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230V Timer Relay Recommendation for Automating Façade Lighting with 5 Lamps

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  • #1 16919066
    TAGBA
    Level 11  
    Can anyone advise me how to solve the automation of lighting up the façade? I have 5pcs lamps on the façade and I would like them to turn on and off at a specific time. Maybe a time relay? I have found some more timer relays for the arduino but they are all powered by 12V and I need 230V.
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  • #4 16919133
    Anonymous
    Anonymous  
  • #5 16919284
    TAGBA
    Level 11  
    I don't want to put it in the cupboard because there is only one power supply and I don't want to connect all the lamps to the timer. Ideally, I would like to fit it in the box or, if necessary, somehow squeeze it into the first external lamp.
  • #6 16919304
    wnoto
    Level 34  
    There is to be a specific time ... or as it gets darker. Because the latter option is smaller devices. But the active element must be outside :) .
  • #7 16919685
    TAGBA
    Level 11  
    If it gets dark, it can be done, as long as it is possible to set a time interval after detection. I don't want it to stay on all night. With a dimmer it would be even better not to have to reset the timer from time to time.
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  • #8 16919707
    pol102
    VIP Meritorious for electroda.pl
    The astronomical clock itself will make a correction for sunrise and sunset.... only I haven't seen an after-dash one yet.
  • #9 16919742
    TAGBA
    Level 11  
    And will you find something from astronomical at a reasonable price, because for 5 lamps, it's a bit expensive from what I found?
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  • #11 16920439
    wnoto
    Level 34  
    TAGBA wrote:
    I don't want it to stay lit all night.
    How much power are these lamps ?
  • #12 16920493
    marek216
    Level 43  
    I would use motion detectors with a light sensor.
  • #13 16920511
    elpapiotr
    Electrician specialist
    How about something like this ? :D .

    230V Timer Relay Recommendation for Automating Façade Lighting with 5 Lamps
  • #14 16920561
    wnoto
    Level 34  
    How much does this miracle cost .... and how much can it fit in?
  • #15 16920862
    TAGBA
    Level 11  
    The power of the 5 lamps will not exceed 50W. I was also thinking about such a mini detector which I could build in one of the lamps, except that the maximum range is 6m and the elevation is 20m. And converting each of the lamps is not an option.

    Such a mechanical timer can be drawn from a timer plugged into a socket :D .
  • #16 16921961
    wnoto
    Level 34  
    And how long after switching on should they remain lit?
  • #17 16923576
    TAGBA
    Level 11  
    Most likely from darkness until max. 22.00, i.e. sporadically in summer and more in winter.
  • #18 16924541
    bhtom
    Level 39  
    Welcome,

    You can use a such Elmes controller. Plus a programmable clock (installed e.g. in the switchboard) short-circuiting the remote control buttons or controlling a miniature MTX or MTX2 transmitter.
    Everything is doable.

    Regards.

Topic summary

The discussion addresses automating façade lighting with five lamps powered at 230V, focusing on time-controlled switching. The original poster seeks a timer relay compatible with 230V supply rather than common 12V Arduino modules. Suggested solutions include dedicated 230V timer relays such as the Zamel ZCM11 and digital electronic timers suitable for mounting in switchboards or surface-mounted boxes. Considerations include installation constraints, preferring devices integrated into lamp enclosures or external boxes rather than centralized switchboards. Alternatives discussed involve astronomical clocks that adjust for sunrise and sunset times, with wireless modules for remote control, though cost concerns arise for small installations. Motion detectors combined with light sensors are proposed for presence-based control, but limited detection range and complexity of retrofitting all lamps are drawbacks. The lamps’ total power is under 50W, and the desired operation period is from dusk until approximately 22:00, varying seasonally. Mechanical plug-in timers are also mentioned as a simple option. An Elmes controller paired with a programmable clock and miniature transmitters (MTX or MTX2) is suggested for remote switching via short-circuiting control inputs. Overall, solutions balance between fixed-time relays, astronomical timers, sensor-based automation, and remote control modules, considering installation space, power requirements, and cost.
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