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Loading the settings from the ERGO6 remote control into NICE ERA P6 and Mode I - Procedure

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  • #1 19725434
    Jejuś
    Level 9  
    As per topic.
    Successor to the fallen Nice ERGO 6.
    Driven 6 roller shutters, including 2 roller shutters in a group and under the six as a whole.
    The faults diagnosed by the authorised service in ERGO6 were hanging buttons and unstable contact of contacts. (13 years old after all).

    1- Is it possible to load the NICE ERA P6 from the old ERGO6 assuming the previous settings have been retained.

    2- How to load the ERA P6 in "Mode I" if the manual refers to: "For details of each procedure, refer to the manual of the motor and control panel with which it is to be started". The manual, on the other hand, requires knowledge of the drive type, which will be possible once the shutter cover has been removed.

    I am asking for advice on how, what and where to press to get the roller shutters to start, if only all in the sixth group as before.
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  • #2 19728335
    kotbury
    Gantry automation specialist
    1. I think (based on the instructions and logic - but you can verify with a phone call to a "friend" i.e. Nice Polska) that it is not possible. Copying the start code is only possible between the Era P/W family of remote controls. In addition, the drive receivers must also work in this system. The remote control is not a part of the basic system, but is a part of the basic system of Nice, i.e. Flor.

    2. adding a remote control to an actuator can indeed vary depending on the type of actuator. So, however, you need to remove at least one housing for type recognition.

    In summary - if you verify with Nice that there is indeed no option to copy the remote control code from the remote control (rather 90% I am right) then:

    1. for ease of understanding - treat this remote as if it were 6 separate "virtual" remotes in one housing, with the "group" being - say - one of these remotes.

    2. you have 2 options :

    a) add a remote control to each drive purely manually - using the buttons on the drive (well, for this you have to remove the housing of each drive) - you operate each drive separately. For the standard Flor system receiver (of which the Era system is an extension):

    1. keep the button on the receiver (in your case, on the drive) pressed for a minimum of 3 seconds
    (until the LED lights up - I don't know if this is the case with you).
    2. when the LED on the receiver lights up, release the button
    (Note - the light is faint). 3.
    Press and hold any remote control button for a minimum of 3 seconds within 10 seconds.
    When the read-in has been performed correctly, the LED will light (flash) 3 times.
    If you wish to enrol other remote controls, now repeat steps 3 for further remote controls within 10 seconds. After this time, the receiver exits programming.

    In your case, you additionally have to select the Era group on the remote control - i.e. one of the 6 "virtual" remote controls (see Era instructions).
    But the above mentioned procedures are for a standard receiver, a roller shutter receiver may have a different procedure.

    (b) Remote option (but may not work with your drives - again depends on the capabilities of the drive receiver)
    1. press the new transmitter button for 8 seconds and release (having first selected the group)
    2. press the button of the old remote control 3 times for 1second intervals.
    Press the new transmitter's button once for 1 second.
    Note: If you wish to load additional remote control devices, repeat the above steps.

    You must perform the remote control within the reception range of all the drives in the group. And the old remote control must show at least some willingness to cooperate.

    Both of the above procedures will assign the remote controllers in mode 1, i.e. you add 1 button (say "up"), the rest (i.e. "stop" and "down") will "add" themselves.

    PS. You should have started a normal topic in my group and not send a bunch of messages on PW (on top of that without a normal link)
    PPS. And isn't it enough to replace the microswitches on the old remote control?
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  • #3 19729806
    Jejuś
    Level 9  
    Thank you for taking the time and speaking at length.

    I started by identifying the type of roller shutter in my paperwork, and in the absence of that, I removed the casing from the roller shutter.

    Only Made in Italy on the roller shutter, no markings, nameplates can be seen in either the top or bottom position of the roller shutter.

    No markings can be seen on the radio module either.

    Nor any buttons on the drive.

    https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipNmX4Rcry-5Pb0whGQBNhLcyXu6V7fc-3H6684F https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipMuHjwNzTRw9D13g2LYLheUInLM7MM_sF9BPS6i https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipM1OjvJh5z6HWASX1ycvGhWgmIjgshc1VrkHiUy
    https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipNLnltx2shbDxNViYKd1uiPwnhQmlfwVHOcWAav

    If the pictures open, they will help to identify the device.

    If the photos fester I can email them to you, Mess, Signal.

    The ERGO6 remote for the ceremony worked and lowered all the blinds irrevocably, making my day more interesting.

    In the hope that a skilled eye will identify the equipment, I remain in anticipation of further clues.

    PS There is a microphone hanging in the top right-hand corner of the form. Can it be used for anything?
  • #4 19730286
    kotbury
    Gantry automation specialist
    Forks unopenable. Drop zeta and paste on electrodé....
  • #5 19730393
    Jejuś
    Level 9  
    "Drop zeta and paste on électrodé....".

    I don't know what that means.
    Maybe MMS< my No. 600962788
    I will not use your number for any other purpose.
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  • #6 19732071
    kotbury
    Gantry automation specialist
    Not sure (I've had a sufficient points account for a while) but if you don't have permission to paste files you can buy in.

    I will send you an email on priv.

    Have you not tried to fix the remote?
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  • #7 19732116
    Jejuś
    Level 9  
    ERGO6 remote control old and decrepit according to the service, buttons hanging up, unstable contacts. Spraying with silicone did not remove the uisters.
    Since I bought an ERA P6 there is no point in going back to a corpse.
    I have sent pics by email.
    Sorry for the lack of skill in using the elektroda.pl system.
  • #8 19733120
    kotbury
    Gantry automation specialist
    Looks like Nice drives of the Neo family. Operating instructions for drives with built-in radio here: http://ftp.nice.pl/nice/instrukcje/rolety/NEOPLUS%20M,%20L%20wyd.00.pdf , the remote controls are only added by a combination of powering on/off the drive and the remote control buttons.
    But I can't say for sure that these are the ones and whether adding remote controls - a different roller shutter drum - will work. Maybe try to paste the photos into the topic - there are roller shutter specialists there - maybe they will write more.
    As for pictures:
    When writing a post, you press "add picture", a pop-up window appears asking you to indicate a picture file , you indicate from your disk, press add, in the post in the place of the cursor a link appears, which when you approve the post will turn into a picture, the pop-up window turns off. If not enough points - I tossed some in.

Topic summary

The discussion revolves around the possibility of transferring settings from the Nice ERGO6 remote control to the NICE ERA P6 for controlling roller shutters. The user inquires if the settings can be retained and how to operate the ERA P6 in "Mode I." Responses indicate that copying settings from the ERGO6 to the ERA P6 is likely not feasible, as the remote controls belong to different families. Users suggest treating the remote as multiple virtual remotes and manually adding each drive. The identification of the roller shutter type is necessary for proper setup, and users share experiences with the ERGO6's malfunctioning buttons and unstable contacts. Additional resources and instructions for the Neo family of drives are provided, along with guidance on sharing images for better identification of the devices.
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