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Zigbee Tuya - what gateway/central for light control, Somfy gates, temperature sensor?

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  • #1 20342895
    krzys1985
    Level 9  
    Part, I'm looking and reading various forums and I already have a definite confusion in my head, I want to build a small simple smart home system, light control, garage and entrance gate (somfy) some temperature sensor and that's it. I have added to the conclusion that I will head into zigbee tuya, what do you guys think? What gateway should I buy to be as compatible as possible? Something like this could be?

    https://allegro.pl/oferta/centralka-bramka-zigbee-wifi-tuya-smart-life-9054486387
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  • #2 20343137
    freebsd
    Level 42  
    Do you want to connect the gateway to the router via an Ethernet cable or via Wi-Fi?
  • #3 20343474
    krzys1985
    Level 9  
    It doesn't matter to me, the gateway will be next to the router anyway, so it will probably be wired, I'm just looking for a proven device because there is a lot on the market and you don't know what to buy.
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  • #4 20343497
    freebsd
    Level 42  
    As for a tried and tested version, how I use one that looks like the one in the Allegro auction number "11544179239".
    Zigbee Tuya - what gateway/central for light control, Somfy gates, temperature sensor? .

    I also bought on Allegro, but I see that the seller is now offering a different model - auction number "12140699340"
  • #5 20344652
    freebsd
    Level 42  
    krzys1985 wrote:
    It doesn't matter to me, the gateway will be next to the router anyway so probably over cable
    .
    I can't remember exactly, but a gateway with Wi-Fi has reduced some resources and maybe fewer devices it can handle, or fewer scenarios. If you can it's better to buy a gateway with an Ethernet port.
  • #6 20505078
    siudkowski
    Level 13  
    Not so old yet, I'll dig it out. ;) And how, did a fellow author finally buy one of these gates?

    I ask because I have also started my adventure with a simple home automation system. I've been playing around with WiFi bulbs via TUYA for a few months now and it was finally time for ZigBee and some kind of gateway though. :D Well, and above all, the extension modules. A gateway necessarily on cable, I have my eye on two, one of which looks like the one mentioned above.

    1. Control panel RTX ZigBee ZIG-Z1: https://allegro.pl/oferta/centralka-bramka-zigbee-3-0-tuya-smart-life-lan-11264410670
    Zigbee Tuya - what gateway/central for light control, Somfy gates, temperature sensor? .

    2. Control panel ID3 SNTZ010: https://allegro.pl/oferta/centrala-sterujaca-bramka-zigbee-3-0-ethernet-tuya-13323089433
    Zigbee Tuya - what gateway/central for light control, Somfy gates, temperature sensor? .

    Anyone can comment on this equipment? No difference at all, or is there a difference though?
  • #8 20523732
    freebsd
    Level 42  
    @siudkowski I use such a gateway all the time as the photo I inserted above. I don't know of any others.
  • #9 20525079
    dominik_fil
    Level 17  
    What do you say about gateways from BT? Is it worth it?
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  • #10 20525555
    freebsd
    Level 42  
    Multi-mode gateways are supported by Tuya. Just can you buy Bluetooth sensors for the Tuya smart home?
    I have Xaomi cameras that can work as a Bluetooth gateway, but I still have all my devices connected via Wi-Fi. Equally, everything I have from Amazon only uses Wi-Fi.
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  • #12 20525876
    kkknc
    Level 43  
    I tried plugging in regular devices on BT and it didn't work.
  • #13 20525943
    siudkowski
    Level 13  
    It doesn't work like that unfortunately. I too played around with these multi and Bluetooth for a while, but this is a completely different tale. A communication standard is just a communication standard, it doesn't mean any compatibility with management systems. And even if it turns out that something works with something, the stability and sometimes also the integrations are different. For me it is a waste of time, it is better to decide on a specific environment, designed specifically for home automation and select the hardware, then you can play around. For Bluetooth you can possibly think about BLE.

    In addition, Bluetooth has a much shorter range, even in a small flat with more solid walls it can make communication impossible. With WiFi you can put additional access points, for BLE I know that there is also such a thing, but it misses the point in my opinion. This is why I opted for Zigbee.

    And coming back to my question and the author's - so no one had experience with these gateways what I threw in? There is a large selection of various TUYA relays and terminal devices in PL, but if I am looking for a gateway and still with an Ethernet socket, it is basically only these 3 models. In this case, it remains to test it yourself. ;) .

    Greetings.
  • #14 20614704
    lukawica
    Level 4  
    I have a goal: Zigbee Tuya - what gateway/central for light control, Somfy gates, temperature sensor? .

