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GPS locator for scooters from Lidl

A.J.Electronics  35 16770 Cool? (+33)
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TL;DR

  • Built a GPS locator-based security upgrade for a Lidl electric scooter with seat and basket, adding remote on/off control and a phone-charging outlet.
  • The locator’s remote fuel cut-off drives an electronic kill switch through T2/T3 transistors, while an LM2596 step-down converter supplies 12 V and powers the charger.
  • The locator accepts 9–90 V, the scooter battery is 36 V, charged is about 42 V, and the auxiliary charger is rated at 1 A.
  • Cutting fuel makes the scooter show error E001; the app also displays battery voltage, but the wiring ended up as a messy "spider" hidden under black silicone.
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Hello
I would like to share with you a project that I did some time ago.
In July, I bought an eclectic scooter in Lidl with a seat and a basket.

I thought that it would be useful to do some security and ordered a GPS locator from the Majfrends.

By the way, I thought about a phone charger, the more the phone holder is bought.


This topic inspired me https://www.elektroda.pl/rtvforum/topic3782282.html and I decided to do a security and in this "some kind" on / off switch.
So to the point.
The GPS locator I bought works in the voltage range of 9-90 V, so there is no problem with direct connection to the scooter battery (36 V, charged is about 42 V).
It turned out to be a nice surprise that the voltage value is displayed in the tracking application, which makes it possible to control the state of charge through the application.
The locator has the ability to remotely cut off the fuel (in the car), which I decided to use as an "kind" on / off switch. Here a small problem arose as it is not a simple mechanical but an electronic relay. It works in the voltage range (9-15 V). Using the Step down converter, I get a voltage of 12 V to power this circuit and the car charger. I bought a weak one-amp charger (it's hard to buy a weak one now, but I managed) so as not to drain the scooter battery too much (7.5 Ah). I added the charger for an emergency if the phone fell.
The circuit diagram I used is straightforward, no frills:


First, I had to determine which of the wires gives info from the display-shifters assembly to the controller about turning on the scooter (by holding the M button for a long time).
Traditionally sticking pins and using a gauge. In my case it was a blue wire. And this is the only wire that I had to cut to implement the project, I did all the rest of the connections with the scooter wires using quick couplers.

I will now discuss the connections and how it works.
I set the step down circuit based on the LM2596 with adjustable output voltage to 12 V. Foot 5, the chip (i.e. start / stop pin) was desoldered from the board, it was connected to ground, and connected to the external circuit, which shortened it to ground using a transistor T1. The transistor T1 is switched on with the voltage of 36 V through the resistor R3 in series with the diode D1 (no diode in the attached diagram - sorry). The resistance divider R1, R2 supplies a dozen or so volts to the pin 5, the chip in the off state of the scooter and thus the step down converter does not work. This voltage is supplied from the display-lever assembly when the scooter is turned on. So that part of the blue cut wire that I mentioned earlier, from the side of the display. The voltage of 12 V from the converter is fed to the car charger (from which I removed the LED diode for savings, and so it is hidden in the battery and controller container together with the rest of the system), and to the fuel cut-off circuit in the locator. When we give the command "Cut Off Fuel" from the application, the voltage of 12 V is not applied to the base of the transistor T3 through the resistor R5 and thus the transistor T2 will not be controlled. The signal from the display will not go to the controller and the scooter will not work (it shows error E001). When we give the command "Restore Fuel" from the application, 12 V will come out of the locatoron R5 and T3 will turn on, and it will turn on T2 and the 36V signal will reach the controller when we turn on the scooter, and it will start to spin as needed. In addition, I connected the ACC input in the locator with the 36 V output from the display via the D2 diode (both D1 and D2 diodes are 1N4007), this way I also have information in the application about turning on the scooter.
These few additional elements (T1, 2, 3 R1,2,3,4 =, 5 D1,2) were installed and connected on a small mounting plate. Unfortunately, it is such a "better" spider. I didn't have time to make a decent PCB.


I have hidden everything in the scooter container for the battery and the controller. I re-secured with black silicone. Outside, apart from the phone charging cable, nothing sticks out.

PS Sorry for the chaotically drawn diagram and some mumbling here.
Greetings, if anyone has any questions or comments, I will be very happy to answer and listen.

