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Portable hot air WEP 8858, the so-called plastic welder - motherboard tests and temperature measurem

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  • Close-up of WEP 8858 control panel set to 400 °C
    Here I will present the WEP 8858 portable hot air, also often advertised as a 'plastic welder' or as a '100-650W digital soldering station'. I will check how it handles the soldering of components from the motherboard and then try to measure its power consumption and the temperature reached and show this in the form of accessible graphs. I will do the tests for temperatures of 100 °C, 350 °C and 450 °C.

    The WEP 8858 can be imported from China for even less than 100 PLN. In our country it will be a bit more expensive, I have even seen prices double.

    Set contents
    My copy is marked 8858-I - Portable SMD Rework Station. The information on the packaging does not suggest a 'plastic welder', but straightforward work in electronics with SMD components.
    Cardboard box with illustration of WEP 8858-I portable SMD rework station
    The unit is quite well protected for transport. In addition to the hot air itself, we get three nozzles - a 12mm x 12mm square one and 9mm and 7mm round ones. A stand is also included.
    WEP 8858-I hot air station packed in foam casing with accessories Hot air nozzles for WEP 8858 in a plastic bag held in a hand Plastic bracket for hot air station held in hand above packed device with nozzle
    Nameplate:
    Nameplate on WEP 8858 I soldering station showing specifications and manufacturer details
    The Polish-language manual mentions, among other things, calibration and replacement of the heating element. It is good that this has been provided for. I do not recommend buying disposable products.
    Polish-language manual for WEP 8858 hot air station with labeled diagram.
    One line from the specification, however, puzzles me. Does this station really have an "LED Nixie" display? Unless they mean "Nixie styled LED display" here.




    Tests with motherboard
    The whole thing is simple and convenient to use. The blower is adjusted with a potentiometer, the temperature with buttons. When you have finished working, you do not disconnect the whole thing from the mains, because the station first still cools itself by blowing air without heating, as per the instructions.
    Close-up of hot air WEP 8858 handle with vented end and power cable WEP 8858 device display showing 400 °C temperature
    You can confidently test. Just on what? I have chosen a large PCB:
    Large green motherboard with many ICs and SMD components on a wooden table
    The more copper, the more massive the board, and the more layers, the harder it is to solder the component.
    A motherboard from a computer would probably be even better, but I didn't have any on hand.

    First test - 300 °C, full blast.



    I gave up after 5 minutes. It was not possible to solder the component.
    I increased the temperature to 450 °C:



    The component came off after 2 and a half minutes. No revelation.

    Second test - 400 °C:



    Here I helped myself with flux, an element in an enclosure such as a flash memory chip came off in two minutes. This means that, if anything, it would be possible to upload firmware in case the clip from the CH341 fails. The minimum functionality is.

    Third test - 400 °C:
    Next something more difficult, a coil from one of the inverters. Such a component is quite large and sits on a larger copper spout, which acts as a heat sink and absorbs heat.



    I heated for three and a half minutes, but the element was able to be removed.

    Fourth test - 450 °C:



    This time the coil came off in one and a half minutes.

    Fifth test - 450 °C:
    A tiny component in a QFN housing.



    The situation is difficult because the component is also soldered underneath. It was successful in one and a half minutes.

    Sixth test - 450 °C:
    A slightly larger component. Also with a mass underneath. This can be seen when it is pulled off.



    Just under two minutes.

    Seventh test - 450 °C - no nozzle, larger QFN component.



    Two minutes.

    Conclusions a little further on.

    Temperature measurements
    I made the measurements based on the configuration from this topic:
    OpenBeken configuration for hot air testing - MAX6675, temperature and power logging
    Measurements were taken at full blow and at 50% blow.
    Here I have prepared two sets of measurements:
    - measurements only for WEP 8858, at three temperatures, I also checked the different levels of blowing
    - a summary comparison of all the stations I have had so far

    Let's start with the measurements of the 8858 only.
    Temperature and power graph for WEP 8858 station under various settings
    Interactive version: https://openshwprojects.github.io/hotairwep8858.html
    The first thing that strikes me is the small difference between heating at 350 °C and 450 °C. The curves intersect there, but it's all within error. It seems that the 450 °C setting only approached 300 °C by a 'throw on the belt'. A lower setting, 350 °C, on the probe gave a temperature only about 25 °C lower.
    Someone might think that the temperature setting doesn't work at all - but no, you can see from the results with the 100 °C setting that it has some effect after all. At 100 °C, the results are actually very accurate. The full-blow setting achieved some 98 °C, the half-blow setting 90-95 °C, also within the margin of error.
    The differences between full blow and half blow are negligible in my sensor tests.
    It can be equally interesting to analyse the power consumed. Those promised 700 W are only there at the beginning. Even when heating to 450 °C (which, by the way, is remarkably similar to the 350 °C setting), the power drawn most of the time is around 120 W.