    Unfortunately I have a problem with setting the PIR as an alarm (Smart Protect).
    Zigbee Tuya - what gateway/central for light control, Somfy gates, temperature sensor? .
    Only a few devices are visible (no PIR detectors for example) - I have almost all (except one) devices on Tuya zigbee.
    I can build an alarm using Scenes, but due to the complexity it doesn't work as I would like (e.g. it doesn't work without internet access).
    I am wondering if the gateway is at fault.
    Does anyone have experience of setting up an alarm (PIR detector)?
    What kind of gateway does it use?
    Does it work without internet?
    I have the gateway, siren and zigbee repeaters hooked up to the UPS, so I'm keen for this to work without internet.
  • #15 20622942
    lukawica
    Level 4  
    I bought a different gateway.... But it is the same.
    I managed to program an alarm that works without internet.... But I cannot program the remote control:
    Zigbee Tuya - what gateway/central for light control, Somfy gates, temperature sensor? .
    So that I can arm and disarm the alarm with it without internet access (with internet it works).
    I am running out of ideas.
  • #16 21284483
    FastProject
    Level 28  
    >>20622942 Have you solved this alarm activation problem without internet? Is it possible or is it a limitation of the Tuya system?
  • #17 21286400
    lukawica
    Level 4  
    >>21284483 >>21284483 .
    I bought a Tuya alarm on 433MHz, then made a "gateway": Tuya Zigbee voltage free relay>contactor on 433MHz.
    That is, the Zigbee PIR detects movement, resulting in the relay 'opening' the reed switch (connected by wires) and the control panel triggers the alarm.
    The Zigbee remote works with the 433MHz control panel (successfully programmed).
  • #18 21294751
    mobil6000
    Level 15  
    Hi all , how about you with the range of zigbe gates ?
    I need a gate that will have a range from one building to another distant about 20 meters , that is , the obstacles are two concrete walls . On sale there are gates with antennas more expensive and cheaper maybe you can help which is the best

Topic summary

✨ The discussion focuses on selecting a compatible Zigbee Tuya gateway for a simple smart home system including light control, Somfy gates, and temperature sensors. Ethernet-connected gateways are preferred over Wi-Fi for better device handling and stability. Several gateway models available on Allegro are mentioned, including RTX ZigBee ZIG-Z1, ID3 SNTZ010, and Tuya Smart Life SNTZ015, with users seeking differences and reliability among them. Bluetooth gateways and sensors are generally discouraged due to limited compatibility, shorter range, and integration issues compared to Zigbee. Users report challenges configuring PIR sensors as alarms within Tuya Zigbee systems, particularly achieving offline operation without internet access. A workaround involving a Tuya 433MHz alarm system integrated via a Zigbee relay and contactor is described to enable remote control and alarm triggering without internet. Range concerns for Zigbee gateways through concrete walls over 20 meters are also raised, with inquiries about antenna quality and performance differences between models.

FAQ

TL;DR: Typical indoor Zigbee range is 10–20 m per hop; "Add routers to extend coverage." This FAQ helps Tuya Smart Life users pick a Zigbee 3.0 Ethernet hub, plan offline alarms, and solve 20 m, two-wall range issues. [“Understanding Zigbee Range”]

Why it matters: You’ll avoid dead zones, cloud lock‑in, and compatibility traps while building a small, reliable smart home.

Quick Facts

  • Pick an Ethernet Zigbee 3.0 Tuya hub; users report Wi‑Fi hubs have reduced resources and scenarios. [Elektroda, freebsd, post #20344652]
  • Typical indoor Zigbee coverage is 10–20 m per hop; dense concrete walls can require extra routers. [“Understanding Zigbee Range”]
  • Zigbee networks scale up to 65,000 devices per network (theoretical protocol limit). [“Zigbee Network Fundamentals”]
  • Generic Bluetooth sensors (e.g., Xiaomi) won’t pair to Tuya Zigbee/multimode hubs; use Tuya BLE if needed. [Elektroda, siudkowski, post #20525943]
  • Offline alarm is possible, but arming via a Zigbee remote may fail; a 433 MHz panel + Zigbee relay workaround helps. [Elektroda, lukawica, post #20622942]

Which Tuya Zigbee gateway should I buy for lights, a Somfy gate, and temperature sensors?

Choose a Tuya Zigbee 3.0 hub with Ethernet. It offers steadier resources and scenarios than Wi‑Fi. For gates or alarms, use a voltage‑free (dry‑contact) Zigbee relay to simulate a button input if the controller supports it. Prioritize Smart Life compatibility and local scene support for resilience during outages. Place the hub near your router for stable LAN and minimal interference. “If you can it’s better to buy a gateway with an Ethernet port.” [Elektroda, freebsd, post #20344652]

Are Ethernet Zigbee gateways better than Wi‑Fi for Tuya?

Yes. A community report notes Wi‑Fi versions have reduced resources and possibly fewer device limits or scenarios. Ethernet keeps the hub on a stable LAN, improving reliability for automations and pairing. If the hub sits next to the router, pick Ethernet. This reduces radio contention and avoids Wi‑Fi dropouts during heavy traffic or AP reboots. It is a low‑cost reliability upgrade for critical controls like lighting or gates. [Elektroda, freebsd, post #20344652]

Which Ethernet Tuya Zigbee hubs are commonly referenced in PL shops?