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Comments

gulson 02 Sep 2021 18:12

Nice design, private scooters arriving, a series of articles on scooter electronics and batteries could do with it. In the meantime, write to me for a gift :) [Read more]

szeryf3 03 Sep 2021 08:41

Nice design and an interesting idea. I suspect that not one of the scooter users will try to do something like that. [Read more]

pawel_mr 03 Sep 2021 09:23

One thing puzzles me. The description states that the locator, during normal operation, gives the voltage that starts the scooter, and if we give the command "fuel cut-off", then the locator does not come... [Read more]

atek000 03 Sep 2021 09:27

A thumbs up. I would just like to warn you against too much discharge of the battery. 2 years ago I installed a GPS locator on a scooter, in my case it was the iTrackSafe MT-1. It worked fine until after... [Read more]

Baskhaal 03 Sep 2021 09:59

Interestingly, such a 'scooter' with a saddle is not covered by any regulations, even after the last amendment to the code. They define electric scooters as devices without a seat and as personal... [Read more]

edz 03 Sep 2021 13:23

Yes, here is the definition of a scooter and a personal transport device - UTO, but ... is there such a miracle as an electric scooter + saddle = electric moped ??? Please let the law experts have... [Read more]

A.J.Electronics 03 Sep 2021 14:02

Unfortunately, it will roll, which is why I have an additional mechanical protection, a chain with a disc brake clasp. Even without turning it on, it goes on anyway. This is how it is constructed. I don't... [Read more]

austin007 03 Sep 2021 15:19

Please write something about the locator. What model is it, or 2G, what sim card and tariff. Like with tenderness. [Read more]

A.J.Electronics 03 Sep 2021 15:31

I didn't want it to look like an advertisement, but this is the product https://pl.aliexpress.com/item/4000842937287.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.27425c0fcsUg2N There is the MV730 model. It works... [Read more]

edz 03 Sep 2021 17:25

Art. 2. - [Legal definitions] - Road traffic law. Journal of Laws Journal of Laws 2021.450, i.e. | Effective act. Version: July 1, 2021 to: September 3, 2021 Art. 2. [Legal definitions] The terms used... [Read more]

A.J.Electronics 03 Sep 2021 18:38

And since 300 W [Read more]

M. S. 03 Sep 2021 20:43

Walk towards the slow moving vehicle. [Read more]

Citek 03 Sep 2021 23:06

You are sure that the locator works in the range of 9-90 V, because the description only mentions 6-40 V. I am asking because I am wondering whether to mount it to an electric bike that has a 48V batt... [Read more]

A.J.Electronics 04 Sep 2021 10:16

Yes, in the description it is 6-40 V, but in the specification (on the auction website) and on the sheet attached to the product it is 9-90 V. And how to believe the Chinese? You can also write an inquiry... [Read more]

Szyszkownik Kilkujadek 04 Sep 2021 10:40

I am surprised by the accuracy of the GPS. After all, the locator is hidden under the metal sheet and glides almost on the ground. :-D Pay attention to the validity of the card, because when the operator... [Read more]

11maly1 04 Sep 2021 12:07

Hello At first, I apologize for asking a slightly different question. An unpleasant situation happened to me, namely, I broke into the premises and a large amount of tobacco products was stolen. Reading... [Read more]

A.J.Electronics 04 Sep 2021 15:04

And yet it works. I will definitely keep an eye on. I have the receipt in the electronic version on my phone. There is a Scooter 0351450 1 * PLN 999 on the receipt. Polish user manual: EKS 77 folding... [Read more]

neo62 02 Oct 2021 01:15

I have been wondering about this locator for some time and my friend encouraged me :-D But I have a question, what do you need to set for it to work in the application? I fight him and he is in China... [Read more]

austin007 02 Oct 2021 11:18

I watched quite reliable material on this "scooter" classified as a different vehicle. Moving on public roads must be insured - civil liability. It seems the material was about a collision and a claim... [Read more]

FAQ

TL;DR: A 2 G MV730 tracker draws only 29 mA (≈4.8 Ah / month) and can remotely disable a 36 V Lidl EKS 77 scooter; “Nothing dangerous will happen, it will just coast” [Elektroda, A.J.Electronics, post #19593720] [Elektroda, atek000, post #19593430]

Why it matters: you gain theft-alert, battery-voltage read-out and an app-controlled kill-switch in one low-cost mod.