    You can now also take a look at the summary graph. It is separately for the two temperatures:
    https://openshwprojects.github.io/hotair/version9/450c.html
    https://openshwprojects.github.io/hotair/version9/350c.html
    Comparison graph of temperature and power for hot air stations at 350°C, full airflow
    Not a revelation, the performance of this station is similar to the weaker ones I tested, the JCD 8908, SP-1011DLR, etc. Even the budget and classic 858 trumps it.

    Out of curiosity I included three interesting stations on it - the Sugon 8630 PRO (high end, very expensive), the 858 (cheap but good hot air) and the eponymous WEP 8858. You can see by the power alone that there is definitely a heating difference, as it is the power here that translates into heat:
    Comparison chart of temperature and power of hot air stations at 450 °C
    Everyone can also draw their own conclusions from the graphs, so I provide interactive versions for reference:
    https://openshwprojects.github.io/hotair/version9/450c.html
    https://openshwprojects.github.io/hotair/version9/350c.html
    https://openshwprojects.github.io/hotairwep8858.html

    Summary
    Indeed, this device is able to perform basic operations on the motherboard, you can, for example, solder a flash memory bone or a punctured transistor there, but it is a bit more difficult and slower than the other stations tested. For products from the higher end, such as the Sugon or Quick tested earlier, there is no point in comparing the 8858, but the budget hot air 858, for example, also trumps the product in this topic.
    At 100 °C I have no complaints, my thermocouple then recorded 95 °C so literally within the margin of error, perfect, only surprised by the 450 °C setting which doesn't seem much warmer than 350 °C at all.
    I also tried to catch the differences between the different blower settings, but my method was unlikely to be precise enough to make anything noticeable.
    Do you think the seller is right to offer this gadget as a tool for SMD work, or should he stay with "plastic welder" after all?

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    p.kaczmarek2 wrote:
    I'm puzzled by the 450 °C setting, which doesn't seem much warmer than 350 °C at all.

    And what does it look like at lower blowing?
    p.kaczmarek2 wrote:
    Do you think the seller is right to offer this gadget as a tool for working with SMD, or should he stay with "plastic welder" after all?

    This is where you would have to try plastic welding.... ;) If it works - then yes. Surely, however, you would need to have some experience with welding in order not to make unwarranted judgements, and that may (?) be a problem.
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    It all rather depends on the specific situation, both the station and the tile, but in general I treat the blower as a heat carrier - a smaller blower will heat spot more strongly, but also slower, especially as there is a large copper spout. For this reason, I tend to try to work on larger blowdown settings, as I don't use the heater and I'm concerned about time. It's most noticeable to me when I'm running some circuit that requires multiple flash memory programming, which often can't be done on the chip, so every attempt is to first solder the SOIC8 off the board, then solder it onto the CH341, and after programming it again, solder it off the CH341 and back onto the board.... i think I need to buy this socket for the SOIC eventually. For this reason, I'm very happy with the Sugon station I'm using, because with it I don't have the problem of having to go down significantly with the blower to be able to solder something. The other station that has been able to cope with these conditions is the budget 858.

    Unskillful spot heating, especially at high temperatures and without flux is not good either, it is easy to "bulge" the laminate. After buying the station, it is best to test everything on a junk board, check the individual settings, how the station behaves in the given combination of blowing and temperature.

    Old equipment that is worthless even though it still works is also a good testing ground. For example, old DVB-T receivers that no longer receive anything meaningful. You can practise soldering and re-soldering e.g. the processor in TQFP on them and after each operation check whether the equipment still works (i.e. gives a picture).

    The other thing is that I've had a bit of a bad experience with the very low blow-up settings on the cheapest stations. The few times I've tested on them, the heater inside was even 'burning', and I was afraid that this would shorten its life considerably, because there wasn't enough air to take the heat away from it.

    I didn't deal with the plastic myself at all, so I won't judge it in this context anymore. The only thing I do know is that the temperature on my thermocouple reproduces the setting from the display very well and is stable.

    And what is your opinion, have you used the WEP 8858 or similar equipment, can you share your impressions about them?
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