Users frequently point to three Ethernet options: RTX ZigBee ZIG‑Z1, ID3 SNTZ010, and Tuya SNTZ015. All target Smart Life users and provide Zigbee 3.0 support. Functionally, they are similar for basic lighting and sensor use. Focus on firmware updates, local scene handling, and antenna design. If features are equivalent, buy based on availability, warranty, and seller support. [Elektroda, siudkowski, post #20523528]

Will Bluetooth devices connect to a Tuya Zigbee or multi‑mode hub?

No. Zigbee and Bluetooth are different stacks. Multi‑mode Tuya hubs can bridge Tuya BLE sensors, but generic BT devices often will not pair. One user concluded mixing standards this way wastes time and reduces stability. They also noted Bluetooth’s shorter range behind solid walls, steering them to Zigbee for home automation. “A communication standard is just a communication standard.” [Elektroda, siudkowski, post #20525943]

My Xiaomi Mi 2 Bluetooth thermometer won’t add to a Tuya gateway. Why?

A user tried adding regular Bluetooth devices and it did not work. Multi‑mode support does not imply cross‑ecosystem compatibility. Tuya hubs typically expect Tuya‑branded BLE profiles. If you need Xiaomi BLE, use a Xiaomi gateway or a compatible bridge. For Tuya, stick to Tuya BLE sensors. Mixing ecosystems often breaks pairing and automations. [Elektroda, kkknc, post #20525876]

Can I run a Tuya alarm locally without internet?

Yes, with caveats. A user programmed an alarm that works offline, but could not arm or disarm it via a Zigbee remote without internet. Their workaround used a Tuya Zigbee voltage‑free relay to drive a 433 MHz alarm panel input. That restored offline control and remote programming. Keep the hub, siren, and repeaters on UPS for resilience. [Elektroda, lukawica, post #20622942]

How do I arm/disarm a Tuya alarm offline if the Zigbee remote fails?

Use this bridge method:
  1. Add a Tuya Zigbee voltage‑free relay and wire it to a 433 MHz alarm panel’s input.
  2. Pair your Zigbee PIR to trigger the relay, which trips the panel.
  3. Program the Zigbee remote to the 433 MHz panel for arm/disarm. This kept arming/disarming fully offline for one user. [Elektroda, lukawica, post #20622942]

How far will Zigbee reach across 20 m and two concrete walls?

Plan for 10–20 m per hop indoors and add at least one Zigbee router mid‑path. Concrete heavily attenuates 2.4 GHz, so place powered routers (plugs, switches) to create a clear mesh. Shorten device‑to‑router distances to 10–15 m where walls are dense. Antennas help, but placement and routing matter more. “Add routers to extend coverage.” [“Understanding Zigbee Range”]

Do external antennas on hubs significantly improve Zigbee range?

They can help in marginal situations, but they are not a silver bullet. Mesh density and router placement drive reliability more than a single stronger antenna. For two concrete walls, add one or two mains‑powered Zigbee routers midway. Optimize height and avoid metal enclosures. Re‑pair edge devices after adding routers to rebuild routes. [“Understanding Zigbee Range”]

How many devices can a Zigbee network support?

Zigbee’s protocol supports up to 65,000 devices on one network. Consumer hubs impose lower practical limits, which vary by vendor and firmware. Keep a healthy mesh by adding routers as your device count rises. Group automations and avoid long chains of hops to reduce latency. For large installs, segment by floor or role. [“Zigbee Network Fundamentals”]

What’s a proven Tuya Zigbee gateway users actually run?

One user runs a Tuya Zigbee Ethernet gateway matching an Allegro listing they referenced. The seller later offered a different model, but the earlier hardware remained stable in their setup. When in doubt, choose Ethernet and Zigbee 3.0, then test with a few devices before scaling. [Elektroda, freebsd, post #20343497]

Are Tuya multi‑mode (Zigbee + Bluetooth) gateways worth it?

They work, but only if you own Tuya BLE devices to justify Bluetooth bridging. A user noted multi‑mode support exists, yet their ecosystem ended up Wi‑Fi‑only. If your sensors and controls are Zigbee and Wi‑Fi, a pure Zigbee 3.0 Ethernet hub is simpler. Buy BLE only when you need Tuya BLE sensors. [Elektroda, freebsd, post #20525555]

Any best practices for power and internet outages with Tuya Zigbee?

Put the Zigbee hub, siren, and Zigbee repeaters on a UPS. This preserves the mesh and alarm during power cuts. Design automations to run locally where possible. One user confirmed offline alarm logic after rework, but remote arming needed a workaround. Document fallback controls and test with the internet disconnected. [Elektroda, lukawica, post #20614704]
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