Quick Facts

• Claimed supply range: 9–90 V DC for MV730 tracker [Elektroda, A.J.Electronics, post #19594790] • Relay coil inside tracker switches 9–15 V DC [Elektroda, A.J.Electronics, post #19592533] • Stand-by draw: 29 mA (≈0.7 Wh/h) on similar MT-1 model [Elektroda, atek000, post #19593430] • Real-world top speed of Lidl EKS 77 under 61 kg rider: 24.9 km/h [Elektroda, A.J.Electronics, post #19593720] • MV730 price ≈ US$18 incl. relay & harness [“AliExpress MV730”]

Which GPS tracker fits a 36 V scooter without extra regulators?

MV730 accepts 36 V directly because its DC input range starts at 9 V and is spec’d up to 90 V [Elektroda, A.J.Electronics, post #19594790] Many cheaper 2 G modules stop at 40 V, so check the silk-screen or datasheet first.

Does the tracker really tolerate up to 90 V?

The printed leaflet and online specification list 9–90 V, while the product page headline shows 6–40 V. The author runs it on 42 V during charging without issues [Elektroda, A.J.Electronics, post #19594790] Always bench-test at your pack’s peak voltage before installation.

Will the scooter throw me over the bars if the tracker or relay fails?

No. If the relay opens the motor merely loses drive; the scooter coasts like you released the throttle [Elektroda, A.J.Electronics, post #19593720] Brakes and steering keep working. Failure therefore equals a gentle rollout, not an emergency stop.

What SIM card and data plan works best?

Any prepaid nano-SIM with 2 G or 3 G fallback suffices; the author uses T-Mobile PL data-only SIM and logs just "hundreds of kilobytes per month" [Elektroda, A.J.Electronics, post #19593825] Choose an operator with long credit validity to avoid seasonal disassembly.

GPS accuracy seems unlikely under a metal deck—does it work?

Yes. Even when mounted low under a steel cover the MV730 still reports street-level accuracy once outdoors. Indoors it reverts to GSM cell triangulation and can wander up to 900 m [Elektroda, A.J.Electronics, post #19593825]

How do I bring the tracker online when the app shows it in China?

Follow this 3-step reset:
  1. SMS “RESET#” to the device.
  2. Send APN credentials: “APN,apnname,user,pass#”.
  3. Set platform server: “SERVER,47.88.85.196,7700#”. After reboot the status should flip to Online within 60 s [Elektroda, neo62, post #19643516]

Can the blue display wire serve both ACC sensing and motor enable?

Yes. The 36 V "blue" line signals ignition. Feed it to ACC through a 1N4007 diode and to the step-down enable pin. Diodes isolate the two circuits [Elektroda, A.J.Electronics, post #19592533]

Is a seated electric scooter a moped under Polish law?

Polish road code defines a moped as any two-wheel vehicle with ≤4 kW and ≤45 km/h, regardless of pedals [Dz.U. 2021.450 art. 2 pkt 46]. Experts argue that adding a saddle reclassifies the 300 W EKS 77 as a moped, triggering insurance and registration obligations [Elektroda, edz, post #19593879]

Edge case: what if someone cuts the lock and pushes the scooter away?

With fuel-cut active the motor stays off, but wheels roll freely. Movement alarms still trigger and GPS reports live location, letting you track the thief in real time [Elektroda, A.J.Electronics, post #19593720]

Can I hide a tracker inside a cigarette pack for 24 h asset recovery?

Possible but bulky. You need a micro-tracker plus a 5 → 12 V boost module or a dedicated 12 V powerbank. Inductive charging adds coils that may not fit inside the pack [Elektroda, A.J.Electronics, post #19594947] Runtime under 24 h is feasible with a 1 Ah Li-ion cell.

What relay should I use if I skip the phone charger?

Choose a 36 V coil automotive relay and drive its ground through the tracker’s cut-off wire. Tests show tracker’s transistor sinks correctly at pack voltage; verify dropout current before final wiring [Elektroda, SunTechnology, post #19691496]
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