without problems.

best regards

Well, I give up, I'm down with this Pioneer
If I were a friend, I would try to change the internet radio receiver to something from Ocean Digital - the WR10 model.

I am tired of whether it is only my friend's receiver that has an ailment, or is this model generally so. Maybe another user of this Pioneer N-30 model will respond and share his experiences.

PS The colleague will finally check if there is any software update for your receiver.

kolesp wrote:

It cannot be said that they do not change anything because new streams have appeared. According to Community Radio Browser, there are now a total of 9 of them, 2 of which are in ACC +. Maybe someday they will add at least one in mp3.

Now there is mp3 / 128 kbps

https://www.radio-browser.info/#!/byname/357

rafalson wrote:

kolesp wrote:

It cannot be said that they do not change anything because new streams have appeared. According to Community Radio Browser, there are now a total of 9 of them, 2 of which are in ACC +. Maybe someday they will add at least one in mp3.

Now there is mp3 / 128 kbps

https://www.radio-browser.info/#!/byname/357

and more precisely such:

http://n16a-eu.rcs.revma.com/an1ugyygzk8uv?rj-ttl=5&rj-tok=AAABd-2TgQcAYhVSeWK54T7iIQ

patsi2 wrote:

rafalson wrote:

kolesp wrote:

It cannot be said that they do not change anything because new streams have appeared. According to Community Radio Browser, there are now a total of 9 of them, 2 of which are in ACC +. Maybe someday they will add at least one in mp3.

Now there is mp3 / 128 kbps

https://www.radio-browser.info/#!/byname/357

and more precisely such:

http://n16a-eu.rcs.revma.com/an1ugyygzk8uv?rj-ttl=5&rj-tok=AAABd-2TgQcAYhVSeWK54T7iIQ

This is enough:
http://n05a-eu.rcs.revma.com/an1ugyygzk8uv

mp3 128kbps

Well, that's nice of them. That I still have a Pionek, I will give him this address and see if it works.

Because in the meantime I changed the amp to the Denon AVR-X1600 Dab. This one supports aac.

To a colleague from Pioneer N-30. It's not a matter of format, but of how to handle streams on the revma.com platform. Any stream address is temporary and the first response is 302 moved. The address, after pasting into the browser, changes almost every now and then - the beginning is different, the value of the rj-tok variable is different
The oldest Pioneer N-30/50 cannot cope with it. Therefore, calling from the RNŚ directory ends with playing the next Radio Nysa station in the directory. You could add the full address that will appear in the browser in vtuner, but as I wrote before, it is valid for 5 minutes. Before each station change you would have to update it.
The 357 is a bit different, because someone added the stream address from openFM in vtuner. There is no this mechanism with 302 moved, so it works, but also the stream quality calls for vengeance (32kbps).
Of course, the N-30/50 cannot cope with https and all addresses must always be entered as http.

To sum up. To enjoy 357 and RNW on old N-30/50:
- add the stream address from openFM and swallow its low quality
- buy a BT200 module and use Bluetooth or, alternatively, Airplay
- set up a web server with php and scripts generate pls files containing current addresses of 357 and RNŚ streams. Links to these pls write vtuner as your own.
- replace it with a newer model with A in the name, which has no problems with 302 moved support

@borkokrz - thank you for explaining the Pioneer N-30 problem.

Hello colleagues,
maybe someone will be able to satisfy my curiosity.
The point is that I would like to know how much transfer is consumed by radio 357, Radio Nowy Świat and others, or maybe there is some table of transfer consumption by individual radio stations somewhere?

With a standard audio stream bit rate of 128 kbps, the transfer is approximately 1MB of data for 1 (one) minute.

Polon_us, Thanks for the answer, and maybe you know how to check the bit rate of the 357 radio application on android?