Control of six LED lamps by ASW-210 with one power supply: limitations, costs

Hi

I have an alley in front of my house which I want to light with six LED lamps with twilight control. As I already have an INTEGRA, ABAX2 and a twilight detector, the natural choice was to control the lamps using the ASW-210 controller. The problem is that the manual says that only one LED power supply should be connected to one relay. This complicates, and actually makes the installation more expensive, as these drivers are not cheap. One and six is almost £1,000 difference. What does the restriction to one power supply per circuit entail? Is there any way around this? I keep my lamp wiring as simple as possible. From lamp to lamp, a single 3x2.5 cable. I have planned the driver on the first lamp and the rest in parallel.

Do you have the power cable from the lamps near the control panel?

sosarek wrote:

Power cable from lamps do you have near the control panel?

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No. I don't know which direction you are going, but only wireless control is an option.

chudy_b wrote:

What does the restriction to one power supply per circuit entail? Is there any way around this?

Probably with concern for the module relay contacts, as led power supplies are capacitive or inductive loads. You can get around this by using a relay with a 230V coil.

chudy_b wrote:

No. I don't know which direction you are going

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This is how you would derive the control from OUT via a 12/230V relay....

kood wrote:

chudy_b wrote:

What does the restriction to one power supply per circuit entail? Is there any way around this?

Probably with concern for the module relay contacts, as led power supplies are capacitive or inductive loads. You can get around this by using a relay with a 230V coil.

And that's the idea. I will buy the relay from a few zlotys. Just isn't the coil of the relay an inductive load? From what I have read, however, an inductive load is less dangerous for the relay. In a capacitive one, the circuit is practically short-circuited at the beginning and the contacts get their asses handed to them. In inductive, the current persists in the circuit for a while after the power is removed, but the contacts are still open. There is just some risk of sparking. 100nF/600V capacitor in parallel?

chudy_b wrote:

Only isn't the relay coil an inductive load?

It's not that you can't connect inductive or capacitive loads to the ASW, because if you did, this module would be useless. It simply has to be taken into account that the maximum relay contact load is specified by the manufacturer for resistive loads.

The coil of a 230V relay consumes a few or several mA, so there is no problem.

However, on reflection, it occurs to me that a relay will not solve my problem with a single power cable. Well, because how do I connect it? Relay coils in parallel and to the controller. And the power supply for the LEDs? Well, the same as the coils, because it's not possible otherwise. The only thing I will get is that instead of one relay contact in the circuit (ASW) there will be two in series.

Two power wires would be useful. Then one would handle the relays, the other the power supplies. But the impulse will still go to the ASW contacts

The asw and relay in the first lamp power the rest of the lamps because, as I understood it correctly, the installation is from lamp to lamp.

What is there to sage over?

From the catalogue data:
" Maximum switching power in AC1 category - 1250 VA "

What is the wattage of the power supply or the sum of their wattage ?

starob wrote:

What is there to be wise about?

From the catalogue data:
" Maximum switching power in AC1 category - 1250 VA "

What is the wattage of the power supply or the sum of their wattage ?

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The power supply is I don't know, the manufacturer doesn't specify. The light source draws about 10W, or 60W because there are to be six lamps.

chudy_b wrote:

that is 60W because there are to be six lamps

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That is, 20x less than the strength of the switch. Even taking into account the instantaneous "inrush" current of the power supply this should not hurt - connect directly.